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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #390 on: December 05, 2016, 03:09:06 AM »
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I hate yellow, but THANK YOU GOD. First shiny in gen 7 and Sun! I think this was part of the 4-5th chain overall (not total encounters but total encounters of a Jangmo-o to start chaining). I have no idea how many were called in the SOS, I don't think I was too far into it. I need to calm down, I'm shaking over here...



Btw, it's nature is Lonely  :( no hidden ability either, so its shit. But I'll take it  :derp: now to figure out a name for a male Hakamo-o...

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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #391 on: December 05, 2016, 03:51:42 AM »
Back in the plaza now, had to exit to put the Dubious Disc on Porygon2. Unless I just missed something and there was some way to do that without leaving lol.

Oh crap, sorry, I saw you disappear so I figured you didn't have Dubious Disc yet and I stopped paying attention. My bad. If you haven't found someone else to trade with by tomorrow I can help you then.
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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #392 on: December 05, 2016, 03:58:41 AM »
Oh crap, sorry, I saw you disappear so I figured you didn't have Dubious Disc yet and I stopped paying attention. My bad. If you haven't found someone else to trade with by tomorrow I can help you then.
Nah it's all good. I'll wait for you for Porygon-Z since we already agreed to it. I also spent the time to breed the mons you said you were looking for, so we can still do those too.
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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #393 on: December 05, 2016, 02:04:08 PM »
So I'm chaining SOS calls to try to get a Regenerator Mareanie, and I don't fully grasp the mechanics. The odds of a hidden ability go up as the chain increases, but do called Corsolas increase the odds of getting a hidden ability Mareanie or do count separate chains for separate species? And at what point in the chain, if ever, does hidden ability rate reach 100%?
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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #394 on: December 05, 2016, 04:22:35 PM »
So I'm chaining SOS calls to try to get a Regenerator Mareanie, and I don't fully grasp the mechanics. The odds of a hidden ability go up as the chain increases, but do called Corsolas increase the odds of getting a hidden ability Mareanie or do count separate chains for separate species? And at what point in the chain, if ever, does hidden ability rate reach 100%?
The Corsola do count, if my Gooey Goomy was anything to go by.
Anecdote says 5% chance, minimum chain of 10. This does not rise.

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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #395 on: December 05, 2016, 04:38:44 PM »
Oh wait really? There's no reason to go beyond 10? Am I reading that right? That's counter to a lot of the vague, incomplete guides I've been seeing. Fair enough, thanks.
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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #396 on: December 05, 2016, 04:53:02 PM »
No you MUST go beyond 10, then start checking if they have it or not... which is a pain.
i.e. start switching in and out with the trace porygon after the first 10 chain.

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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #397 on: December 05, 2016, 05:09:43 PM »
I... Think I follow you? But yeah, I dicked up on that front and pretty much have to abandon the chain. I brought a Gastro Acid user to check abilities since I seem to recall it revealing the ability in the past, but it totally doesn't now so I have no way to check ability. And I can't even get Mareanie to poison me to see if it has Merciless because it just wants to kill Corsola and is liable to break the chain if I let it do that. Where is Porygon found?

Edit: Wait, which enemy will Trace target? Is it random?
« Last Edit: December 05, 2016, 05:11:52 PM by commandercool »
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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #398 on: December 05, 2016, 05:39:00 PM »
I... Think I follow you? But yeah, I dicked up on that front and pretty much have to abandon the chain. I brought a Gastro Acid user to check abilities since I seem to recall it revealing the ability in the past, but it totally doesn't now so I have no way to check ability. And I can't even get Mareanie to poison me to see if it has Merciless because it just wants to kill Corsola and is liable to break the chain if I let it do that. Where is Porygon found?

Edit: Wait, which enemy will Trace target? Is it random?
Porygon is from aether house (where Acerola hangs out), may need to breed a few for the ability, yes it targets at random.
alternatives to Porygon are Role Play, Entertainment, Ability Swap and Worry Seed.

I think strat should be:
  • false swipe corsola to 1 HP
  • kill 10 corsola /Mareanie
  • kill orignal corsola
  • reduce new one to like 25% so Mareanies don't one shot it
  • each time Mareanie spawns swap in Porygon
  • pray and hope

I also note that this is a thing https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/5f5wc7/how_to_obtain_the_perfect_chaining_smeargle/

Also fish at that one spot on route 9 if you aren't already, better corsola rates.

edit:
At last Adamant, Oblivious, with needed egg moves Bounsweet is mine.... :V
Halfway decent IVs too.

Managed it!!!
Regenerator Mareanie is at last mine.

using comfrey to kill corsolas if they were in the red (floral healing to heal them when one spawned)
otherwise my normal false swiper
exeggcute for worry seed to check abilities
and a poison type to clear toxic spikes.

Also many healing items for poison cures and to restore PP on vital moves (worry seed and floral heal).
About 15 Mareanies into the chain.

Many (hundreds??) Corsola's died to bring me this pokemon.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2016, 11:02:54 PM by Think Komachi with a Rifle »

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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #399 on: December 05, 2016, 11:05:25 PM »
I... Think I follow you? But yeah, I dicked up on that front and pretty much have to abandon the chain. I brought a Gastro Acid user to check abilities since I seem to recall it revealing the ability in the past, but it totally doesn't now so I have no way to check ability. And I can't even get Mareanie to poison me to see if it has Merciless because it just wants to kill Corsola and is liable to break the chain if I let it do that. Where is Porygon found?

Edit: Wait, which enemy will Trace target? Is it random?

Instead of Gastro Acid, you could use a pokemon with the move Skill Swap. Sylveon is an easy one to get, and it learns Skill Swap at level 25.

This is a bit unrelated, but I've had an infestation of hidden-ability eevees in my box. I was surprised to find out they make such good trade fodder; it's pretty easy to breed a bunch of Eevees in these games without any trading. Not that I'm complaining, mind you :V

Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #400 on: December 05, 2016, 11:20:20 PM »
Instead of Gastro Acid, you could use a pokemon with the move Skill Swap. Sylveon is an easy one to get, and it learns Skill Swap at level 25.

This is a bit unrelated, but I've had an infestation of hidden-ability eevees in my box. I was surprised to find out they make such good trade fodder; it's pretty easy to breed a bunch of Eevees in these games without any trading. Not that I'm complaining, mind you :V
Skill swap has the same problem as worry seed did, limited PP.
Hidden abilities mostly aren't too bad outside of SoS only pokemon, like Mareanie, Sableye or anything weather only.
main pain here is that Mareanie likes to toxic the Corsola, if that kills it bye bye chain.

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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #401 on: December 05, 2016, 11:28:03 PM »
Yeah I don't really care about PP, I have like a hundred Leppa Berries. Probably gonna use a Worry Seed user.
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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #402 on: December 05, 2016, 11:39:53 PM »
Nah it's all good. I'll wait for you for Porygon-Z since we already agreed to it. I also spent the time to breed the mons you said you were looking for, so we can still do those too.

Thanks for the trades, that helps me a ton. I'm remembering correctly that you did not need the Sun exclusives, right? If you did then I can go get them for you. If not, you're welcome to one my Regenerator Mareanies once I get one, plus whatever other relevant hidden abilities I can find.
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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #403 on: December 06, 2016, 12:13:38 AM »
Thanks for the trades, that helps me a ton. I'm remembering correctly that you did not need the Sun exclusives, right? If you did then I can go get them for you. If not, you're welcome to one my Regenerator Mareanies once I get one, plus whatever other relevant hidden abilities I can find.
Thanks for your help too. And yeah, I'm all good, no need to worry about breeding more stuff. I think I'll pass on the Mareanie as well, but thanks for the offer.

So yeah, Alola Pokedex complete, woohoo! Afaik this is the fastest I've ever completed a Pokedex, even if it's just the 301 available mons right now and not the full 802.

Yes I did say 301, because Magearna is now available for those in North America. No rush either since apparently this code doesn't expire, which is awesome. And according to Serebii, the European code is expected very soon (they say tomorrow, i.e., the 6th, though the wording kinda leaves it open), so please hang tight.
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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #404 on: December 06, 2016, 12:20:28 AM »
Thanks for your help too. And yeah, I'm all good, no need to worry about breeding more stuff. I think I'll pass on the Mareanie as well, but thanks for the offer.

So yeah, Alola Pokedex complete, woohoo! Afaik this is the fastest I've ever completed a Pokedex, even if it's just the 301 available mons right now and not the full 802.

Yes I did say 301, because Magearna is now available for those in North America. No rush either since apparently this code doesn't expire, which is awesome. And according to Serebii, the European code is expected very soon (they say tomorrow, i.e., the 6th, though the wording kinda leaves it open), so please hang tight.
EU one was also supposed to be today, but is late for some reason (it's being distributed via pokemon TV).

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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #405 on: December 06, 2016, 12:28:10 AM »
Well, no Regenerator Mareanie yet, but I DID FIND THIS:



Chain of probably about 20.



It basically couldn't be worse in nature or ability. Haven't checked IVs yet but I DON'T CARE I LOVE IT.
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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #406 on: December 06, 2016, 04:59:45 AM »
I have like a hundred Leppa Berries.
I have over 600. I used exactly 7 of them when chaining for a 4IV Ditto. 1 for the recycling original ditto, and 6 on my False Swipe Pheromosa. Took me 45-ish minutes.

And once I learned that my original team's IVs were trash I wanted a new one.

And I spent an hour hatching 20 Spearow to get that IV judger...
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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #407 on: December 06, 2016, 05:59:19 PM »
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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #408 on: December 06, 2016, 06:43:10 PM »
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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #409 on: December 06, 2016, 06:50:24 PM »
First shiny,
grubbin...
popped while hunting for something else.
Annoyingly "very good" speed IV as it's Relaxed and trick room abuse is very possible.


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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #410 on: December 06, 2016, 10:07:43 PM »
Is there any notable glitches that have been found in Sun and Moon that isn't about the "save in the pokemon center" "bug"?

I got Pokerus from a guy off of Wonder Trade and spread it around my main party, but I've noticed after they've been cured, the bottom screen when switching in a battle still says they have Pokerus and not the little cured symbol. I'm wondering if that's intentional or not.

Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #411 on: December 06, 2016, 11:25:32 PM »
Is there any notable glitches that have been found in Sun and Moon that isn't about the "save in the pokemon center" "bug"?
there are there's a reason online has some moves totally banned...
Although that is a full blown bug.

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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #412 on: December 06, 2016, 11:41:49 PM »
Finally beat the main story.  The Champion countered my team hard, but I remembered that stat buff items existed and won out in the end.

I was also rewarded for my trouble with a Jolly Tapu Koko on the first try!

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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #413 on: December 07, 2016, 12:07:13 AM »
ahhh
I'm personally trying to get a Timid Koko since Thunderbolt > Wild Charge (even though its Attack is better than SpA)

Which wouldn't be bad if I wasn't also trying to get it with Hidden Power Ice.

Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #414 on: December 07, 2016, 12:08:31 AM »
I was also rewarded for my trouble with a Jolly Tapu Koko on the first try!
Really should have rerolled my tapus more. At least they all have okay natures, just wish they weren't so essential in competitive.
Also keep your main party with you for the moment, post game can be "fun" to start with.

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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #415 on: December 07, 2016, 12:29:20 AM »
ahhh
I'm personally trying to get a Timid Koko since Thunderbolt > Wild Charge (even though its Attack is better than SpA)

Which wouldn't be bad if I wasn't also trying to get it with Hidden Power Ice.

Yeah, I guess with its moveset timid > jolly, but when life gives you a low catchrate lemon with a decent nature, you make... physical attacker lemonade, or something.

Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #416 on: December 07, 2016, 12:55:42 AM »
Yeah, I guess with its moveset timid > jolly, but when life gives you a low catchrate lemon with a decent nature, you make... physical attacker lemonade, or something.
It gets standard flying moveset so has some decent physical coverage on that side, not like it's job is beyond hard stopping hypnosis and making Raichu god without wasting a turn or two (has both u-turn and volt switch access).

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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #417 on: December 07, 2016, 01:17:10 AM »
The only thing that could have made Special Koko the thing is if it got Hurricane to pair up with Terrain-boosted Thunder in Rain

At the very least it would beat up, maybe like Venusaur instead of throwing Brave Bird at it.

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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #418 on: December 07, 2016, 01:44:42 AM »

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Re: Pokemon Sun and Moon are out! Alola, MoTK!
« Reply #419 on: December 07, 2016, 01:48:58 AM »
I thought it was cute until I got mine. After seeing it move it's kind of creepy. And like the Tapus (and many legendary Pokemon, to be fair) it doesn't really "look like a Pokemon" to me.
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