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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #210 on: December 14, 2015, 07:42:13 PM »


Well shit, this happened on my first Mythical run while clearing 5x4 Hera-Ur for the stone. I think I have too many of these fuckers now.

Also I forgot I don't have any Sumire friends so I doubt I'm going to be able to pull this off on Legend Plus.

Edit: OH WHAT THE FUCK THE LEGEND PLUS RUN HAD ONE TOO. Can anyone else confirm if these guys are super common or not?

I think the lowest invade rate I have heard reported was... 20%. Which makes sense given that Mythical is supposedly 15%. Either way, I have heard that they are not terribly hard to find. I ran into one on my first attempt but died to it since it actually DOES hit for Legend+ damage despite everything else being unchanged in statistics.

Also if you count the fact that you were shafted on invades for the stat up ones, now everything's coming to a head and you'll probably get bazillions of them. Good luck.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #211 on: December 14, 2015, 07:43:24 PM »
Too late because I already went in, but the answer would have been "next 45 minutes because I already bought the dungeon without looking". And I don't have the stamina for snother run if I lose. Thanks though.
Oh, I had meant "if you bought it again at some point," haha.  I can't QUITE get her ready THAT fast.  I can get her started though if you think you'll be using her a lot.  Just message me or something ingame because I only use her once in a while for variety right now due to lack of practice(an due to Summer!Awilda not being a thing yet because I need levels and skill levels and a metric ton of TAMAs for her).

EDIT:  Coincidentally, the Present Egg I happen to have in my box is for Bleu.  Go figure!

...oh wait I already max leveled her.  Wow I feel silly.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #212 on: December 14, 2015, 07:45:34 PM »
Holy hell.  I'm not complaining or anything, but the enhance PEM has given me like six fatties so far.

Thing is generous. <_<

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #213 on: December 14, 2015, 07:59:28 PM »
Aaah shit I died on my Legend Plus run because the set of five blue orbs I matched didn't contain an enhance and I didn't notice until it was too late. That's been coming up a lot with Sumire. I kind of don't like her.

I actually let it go without stoning, which I didn't think I would say about a latent. But I'm saving stones for Christmas and latents are common soon, so fuck it. Chalk another one up to "commandercool fucks up absolutely everything".

And JQ, I do intend to try this again soon-ish (with more stamina, I don't know what I was thinking). I might need a skillmax Sumire friend to pull this off, but if let me know when yours is done for insurance. I'm in no hurry at this point.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #214 on: December 14, 2015, 08:06:43 PM »
I've heard the invade rate is 20%, which isn't too bad I guess (same as the chance of a skillup during x2)

way better than bs like elia

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #215 on: December 14, 2015, 08:14:47 PM »
Well, I can't really give you skillmax anytime soon sadly, but I can get her mostly Awoken at the very least right away, and as my edit states I just remembered I had already maxed her level so there's that.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #216 on: December 14, 2015, 08:17:27 PM »
Right, I understand that skillmaxing her is not easy, but if I fuck it up (and I probably will) and run out of skillmax ones having one more wpuld be useful backup.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #217 on: December 14, 2015, 08:20:10 PM »
If you still have your BF I can dump my bubpys into my Sumire and have her up for you and then you wont have to worry about running out :V :moogy:

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #218 on: December 14, 2015, 08:31:15 PM »
One pull, let's gooooo!



Best(in art) Christmas card obtained.  I can rest easy now and gather stones for other things.  ...once I have stamina.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #219 on: December 14, 2015, 08:43:00 PM »
Best(in art) Christmas card obtained.

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Or Siren, actually. But Alraune pulls a solid third place.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #220 on: December 14, 2015, 08:47:46 PM »
Apparently Godin+Amaterasu is airtight in terms of 5x4 Hera-Ur.

I'll look more into it and the implications. If I field Godin along with innumerable light healers I can see it working. Maybe.

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #221 on: December 14, 2015, 08:57:25 PM »
Apparently Godin+Amaterasu is airtight in terms of 5x4 Hera-Ur.

I'll look more into it and the implications. If I field Godin along with innumerable light healers I can see it working. Maybe.

rdj apparently does this, might wanna ask him

Aaah shit I died on my Legend Plus run because the set of five blue orbs I matched didn't contain an enhance and I didn't notice until it was too late. That's been coming up a lot with Sumire. I kind of don't like her.

I actually let it go without stoning, which I didn't think I would say about a latent. But I'm saving stones for Christmas and latents are common soon, so fuck it. Chalk another one up to "commandercool fucks up absolutely everything".

I actually didn't stone when I died either for the exact same reasons, so you're not alone there.

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #222 on: December 14, 2015, 09:26:44 PM »
rdj apparently does this, might wanna ask him

I run normal Mythical/5x4 Legend Plus with GOdin/Z&H/Z&H/Lucifer/Damascus/GOdin, so not quite the same thing.

For Legend Plus, assuming you're going with just one GOdin and not running something like Damascus, some damage amounts to look out for, assuming you're at full health for each:

--synced above-50% ogres: 16128
--Spark Edge: ~10547
--God Gaia Breath: ~9863
--Flame Pillar: ~19952 (you should not be getting hit by this, ideally)
--High Kick: 6852
--Graviton Bomb: ~24184

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #223 on: December 14, 2015, 09:35:16 PM »


Well shit, this happened on my first Mythical run while clearing 5x4 Hera-Ur for the stone. I think I have too many of these fuckers now.

Also I forgot I don't have any Sumire friends so I doubt I'm going to be able to pull this off on Legend Plus.

Edit: OH WHAT THE FUCK THE LEGEND PLUS RUN HAD ONE TOO. Can anyone else confirm if these guys are super common or not?

NO. NO THEY ARE NOT.

I DID ABOUT 20 RUNS FOR THOSE FUCKERS AND ONLY HAD TWO EVEN SHOW UP

YES I'M STILL MAD >:(

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #224 on: December 14, 2015, 09:39:17 PM »
Did a few test runs of Verdandi with a Bastet friend. Even with my meager combo power the difference was noticeable. I will be lookibg further into this.

Right now my team is Verdandi/Cu Chu/Liu Bei/Armadel/Susano/Friend. It's conspicuously lacking a real enhance, which I'm sure would be very useful. Can you see any obvious changes to make here? I'd kind of like to work Spica in somehow, probably in place of Cu Chu.

NO. NO THEY ARE NOT.

I DID ABOUT 20 RUNS FOR THOSE FUCKERS AND ONLY HAD TWO EVEN SHOW UP

YES I'M STILL MAD >:(

Aw, that sucks. And yet, somehow, sounds familiar.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #225 on: December 14, 2015, 09:43:29 PM »
:colbert:

Angel.

Or Siren, actually. But Alraune pulls a solid third place.
Angel gets a respectable second place from me, followed by Ecchi/Siren in some order I don't know with Lilith bringing up the rear(as well as her own, IIRC).
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #226 on: December 14, 2015, 10:31:26 PM »
Havent played this for awhile. Not interested in starting again. But I find myself enjoying fooling around with Mikumikudance. Given the character designs for this game are fantastic, I find it very strange that there would be no PAD MMD models (except for dumpty. But she is a collab right ao she prob doesnt even count).

Am i just failing at looking? Have you guys seen or heard anything? How the carp does a game as big as PAD have no mmd fan models?!

I know there are no 3d models to rip or whatever but Ive seen many peoplr makr mmd models without a "physical" reference.

But yeah. If anyone knows anything please pm me.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #227 on: December 14, 2015, 10:32:27 PM »
They're probably legally aggressive like Nintendo

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #228 on: December 14, 2015, 11:26:04 PM »
Doing Challenge 7 and 8 blind, because I'm dumb.

Challenge 8 was interesting. Never fought Venus before. Despite Venus's plea to be gentle with her, Zaerogoo skyfalls went "nope"

Michael appeared and I'm panicking. "I have to kill him turn one or else!"
So I pop Byakko and kill him turn one.

Commandercool, I'm holding this Gabriel against you. Preemptively binding my Zaerogoo for five turns? I have no bind recovery and no heal orbs???
Fortunately he gave me four turns to chip his HP down, but he still landed his gravity and I had one turn of bind going into Uriel.

My reaction when I OHKO Uriel with only one leader??!??!!

I killed Noah for her troubles of healing me, and proceeded to kill the Twinlits and Sandalphon too.

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #229 on: December 14, 2015, 11:45:19 PM »
Did a few test runs of Verdandi with a Bastet friend. Even with my meager combo power the difference was noticeable. I will be lookibg further into this.

Right now my team is Verdandi/Cu Chu/Liu Bei/Armadel/Susano/Friend. It's conspicuously lacking a real enhance, which I'm sure would be very useful. Can you see any obvious changes to make here? I'd kind of like to work Spica in somehow, probably in place of Cu Chu.

I'm unsure how much a real enhance would be needed but I suspect Freyja would be the obvious optimal choice if you were to ever obtain her. I can personally ignore this somewhat because I make that setup Balanced and therefore can just use Medjedra. Cu Chu is not bad because that one TPA really gets amplified on Bastet mults, and 5 turns is just nice to have. Spica might be alright to try out, though.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #230 on: December 15, 2015, 12:01:29 AM »
yep



Archangel was the only one that I honestly needed though  :V
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #231 on: December 15, 2015, 01:04:09 AM »
Commandercool, I'm holding this Gabriel against you. Preemptively binding my Zaerogoo for five turns? I have no bind recovery and no heal orbs???
Fortunately he gave me four turns to chip his HP down, but he still landed his gravity and I had one turn of bind going into Uriel.



Naw man, that ain't my husbando. See how he's only moderately beautiful? I don't even know that guy.

It's a little disappointing we've never seen Guiding Archangel Gabriel as an enemy. I wonder what he would do. Probably lots of binds, his active is Miracle Of Ice after all.

I'm unsure how much a real enhance would be needed but I suspect Freyja would be the obvious optimal choice if you were to ever obtain her. I can personally ignore this somewhat because I make that setup Balanced and therefore can just use Medjedra. Cu Chu is not bad because that one TPA really gets amplified on Bastet mults, and 5 turns is just nice to have. Spica might be alright to try out, though.

Yeah I guess I don't know how much one is needed either, and yes I think Freyja would be best case scenario. But I don't have her. With double Verdandis my practical max burst tended to be in the <4 million range, which isn't really enough for a lot of stuff, but the extra Bastet damage might push it over the edge, I don't know.

I find myself not actually using Cu Chu very often, but that might be foolishness on my part. Because Verdandi has momentum problems and seems to rely on chipping more than bursting, at least in my experience, my response to a bunch of jammers or poison is usually to orbchange the board so that I don't miss out on a turn of damage. With only one Verdandi I can rely on panic boardchanges less easily, so I figured some insurance would be nice. I don't have anywhere near the math skill necessary to figure out how losing a prong but gaining an orb enhances works out damage-wise, but mostly she's there for the haste and lock resist. I'll at least give her a try once it's possible to skillmax her, but that may not be for a while and I'm certainly not willing to lose Woodpys.

How replacable do you think Susano is? He's great, obviously, and for somebody like me that time extend is a lifesaver, but even with just one Verdandi lead this team is pretty bulky so I wonder if swapping him out for GZL might not be better. Doing that means I lose a lot of the bulk that makes him less necessary though, so maybe not. I don't know, I can experiment. I even kind of like the idea of squeezing Griffin Rider in there somewhere even though he's kind of a sketchy choice.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #232 on: December 15, 2015, 01:17:15 AM »
How replacable do you think Susano is? He's great, obviously, and for somebody like me that time extend is a lifesaver, but even with just one Verdandi lead this team is pretty bulky so I wonder if swapping him out for GZL might not be better. Doing that means I lose a lot of the bulk that makes him less necessary though, so maybe not. I don't know, I can experiment. I even kind of like the idea of squeezing Griffin Rider in there somewhere even though he's kind of a sketchy choice.

Play around and swap out when required. You can go a lot further just straight up being able to use green than Balanced.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #233 on: December 15, 2015, 02:28:48 AM »
he's really bad for shiva

his HP is low and you kinda care about that because you intend to burst heal super hard, his active is basically shit, being both longer and changing two colors, and while he does bring an SBR kagu doesn't to the table he's still a mixed sub in prong land

the true answer is really neither, embrace rozuel supremecy but i can forgive those she has not blessed

Sets also better for long-cd cards because that 1 turn gives you enhanced damage and a more usable orb ratio

in short, red bei is the worst red tri-prong, sure glad I won't roll hi-



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ahahahahaha :V chaore pls

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #234 on: December 15, 2015, 03:45:10 AM »


oh yeah this has been finished for a long while now and i don't see GOLD on her name so can someone please get me that gold name

Since I posted here recently I was just curious how my ex-account was doing... Dear goodness looks like it went to the right hands =P. I still probably would have been way too lazy to 99 everything a character.. but haku's a healer now? daayuuum, that's awsome. I recall loving healers but lamented how their stats were universally pretty poor.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #235 on: December 15, 2015, 04:43:20 AM »
he's really bad for shiva

his HP is low and you kinda care about that because you intend to burst heal super hard, his active is basically shit, being both longer and changing two colors, and while he does bring an SBR kagu doesn't to the table he's still a mixed sub in prong land

He actually doesn't have an SBR.  He has the same awakenings as regular G/R Liu Bei except the green row became a red row.

So he's not really great. But none of the 3 TPA red cards have SBR anyway. I guess Liu Bei himself doesn't really have anything to distinguish himself with. compared to the others.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #236 on: December 15, 2015, 05:05:27 AM »
He actually doesn't have an SBR.  He has the same awakenings as regular G/R Liu Bei except the green row became a red row.

So he's not really great. But none of the 3 TPA red cards have SBR anyway. I guess Liu Bei himself doesn't really have anything to distinguish himself with. compared to the others.

wow shit i swore he did

he's mostly just shit for raw prong then

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #237 on: December 15, 2015, 05:48:41 AM »
wow shit i swore he did

he's mostly just shit for raw prong then

yeah he's pretty trash in red. =v

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #238 on: December 15, 2015, 06:04:16 AM »
yeah he's pretty trash in red. =v

the only use we found was lei as a mixed sub tbh but yeah

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #239 on: December 15, 2015, 09:49:11 AM »
yeah he's pretty trash in red. =v

Liuuu Bei is now officially "trash" (at least in red)..... powercreep is a fearsome enemy  :3 (not saying you are wrong trance, just amused by the fact that not too long ago Bei was considered a top-team steamroller and now....)

On an unrelated note, MFW Izanami is eating hundreds of stam on that last goddamm skill-up and my DQ Hera goes 3/3 using Santa Hera  :trollface:
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