Author Topic: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume  (Read 136889 times)

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #150 on: December 13, 2015, 05:45:41 AM »
For 1 row:  Discounting other factors(Combos, OE, what have you) the difference should be(if my understanding is right), for 1 row:

10x, 9 rows:  19x effective mult(10x*1.9)
12x, 8 rows:  21.6x effective(12*1.8 )

Total damage gain(percentage):  The 12x/8row is ~13.6% stronger than the 10x/9 rows.

I don't know if this knowledge helps at all, but if it does, here it is.
« Last Edit: December 13, 2015, 07:08:28 AM by Jq1790 »
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #151 on: December 13, 2015, 06:06:54 AM »
That does help considerably, yes. In the sense that it confirms that there is a damage difference, and it isn't a negative one. I was so close before with Blodin that even a tiny damage increase should make it work. Good to know.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #152 on: December 13, 2015, 09:32:52 AM »


OK, just 1 more Rodin to skill max left or something

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #153 on: December 13, 2015, 10:09:24 AM »
It was time for me to wipe out my stones in the GF (considering that i don't plan to roll for Xmas at all). Results were.... kinda bad

- Claymore (dupe)
- Lumiel (dupe)
- Goetia (dupe)
- Goetia (WTF RNG?!)
- Sleeping Beauty (oh! finally something decent)
- Kano (dupe)
- Sun Wukong (O_O Heroes has just become the only pantheon that i possess ALL the cards of)
- Vritra (dupe)

Dupe-fest, and not even good ones at that  :X at least i scored the Fairy Girl for my color and Wukong
Gala once again proved its power.
This is officially the last time i roll during an Heroes GF  :V
and now to restock for the next time there is something worthy......
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #154 on: December 13, 2015, 10:48:18 AM »
It was time for me to wipe out my stones in the GF (considering that i don't plan to roll for Xmas at all). Results were.... kinda bad

- Claymore (dupe)
- Lumiel (dupe)
- Goetia (dupe)
- Goetia (WTF RNG?!)
- Sleeping Beauty (oh! finally something decent)
- Kano (dupe)
- Sun Wukong (O_O Heroes has just become the only pantheon that i possess ALL the cards of)
- Vritra (dupe)

Dupe-fest, and not even good ones at that  :X at least i scored the Fairy Girl for my color and Wukong
Gala once again proved its power.
This is officially the last time i roll during an Heroes GF  :V
and now to restock for the next time there is something worthy......

I love how we are now at the point in the game where the only thing you can consider good out of that is the silver egg.

So if I want the Kalis, should I be waiting for the 4x exclusive fests? Or was there one? I don't remember.

We had one not too long ago, yes. It's entirely possible they might reprise it for the new years fest. I got rodin and blonia out of 10 rolls during it, and they're both 6* GFE.
« Last Edit: December 13, 2015, 10:53:21 AM by OverlordChirei »

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #155 on: December 13, 2015, 04:10:31 PM »
Day two godfest pull:

-Okuninushi

Badass. I've actually wanted him for quite a while. And I've gotta say, my gold rate has been crazy lately. It's been a while since I did a one-of roll and got a silver. Hadn't been getting very many pantheon gods, but I'm 2/2 for this event.

Edit: And after another Challenge 10 run this morning I'm giving up on it. I can reliably get past Satan now, but I can't stall on Athena long enough with 1x RCV to swap leaders back. Maybe with a lot of luck I could, but it's not worth the wasted stamina. So I can't get a good score in the ranking dungeon and I can't beat very hard dungeons. Oh well. I tried.
« Last Edit: December 13, 2015, 04:23:22 PM by commandercool »
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #156 on: December 13, 2015, 04:25:00 PM »
Decided to do the calculations further, ccool, and discovered that while the difference narrows as row count increases(as one woild expect because the damage mult increases multiplicativey), even with three rows the 12x/8row team does more damage.

~7.7% more at 2 rows, ~2% more at 3.  Just in case either of those comes up ever or you were academically curious like me.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #157 on: December 13, 2015, 04:32:14 PM »
Decided to do the calculations further, ccool, and discovered that while the difference narrows as row count increases(as one woild expect because the damage mult increases multiplicativey), even with three rows the 12x/8row team does more damage.

~7.7% more at 2 rows, ~2% more at 3.  Just in case either of those comes up ever or you were academically curious like me.

That's good to know. At the level that I'm working at it probably doesn't practically matter very often, since it should usually just be a matter of "burst kills everything regardless". Where that does come in handy potentially is either bursting without swapping leads, or trying to conserve actives during a burst.

Unfortunately the very specific way MegaSatan works means that I usually can't try to save my Snow White active to make stalling Athena easier, since I need it to unbind people, but if he didn't work that way looking into how to burst with fewer blue orbs would be my next step, and those numbers would be great for that.

I'll keep that in mind for if it ever comes up though, thanks.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #158 on: December 13, 2015, 07:14:43 PM »
got 107k but that's still only 14.5%

oh well at least the later ranking dungeons are anti push button (no awakenings/actives)

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #159 on: December 13, 2015, 07:25:50 PM »
Still in the same reward tier as before, so I'm ok on ranking dungeons.

Like I said, I just don't have the team to deal with this shit.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #160 on: December 13, 2015, 10:58:17 PM »
uhhhh



asaku pls




pls chill that was a fuckin 25 combo

all time damage record broken


(also





I&I/Ryune strong)

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #161 on: December 13, 2015, 11:34:36 PM »
all time damage record broken

Lol.

You beat my all-time record by quite a lot. My highest damage from a single sub (with a hypermax Kali on a Ra team in a no-hearts dungeon) was 10,868,800. Although I didn't have Sun Quan active that turn and I could have, which would have been 21,737,600. But it wasn't. :derp:
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #162 on: December 14, 2015, 12:06:54 AM »
Reminds me of when my friends tried to do a damage competition after the 7x6 boards released.



Using Lu Bu is kinda cheating though.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #163 on: December 14, 2015, 12:26:01 AM »
asaku pls

Dang, you got me beat by a long shot. Was testing my ASakuya with the Challenge dungeons this afternoon and



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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #164 on: December 14, 2015, 12:27:09 AM »
So now that they're out, what do you guys think of the Constellations?

There's a lot to dislike about them. They have the most generic cookie-cutter stats we've seen in a pantheon in a looooong time (possibly ever?), lack of skillboosts is annoying, they use the popcorn mechanic which I at least find to be awkward and overused, they don't bring anything particular to the table that's new, they don't easily fit into a lot of teams due to their lack of rows or prongs, and one of their big selling points (double lock resists) is possible to overshoot and invalidate.

Despite all of that I kind of like them. I like that they're pushing orb enhance, which is a mechanic I've been finding myself liking a lot. Although they're not great at it yet, two orb enhances still isn't special at all, but I expect they'll get interesting when their evolutions come out. I like their leader skills despite how generic they are and their use of popcorn. Compared to Sumire, for example, I would rather have a Constellation any day, at least in the leader skill department. Sumire has the obvious benefit of a ridiculously spammable active, but I would rather have consistent, if bypassable, damage reduction and a slightly lower multiplier over huge but hard-to-set-up damage reduction just about any day.

As subs they seem like a bit of a hard sell, but that double lock resist means they certainly have a niche. And their active, while not especially new or exciting, is rock solid on certain teams. The "orbchange something normal as well as jammers and/or poison" mechanic limits itself to monocolored teams since there's pretty much no way you're pulling off any strenuous rainbow stuff after all of that orbchanging to one color, but that's true of most orbchangers, and they don't pay too harshly for all of the added effects, cooldown-wise.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #165 on: December 14, 2015, 01:31:04 AM »


90% Silver Rate 10% Gold Rate for XMAS REM

i would recommend not following my example unless you have a lot of money to burn and don't really need much from the normal REM

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #166 on: December 14, 2015, 01:32:01 AM »
I think they're solid. I don't care much for them as leaders really, but for their actives, I think they're pretty nice-- and double skill bind resist is pretty nice. I like their art as well.

I think I definitely want Spica and Castor. Alrescha, maybe.



90% Silver Rate 10% Gold Rate for XMAS REM

i would recommend not following my example unless you have a lot of money to burn and don't really need much from the normal REM

Roll until Gold. That's all I will do this year, I think.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #167 on: December 14, 2015, 01:36:10 AM »
My Christmas REM plan is to roll until I get Angel and Paulina. I have a 0/2 record for rolling for specific collab four-stars, so I think the odds of my getting them are next to zero. But since there are two things I want this time maybe I'll at least be able to have one? I don't particularly care about anything buts the silvers, but I wouldn't be upset to have any of them.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #168 on: December 14, 2015, 01:39:01 AM »

Roll until Gold. That's all I will do this year, I think.

sounds like a plan. i think all of the golds are good except maaaaybe genie.

My Christmas REM plan is to roll until I get Angel and Paulina. I have a 0/2 record for rolling for specific collab four-stars, so I think the odds of my getting them are next to zero. But since there are two things I want this time maybe I'll at least be able to have one? I don't particularly care about anything buts the silvers, but I wouldn't be upset to have any of them.

it should be worth noting that in my 33 rolls I didn't get xmas alraune

:(

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #169 on: December 14, 2015, 01:56:36 AM »
xmas rem in order of desire

RKali = Santakuya
Hakkunakah
CRoniamas = Paulina
Alraune
Angel
everything else

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #170 on: December 14, 2015, 02:18:48 AM »


Perfect run was waiting in a parking lot yesterday of all things. Got shoved to 6% today but I think I'm safe unless an army of whales wakes up.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #171 on: December 14, 2015, 02:28:50 AM »
Is the Christmas REM out tomorrow? People keep asking me when it comes out and I've been telling them that my best guess is with part two of the Christmas event, but it it's out in Japan I assume that means we're getting it very soon. And the dungeon comes out tomorrow.

Christ, Challenge 9 is hard. I think I'm bad at PAD. orz.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #172 on: December 14, 2015, 02:37:30 AM »
Is the Christmas REM out tomorrow? People keep asking me when it comes out and I've been telling them that my best guess is with part two of the Christmas event, but it it's out in Japan I assume that means we're getting it very soon. And the dungeon comes out tomorrow.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/puzzle-dragons-north-america-gungho/puzzle-dragons-christmas-arrives/1181917838503473

yes

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #173 on: December 14, 2015, 08:26:54 AM »
worth it


Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #174 on: December 14, 2015, 08:43:55 AM »

coulda stopped first roll, heh
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #175 on: December 14, 2015, 09:05:18 AM »
Bah humbug
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #176 on: December 14, 2015, 09:27:23 AM »
3 rolls on Christmas REM - the light and the water 4-stars, then oh hi
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Too bad about the cost. It'll be a long time before I can use her.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #177 on: December 14, 2015, 09:54:33 AM »
$70 spent and not a single gold egg. Forget it.

Got all the silvers though, so meh.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #178 on: December 14, 2015, 09:55:23 AM »
I decided to purchase XMAS Ronia with my MP.

Totally worth it for that art.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #179 on: December 14, 2015, 12:40:37 PM »
Reminds me of when my friends tried to do a damage competition after the 7x6 boards released.



Using Lu Bu is kinda cheating though.

And I can't even do 10 million damage overall ?_(ツ)_/?