Author Topic: Help?  (Read 11181 times)

zaelie

Re: Help?
« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2009, 04:02:04 PM »
If you can unlock StB's EX stages you can probably 1cc Hard on most games.

I've unlocked EX on StB and can only 1cc hard on IN (all teams) and PCB (1 char) :(. I'm a hair away from EoSD and MoF though, i.e dying on final spells. Though taking my own advice and pinpointing problems in the runs would probably do it heh. Guess the skill is there tucked away.

And yes blind runs are awesome. First hard attempt on PCB I 1cc'd it. My first blind lunatic on MoF I got to Aya. I can't get there again lol.

Re: Help?
« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2009, 02:37:36 AM »
Can anybody help me 1cc Mountain of Faith on normal? (and no "try MarisaB")

I never know when to bomb, once again without being able to deathbomb I am screwed over a lot. I want to be able to get up to stage 4 without losing any lives, but I always always always make a dumb mistake. Nothing before stage 4 is really that hard, but I always have dumb mistakes... also, which Is the best type to play as? (for reimu) I always liked sealing type because it looks so cool, but I want to use the one that will help me the most.

I guess in the mean time I will do MarisaB just so I can play the extra stage... I want to eventually unlock it with all types anyway.

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Re: Help?
« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2009, 02:48:38 AM »
Mountain of Faith is full to the brim of places to get clipped by bullets... these 'stupid deaths' actually make up most of the times almost anyone dies in MoF, I think. :V

The best advice I can give for a MoF 1cc attempt is to go through some of the stages in practice, find out which parts you can consistently clear and which parts you can't (this includes silly clipdeaths), and then in the actual run bomb everything you're unconfident about. The "I've beaten this once or twice before... it'd be cool if I beat this card on my 1cc run" thought pattern can and will kill you, so try to stay away from it no matter how tempting it looks. It's always better to be safe and actually survive than to pull a few nice dodges and then die. MoF as a whole is very generous with power so you can afford to bomb quite a lot, which is why it's usually considered one of the easier games in the series.
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Re: Help?
« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2009, 03:22:58 AM »
Reimu A is the easiest to use though B is a good choice if you're comfortable with stages/bosses. Mari B too if you use the honour system and don't use the bug.

Try to powerbomb i.e bomb when lots of red enemies are on screen to reap back red items and negate the bombing penality, and also clear the screen of bullets. Remember 5 power = free bomb.

In stage 4 there's not much opportunity for that though.. so just bomb to live during the 2 "waterfall" segments which I think are the hardest. You'll likely get to 4 power again by Aya because those bats/crows/whatever at the end drop a fair few power items.

If you get down to 2 power I'd suggest dying instead of bombing. Getting locked at 1 power is a good way to game over  :(

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Re: Help?
« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2009, 03:54:50 AM »
If you get down to 2 power I'd suggest dying instead of bombing. Getting locked at 1 power is a good way to game over  :(

Regardless of what power you're at, you lose 3.20 power and drop 3.20 worth of power items that you can pick up again.  In other words, whether you're at 2.0 or 1.0 power (or 0.0 or 3.0, for that matter), you might as well keep bombing when you find it necessary, because in any case, you'll still end up back at the same amount of power after dying: going down to 0.0, and back up to 3.20 after you've grabbed all of the items.  The only difference is that letting yourself die at 2.0 power means that you die sooner.  The only reason you should ever suicide for power is if you're specifically trying to capture spell cards, but survival is your first priority.
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Re: Help?
« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2009, 12:20:36 PM »
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Reimu A is the easiest to use though B is a good choice if you're comfortable with stages/bosses. Mari B too if you use the honour system and don't use the bug.
ReimuA is easiest to use because it trivializes stages, but it also turns Aya, Sanae, and (most importantly) Kanako into drawn-out hatefests.  Six more seconds on Kanako's last card is not pleasant.

Because there's no use for piercing in MoF, the only thing that makes MarisaB superior to ReimuB is the bug.  I personally think the bug was intentionally left in there to make the shot type remotely useful...

ReimuB is your best choice.  If you can learn to use MarisaC, you can clean out the bosses pretty nicely.

Re: Help?
« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2009, 06:02:52 PM »
The "I've beaten this once or twice before... it'd be cool if I beat this card on my 1cc run" thought pattern can and will kill you

This is actually just good advice for any Touhou game.

My best advice for MoF is base your entire run around getting up to and through stage 4 with a lot of resources. Stage 5 is fairly simple (unless you're on Lunatic, obviously). Stage 6 can be bomb-spammed because of the amount of power you get. Bomb Kanako's third spellcard because it is complete bs on normal.
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Re: Help?
« Reply #37 on: September 08, 2009, 08:31:30 PM »
Seems like you've moved on to MoF for the moment, but if you get back to EoSD, perhaps my play through can give you an idea of how to scrape your way to a 1cc.  In the video linked you can go to 4:13 for Icicle Fall.  If it seems hard at first, just keep practicing!  I felt exactly the same way and thought I'd never be able to do that dodge reliably.  Over time it got easier and now it's a routine cap.  If you don't finish her off after the first wave of yellow shots, just repeat the dodge a second time.

My youtube profile also has a 1cc with marisaB (my first touhou 1cc ever) which is super sloppy and bomb intensive (and I finish the game with 0 lives, 0 bombs left ^^;;;  )... again, something to boost your confidence/give you a "strategy" for an ultra conservative 1cc.  Since I take the easy way out when possible and bomb so much, it should be executable without too much hardship ^^;

Re: Help?
« Reply #38 on: September 08, 2009, 09:05:19 PM »
Seems like you've moved on to MoF for the moment, but if you get back to EoSD, perhaps my play through can give you an idea of how to scrape your way to a 1cc.  In the video linked you can go to 4:13 for Icicle Fall.  If it seems hard at first, just keep practicing!  I felt exactly the same way and thought I'd never be able to do that dodge reliably.  Over time it got easier and now it's a routine cap.  If you don't finish her off after the first wave of yellow shots, just repeat the dodge a second time.

My youtube profile also has a 1cc with marisaB (my first touhou 1cc ever) which is super sloppy and bomb intensive (and I finish the game with 0 lives, 0 bombs left ^^;;;  )... again, something to boost your confidence/give you a "strategy" for an ultra conservative 1cc.  Since I take the easy way out when possible and bomb so much, it should be executable without too much hardship ^^;

sorry, but your a little late...  ;D It was just a few days ago. I used MarisaB and also used many bombs... I still bombed Icicle Fall but it worked out anyway. I think I ended with one life to spair.

I really have no chance at Mountain of Faith, I haven't even got to stage 6. (Except with MarisaB, but yeah...) I never know when to bomb, and I get killed by so many dumb things. I'll do it eventually...

Thanks anyway though.