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Toushiro Scarlet

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My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« on: May 03, 2016, 05:37:08 AM »
Everyone who is arguing about whether Gensokyo is real, dream and other stuff, why don't you just stop for a while and have a look at my theory? Well, although I'm still in grade school, I'm quite interested about science, cosmology and all other complex stuff, and definitely, Touhou, as a big cluster of these, draws my interest quite well.

During my free time, pretty much all I does is just looking up some random scientific stuff and Touhou-related stuff, and I eventually started to research the relationsip between Gensokyo and our world, and some interesting result is coming up. (In order to protect your eyes from getting sour from reading all these letters, I will post my theories on different threads.) I guess it's time to stop blabbering, let's get started.

Why does ZUN wants to create Touhou?
You might laugh at this one, but it's a quite interesting topic. Most people will just say :"Well, aren't ZUN just doing it for fun?" That's one possible theory. But, however, I have another theory.

Touhou is a franchise created by ZUN, under the request of Yukari, to help spread faith and belief of Youkai and God.

This one actually have many points that back it up. The most prominent being the Great Hakurei Barrier and the Boundary of Dream and Reality, which is the two barrier that protects Gensokyo from human invasion. Those barriers are not physical, as shown by Marisa. So, in order to keep the barrier going, some kind of spiritual energy is required to power it (Spiritual energy does actually exist). Yukari certainly doesn't have enough energy for powering those barriers on a long-term basis (Which is probably why, Yukari is sleeping all the time). So what is the best way to gather those energy? Of course, from the Outside World! Yukari found ZUN when she was travelling to the outside world, and they quickly became good friends. Since ZUN is also quite interested in those ancient Japanese mythology (Which some of them are lost since Meiji Restoration, where the legends about Youkai are gradually forgotten and the Barrier was bulit to protect the Youkai and God who lost faith from disappearing), Yukari then requested ZUN to make a game that represents the events happening at Gensokyo (Like the Incidents, and how Reimu went to solve them), which ZUN then happily accepts, since making game is quite fun for him.

You might ask here:" Why don't Yukari just make it an Anime or Manga? Aren't them more popular?" And I can tell you here, the answer is No. Well, not entirely. Anime and Manga did goes quite viral for a while, but following the popularity burst, the popularity can also die down pretty fast (For long-running series like One Piece and Naruto, their popularity will also eventually decrease when the series is finished). But for games, it's almost impossible for people to forget about them once they gained fame. Look at Pokemon, Mario and Zelda. Those are ANCIENT games from the last century, and is still very popular nowadays. Also, at the end of 20 century, shooting games are still quite popular, and ZUN(or Yukari) managed to catch the trend. Which is why, Touhou gained a lot of popularity when it cames out. (Now, hopefully you gets a good reason why Yukari choose to make Touhou a game!)

This also perfectly explains why even after Touhou became very famous all over the world, ZUN still doesn't want to commercialise the games (Like, selling them to a big company for mountains of crates of beer). Because what ZUN really wants is not money, but rather, helping his best friend Yukari Yakumo and the land she loved, Gensokyo.

But what if , ZUN really just created it for fun?
Well, if that's the case, then it is quite easy to explain as well. According to my research (So far), anything that you draw and any story you write becomes real.

WARNING! HEAVY SCIENCE THEORY AHEAD!
This might sounds horrifying, but don't worry, they are just in a different dimensional world than us. Like, when you draw a stick man on a paper, the stick man is considered "Exist". But it won't just pop into your room, screaming for attention at a random day, since it exists in a different world than us, a world with the only definition of "Length" and "Width", which is considered as a 2D world (Our world is 4D, with "Length" Width" "Height" and "Time"). If you erased the stick man, the stick man ceased to exist, but it still exists in the Timeline of that particular dimension (Which, the Timeline is somehow based on our dimension). Now, let's get back onto track. Certainly, as ZUN continues to add more settings to the "characters", their dimension begins to expand (When you add more settings to the background of the characters, the definition of "Height" or even "Time" is added, since we create them based on our experience in this 4D world). And when he creates Yukari, the whole world will just go upside down, if she feels like it.

But if they are the character you created, you can just control them by changing their personality and such. Is that right? Well, it is, as long as you don't give them any dangerous power. Which, in this case, is Yukari and Keine.

As we all know, Yukari-sama's power is the control over boundaries. The boundary can be anything, such as the boundary of existence, life and death, race, gender, EVERYTHING.(Althought I might be terribly wrong, a dimension without boundary is considered to be 10D, according to Stephen Hawkings). This power, along with many setting ZUN added to her, allows her to break free from the Author's Chain (Funny name I gave to the concept I listed above), and possibly allowing her to break the others free from the Chain as well. Which means, she can also cross the boundary of parallel world to visit us. Really, I'm serious. you could very possibly find Yukari ripping open a gap on your wall, looking at you at ANY moment (If she is interested in you). And also, she can get into anyone's computer, or even the internet, to look at some funny posts about people saying that she is an old hag (Luckily, as far as I know, she don't care!). There is a great chance that she came MotK at least once, and it is even possible that she is looking at our threads now!
Whew, yeah! No more Science!

If that's the case, then we are still very lucky. Her laziness, smartness and love for Gensokyo means that she is too smart to do silly things that mess up our world.(also, she is possibly too lazy to do that as well!) But the good thing is, there is 99% chance that she also created a Gensokyo in our world, a REAL one!

Conclusion: Following both theories, we can pretty much say that GENSOKYO IS REAL! unless there is someone even smarter than me can disprove my theories, which is something I look forward to.

Oh yeah, finally finished, my finger are all sore from typing this! Hopefully I got your brains big like watermelons! Let me know if you got any questions and comments!

But hey, it's just a theory, A GAME THEORY! (Obvious reference!)
« Last Edit: May 03, 2016, 05:39:13 AM by Toushiro Scarlet »
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Toushiro Scarlet

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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2016, 06:35:32 AM »
I will write about the exact reason why Touhou was so popular in the next episode. Hope you guys will enjoy it!
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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2016, 03:18:01 PM »
Interesting, hope it include the multiverse theory so that Yukari doesn't even need to tried to create a game like Touhou (she could have just picked it up and steal it spiritual lifeforce from the timeline that it exist)

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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2016, 03:46:53 PM »
(In order to protect your eyes from getting sour from reading all these letters, I will post my theories on different threads.)

Let me just ask that you put all subsequent theories of yours in this thread, rather than creating multiple threads of Touhou theories. It will help maintain a lively discussion as the theories progress, and keep the board tidy. Thanks in advance!

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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2016, 06:59:35 PM »
I remember trying to persuade someone online that death notes and kiras weren't real back in the day. It didn't work.
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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2016, 09:10:38 PM »
Nicely done, this is already turning out to be a rather interesting read.  Though I suggest proofreading your works before posting (of course, going by the assumption that English is your first language).  I look forward to seeing what else you can come up with.
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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2016, 09:40:30 PM »
Touhou is a franchise created by ZUN, under the request of Yukari, to help spread faith and belief of Youkai and God.

........no.
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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2016, 02:31:49 AM »
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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2016, 05:12:35 AM »
I remember trying to persuade someone online that death notes and kiras weren't real back in the day. It didn't work.

It's not real in our dimension, though.
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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2016, 05:14:22 AM »
Nicely done, this is already turning out to be a rather interesting read.  Though I suggest proofreading your works before posting (of course, going by the assumption that English is your first language).  I look forward to seeing what else you can come up with.

Well, thanks! (I'm Chinese :])
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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2016, 09:16:46 AM »
Heeeeeeeeere's Episode 2! (Actually, this counts as Episode 1.5 since I simply just adding some stuff to the previous Episode)

(This theory is based on the Yukari-ZUN friendship theory in the first Episode)

You might always wonder why Touhou, being only a 2D shooting game, gained such tremendous popularity? And why does even after Touhou gained such popularity, ZUN still doesn't want to sell it (or commercialise it) for heaps of beer? Well, I got the answer for you!

This is all Yukari's plan, as I said in the first Episode.

From the types of Touhou games, to ZUN's extremely lenient opinion on the copyright stuff of Touhou (It's right on the sticky!), EVEN THE BAD DRAWING OF ZUN AND HIS MUSIC STYLE (although I actually doubt these two a bit) are all planned by Yukari,carried out by ZUN, as an effort to gain popularity (and ultimately, Faith and Belief!) to support the two Barriers that protects Gensokyo.

For the game type question, I have already said it in the first Episode, (Something like shooting game is quite popular in the late 90's and it still carried on on the early 21 century) and I'm too lazy to type it all over again :D . The very same thing can also apply to the fighting games ZUN created with Twilight Frontier, which, turns out to be a success. Now, which one are we on now? Oh yes, the copyright stuff. Needless to say, THIS is the most basic concept for many doujin circles to form and begin selling their work to people, which can be a HUGE contributor to the immense popularity of Touhou.

NOW IT'S THE TIME TO THROW OUT THE BIG GUN! OUR ALL-TIME FAVORITE ZUN ART !!!!! (and some weird stuff)

Maybe ZUN really just can't draw well and ZUN just love to use his old synthesizer to make music? Well I'd call this a coincidence. But, as you guys may know, there really aren't that much "coincidences" happening all the time. In fact, in the country of origin for me and Hong Meiling, China, we usually say that when a continuous, related "coincidence" happened more than three times, it's on purpose. (But for this one, it could very well be just a coincidence!) Now, is ZUN art a creation on purpose? Idk. But, in my opinion, it's very possible. You know, if you purposely draw something bad on DeviantArt, you might just receive a handful of tomatoes and stinky eggs and hate comments. Why, just why, does ZUN art so popular? There is two reason for this. The first one is an extremely simple and funny one: Because the game itself is so awesome so the art doesn't really matter? Probably not.

So, the REAL reason behind the ZUN art's popularity (Since everyone is making fun of it!) is how we see the in-game arts today. The artwork of the characters are something that almost every game maker think is important, and the character they draw usually are quite "art-like", and we just see these art style everyday when we play a game. But, what if an awesome game has goofy "character" design? Now that's something new and eye-catching. Because we see those stereotypical game arts everyday and we already grown tired of it, of course we want something new! And the ZUN art perfectly fills the job! (Mostly because the awesome game part! If the game itself is horrible, you will just get even more stinky eggs and tomatoes!) It also provides us something new to make fun with,which is something that almost everybody likes to do. (A perfect example of So bad, It's good!) It also gives the fandom a "base", so they can be imaginative and draw all those girls (and RINNOSUKE!) in their awesome style.

This is also quite similar to the "character" setting of Touhou. The characters in Touhou are only given a small amount of personality based on what they are really like in the border, which the fandom can easily add their own secondary personality in their fan works, like a certain "Charismatic" Vampire.

All right, for the music. The first time I hear the Touhou music, I immediately related its style to Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire. Even on the newer games, the music is still like the Pokemon Generation 3-type music. (But it's pretty nice anyway). Now, you guys probably understands what I'm gonna say next. Yes, like ZUN arts and character setting, the music is also just a base, providing heaps of creative space. You can rearrange the music to any style, piano to jazz, gothic to orchestra. In fact, it's even possible to change the mood of the entire piece in two different arrangements! Since the base sounds nice from the beginning, the arrangements can't fail unless the arranger is really bad. Compared to those stupid and annoying pop songs from today, Touhou music really makes itself stand out with those nice arrangements. Of course, at this point, it's obvious why so many people likes them. (Also, many piano arrangements of Touhou, such as One Night Hell Screen, greatly helped me out on my music assessment and performance!)

Aaaaaaaaand Yukari planned all of these.

These aspects of Touhou, plus ZUN's (possible) encouragement on the fan creation, have inspired many doujin circles to publish their fanbooks and album. Which, in turn, gave Touhou a tremendous boost on its popularity. Smart strategy, huh? (Which is one of the many reasons why I admire Yukari-sama so much!)

Conclusion: ZUN or Yukari (Or both) are quite smart, by using some smart strategy to attract popularity from the outside world and strengthen the Barrier. Anyway, I'm confused. Is ZUN actually a Youkai?

But hey, it's just a theory, A GAME THEORY!
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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2016, 10:08:37 AM »
No offense but if you think ZUN's music sounds like Pokemon you should probably consider buying some new headphones or speakers urgently.

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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2016, 10:13:11 AM »
No offense but if you think ZUN's music sounds like Pokemon you should probably consider buying some new headphones or speakers urgently.

Sorry for not stating that quite clearly. By that I actually means the instrument rather than the melody. Gosh I really need to lay off the drugs D:
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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2016, 11:54:21 AM »
Sorry for not stating that quite clearly. By that I actually means the instrument rather than the melody. Gosh I really need to lay off the drugs D:
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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2016, 12:10:29 PM »


The thing about your theories, is that I don't think there -is- a way to disprove them. You can pick them up and decide whether or not you support it or not, and change your behavior accordingly, but there's little use in trying to make it a straight up 'debate'.  Discussing stuff like this helps each person come along to refine their theory of Gensokyo and life based on what they pick up, and their particular tastes. Ultimately I believe that "you should do you, and no one else".


With that out of the way, I like what you've worked out for yourself. It shares some similarity to how I view things. Specifically in ascribing some amount of autonomy to Yukari Yakumo. And also what you said: anything that you draw and any story you write becomes real. Like, heck yes. (Of course, you have to ask 'what is real' and decide how you feel about -that- question, but the vague sense is fine). What's important is that Gensokyo has a certain 'reality' to it.

However, I don't ascribe to the theory that ZUN and Yukari conspired to bring over a Gensokyo-sized van of illegal youkai immigrants into the real world.  Personally, I think that ideas want to exist, and people want to bring ideas into existence. Which came first, the chicken or the egg? This question I believe applies to creator and his creation, the dreamer and the dreamed.

Because some people like the sciency 'evidence', here's my illustrative rationale. Take a blank CD-ROM. We can all agree that there is a large, but finite possible configuration of 0s and 1s on that CD-ROM. So that means within this finite and exhaustible set of sequences, it includes things like a .wav - transcribed conversation of ZUN and Yukari Yakumo conspiring to create Gensokyo, the entire transcripts for every conversation ever HAD in Gensokyo, pictures (real and illustrated) of Tengukami flying through Gensokyo airspace dressed as Aya Shameimaru with danmaku in the background, so on and so forth. If you filled enough disks with random ones and zeros, you would theoretically come out with a disk that's nothing but straight up Gensokyo content.

But. What if instead of 'random' disks, you replaced those with people? And the one's an zeros with ideas. From our observable reality, ZUN created a *spark* in the minds of people, which started to grow Gensokyo proper. And suddenly, you have content coming from every direction. ZUN just designs the characters, sets the melody, puts a basic framework in place, (essentially making a GIANT ARROW pointing to a region of fantasy) and then the fandom breathes life into that framework, follows that arrow and fleshes it out.

Do you want to believe ZUN is conspiring with supernatural beings? Do you want to believe ZUN came up with the basic idea and it just memed the fuck out of control? Or do you want to believe that both ZUN and Gensokyo 'got lucky' in a sense, with a fortunate pairing leading to something good happening? That's up to you.


Personally, I don't worry much about which came first, the dreamer or the dreamer. Because my favorite dish is Oyakodon (literally 'parent and child bowl'), which is chicken cooked with egg. It's tastier if you mix it all together yourself and eat it. Hehe.

That's my two cents.



Oh, and I also believe that we are all the Hakurei shrine maidens of our own personal Gensokyo (and come together here to make 'the maidens of the kaleidoscope' and share that world with each other). I was very fortunate for Yukari Yakumo to move in with me because i'm a broke NEET. (This actually happened)


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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2016, 04:58:56 AM »
Wow, that's a pretty nice theory you got there, Nobu! I really like how you are using the chicken and egg paradox on the concept of Touhou. Did Yukari actually moved in to your house? Well that means she really is busy! Because she spent sometimes talking to me in my dream and meddling with stuff in my house as well!
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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2016, 05:59:50 AM »
I guess it's time to start Episode 3, our dreamy adventure?

Dreams, every single sentient creature's spiritual plane. It is always shrouded by mysteries. Where does it connect? And what exactly can it do? Only Doremy knows! In this Episode, we are going to talk specifically about dreams and weird stuff that happens while you dream, which, can explain the reality of Gensokyo from a certain degree.

There is a thread on the forum about all of Touhou-related dream you guys had. You can have a look over there. But, compared to you guys, aside from sometimes Yukari talking to me about some confidencial information, I only had two full Touhou-related dreams that actually is REAL. In fact, it's not only real, It's Astral Projection.

If any of you actually have been through the story of Urban Legend in Limbo, you will probably get what I was saying. Yes, I was spirited away to Gensokyo.

You might ask, how do I know if I was spirited away or I was just dreaming? Well, when you are Astrially Projected, you will feel a weird tingling sensation both when your spirit leave your body and when it returns. When I have those two dreams, I experienced the tingling sensation both when the dream started and ended. And although it feels like a dream, it has a sensation of "Reality" in it. Anyway, it's quite hard to describe these in words. You won't actually know it until you experienced it.

I can't really quite remember what my first dream is about, but I remember the second one quite clearly, so I will focus on that.

While I was spirited away, I crossed the Barrier as a spirit. (You might feel a bit dizzy when you go through it). Then, I wandered around on a bamboo forest (Of course it's quite dark), and seconds later, I found my self in a Japanese bamboo house, with Maribel next to me. I can still remember the sensation at that time. I feels like, very tiny. like a shadow in the forest. I don't quite know how Maribel was there, maybe she was spirited away as well? Anyway, the sensation is quite real, even after I woke up. Then, weeks later, I stumbled on the Touhou Wikia entry of Urban Legend In Limbo, and surprisingly found that what I have been through matches exactly to the definition of "spirit away" in the Wikia.

Apart from this, I have seen many fragments in my dream about people in Gensokyo,  like Reisen and Kaguya. The most surprising one being Doremy. According to a scientific theory, you can only see people and things that you have previously seen in a dream. But, I don't even know Doremy at that time, so how did she gets into my dream? Well, it can't be helped. She is the guardian of Dream World, so literally she can access anyone's dream at any time, including mine.

So after all of this, it still leads back to one of my theory I mentioned earlier: "Anything you draw and any story you write become real". Maybe it's not actually "Becoming real", but rather, they have been there already for a long time? Either way, You decide!

Gosh, I really needs to lay off the drugs. Maybe I have to change the title to "Evidences that Gensokyo is real?"
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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2016, 06:39:24 AM »
Did Yukari actually moved in to your house? Well that means she really is busy! Because she spent sometimes talking to me in my dream and meddling with stuff in my house as well!

I met my boyfriend while he was cosplaying Yukari, and later joined the same Skype group as him and we hit it off over time. Fast forward a couple years in the future and we've been dating for a year and a half, and he now lives with me. The con where we 'first met', I was cosplaying Reimu and him as Yukari. I actually picked him up from the airport in cosplay.
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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2016, 06:56:36 AM »
I met my boyfriend while he was cosplaying Yukari, and later joined the same Skype group as him and we hit it off over time. Fast forward a couple years in the future and we've been dating for a year and a half, and he now lives with me. The con where we 'first met', I was cosplaying Reimu and him as Yukari. I actually picked him up from the airport in cosplay.

Whaaaaaaaat? So that's not the actual Yukari-sama who lived in your house? :(  But anyway it's nice to have a boyfriend that shares a common interest! I wish I have a girlfriend that likes Touhou as well!
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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2016, 10:47:54 AM »
Whaaaaaaaat? So that's not the actual Yukari-sama who lived in your house? :( 

Oh? One seems to have a good idea as to the 'real' Yukari... or do they?  :toot:
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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2016, 11:57:36 AM »
I keep seeing astral projection as a common route into Gensokyo - in fact, I hear it used more often than my own prefered Sumireko route of dreaming. I'm starting to think that it's the most common way of entering Gensokyo. I should probably look it up.

Nonetheless, I have dreams which are clearly dreams and dreams in which I know I'm interacting with actual Gensokyans. I don't know if I'm actually using astral projection though.

Nonetheless, I agree with most of your theories. The only thing I have any disagreement with is Yukari and ZUN directly working with each other. The way he says things does seem to me like he believes it's his own idea - even if some of the things suggest that we're correct in our entries into Gensokyo. I personally think that it's more likley that Yukari is manipulating him from behind the scenes - it's somthing she could do and do well.

Still, I internally debate the "everybody has their own Gensokyo" and the "canon Gensokyo" ideas - even if the "canon Gensokyo" could be heavily influenced by fanon. Still, the stickman on paper idea is my reasoning on believing that Gensokyo has a level of reality at minimum. I personally believe that Gensokyo is much more real than just that but I don't really have proof past that. I'm not even sure if Nitori choosing the loch ness monster in ULiL was coincidental or if meeting me (a Scottish person) was in any way influential.
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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2016, 12:09:18 AM »
Nonetheless, I agree with most of your theories. The only thing I have any disagreement with is Yukari and ZUN directly working with each other. The way he says things does seem to me like he believes it's his own idea - even if some of the things suggest that we're correct in our entries into Gensokyo. I personally think that it's more likley that Yukari is manipulating him from behind the scenes - it's somthing she could do and do well.

Actually, even I doubt this one as well. Because, if Yukari can do everything by herself, why would she needs ZUN? BECAUSE SHE IS TOO LAZY! The most fitting theory at this time is, Yukari only requested ZUN to make Touhou, and periodically bringing news from inside the border so ZUN have new materials to make game with, and she leaves everything else to him. This way, she can both find a way to improve the Faith and Belief on Youkai, God and Barrier, while enjoying her sleep and pranks on people (Including me!)

So, this could lead to one more problems. ZUN takes time to make a new game (Or draw a new manga), plus he just became a father few years ago (Parenting is quite hard work). Which means, the storyline in the new game does not match the exact time it happens in Gensokyo. For example, LoLK came out in 2015, but the exact time the same event happened in Gensokyo is probably much more earlier than that, maybe in 2014 or even late 2013? But anyway, this won't be a large issue, right?
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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2016, 04:54:11 AM »
Oh? One seems to have a good idea as to the 'real' Yukari... or do they?  :toot:

What? I'm confused  :wat:
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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2016, 07:28:46 AM »
What? I'm confused  :wat:

Can you really say with any shred of confidence that you know anything 'true' about Yukari Yakumo? What is real, what is fake, what is likely or unlikely as a theory in this situation? She could just as easily have manipulated things so that you would theorize a particular way. Or see her differently from how she actually is.

Real or fakeness aside, my boyfriend is associated with Yukari -somehow-. Whether that makes him a simple fan, a pawn, an alter ego, or a Maribel-equivalent of Yukari I can only fantasize about.
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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2016, 10:46:12 PM »
Can you really say with any shred of confidence that you know anything 'true' about Yukari Yakumo? What is real, what is fake, what is likely or unlikely as a theory in this situation? She could just as easily have manipulated things so that you would theorize a particular way. Or see her differently from how she actually is.

Real or fakeness aside, my boyfriend is associated with Yukari -somehow-. Whether that makes him a simple fan, a pawn, an alter ego, or a Maribel-equivalent of Yukari I can only fantasize about.

Well, the actual thing that I can confirm about her is she really likes to "play" with people :3
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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2016, 12:12:31 AM »
All right. Now here is a point. Ever since I join the great church of Touhou, weird "supernatural"stuff keeps happening in my house.
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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2016, 08:39:08 PM »
Can you elaborate?
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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2016, 05:09:10 AM »
Can you elaborate?

Right. One night, when I was about to leave the house with my mom for an appointment at 4am, I forgot the phone and went back into my house, and it was locked. At that time, no one except my dad was in there, and he was fast asleep at that time. (Actually, my mom interrogated him about locking the door and he said he didn't). I clearly remember that, none of us had locked the door when we went out of the house. So who did it?

The second thing is that, when I play Touhou, my computer constantly crashes and glitches if I did badly. In one occasion, I yelled "Stop messing around with my computer, Yukari!" and the glitching stopped (for a while).

The last thing, which just happened recently. My bags of potato chips have gone missing after leaving it in a plastic bag for about a month. I clearly remembered there are two bags of potato chips when I first leave it there, but there's only one when I discovered that bag.  (I'm certain that my parents didn't eat it).

Oh yes, and the "spirited away" count as one, not mention many weird and strange dream fragments about what happened in Gensokyo.

I blame Yukari.
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Re: My theory about Touhou and Gensokyo [Episode 1]
« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2016, 08:55:53 AM »
And you don't think there's other, more mundane, less tenuous explanations for any of these things?

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