Puzzle and Dragons Thread 23 - LET'S GET WET (and salty)

[Jq1790]

How fighting Merc is SUPPOSED to go.  None of that "dying because I didn't delay Hera-Is" crap like my last time downing him.

I just felt like rubbing it in, hence the nornboarding.  Also to prevent myself from screwing it up and dying when I had the victory right in front of me, haha.  Merc and blue jewel get.  1 down, 3 to go since haha God Rush yeahright.

Spoiler:

I'm trying to ignore the fact that this took like 250-300 stamina to get right

[Janitor Morgan]

KR's got its next event info up, so I'm expecting to see at least some of what's there coming to NA and EU shortly: http://pad.neocyon.com/W/event/view.aspx?id=285

To summarize:
--Sha Wujing and Zhu Bajie
--Yamato Rush
--Challenge Dungeons 12(?). Notably, time extend tama as the level 5 reward instead of a snowglobe.
--Ilya and Grizal invades
--coin dungeons have Draggie, Gaia, and Xuanzang added to them for the event duration

[commandercool]

--coin dungeons have Draggie, Gaia, and Xuanzang added to them for the event duration

Oh weird. That's weird.

I... Should finish a Gaia team at some point I guess.

[trancehime]

Oh weird. That's weird.

Descends being in coin dungeons was a thing that started a few months ago in JP, but the coin dungeon rotation lag is super real.

[commandercool]

So what's the consensus on Sha Wujing and Zhu Bajie? They seem almost really good, maybe. Zhu Bajie in particular seems possibly viable, since the Xuanzang she makes you bring at least has a white row and therefore sort of synergizes with Sun Wukong into a bizarre 4/9/0 white row team where the leads are incompatible with the rest of the team for some reason. I know white rows is a little lacking, but if you went with double row subs in your last two slots you could have seven, which seems like plenty with 9x attack, and you'd have a metric crapton of HP. And odds are you'd end up being skill lock immune, since you've got four with just the required cards. Recovery would probably blow, but Xuanzang helps with that occasionally. It looks kind of maybe viable to me on paper.

Maybe Zhu Bajie/Sun Wukong/Xuanzang/Split Apollo/Da Qiao/Zhu Bajie?

Could use Big Dog or Thor for an enhance too, since you might need a little more damage to crack tough bosses. And Big Dog probably wants 4x his HP. Venus could work for mega rows and sort of a damage enhance. Fuma Kotaro could be good since again he has big HP to multiply a lot of times, and he changes away a color that nobody else does.

Descends being in coin dungeons was a thing that started a few months ago in JP, but the coin dungeon rotation lag is super real.

All restricted dungeons is just a bizarre choice is all.

[Janitor Morgan]

So what's the consensus on Sha Wujing and Zhu Bajie? They seem almost really good, maybe. Zhu Bajie in particular seems possibly viable, since the Xuanzang she makes you bring at least has a white row and therefore sort of synergizes with Sun Wukong into a bizarre 4/9/0 white row team where the leads are incompatible with the rest of the team for some reason. I know white rows is a little lacking, but if you went with double row subs in your last two slots you could have seven, which seems like plenty with 9x attack, and you'd have a metric crapton of HP. And odds are you'd end up being skill lock immune, since you've got four with just the required cards. Recovery would probably blow, but Xuanzang helps with that occasionally. It looks kind of maybe viable to me on paper.

Supposedly a ZB/LXuanzang/Wukong/Awoken Venus/Zeus & Hera/ZB team was able to clear Ultimate Arena, but I'm not sure where I'd find proof that it wasn't a cheat win: https://i.imgur.com/erx8sas.jpg

[triangles]

Fucking finally.
protip: don't try to LKali a descend first thing in the morning.  Or before looking up the dungeon and seeing what monsters have one-shot moves if you don't smack them down first.  This took way longer than it had any right to.

[Jq1790]

Fucking finally.
protip: don't try to LKali a descend first thing in the morning.  Or before looking up the dungeon and seeing what monsters have one-shot moves if you don't smack them down first.  This took way longer than it had any right to.

^5

I need to go bash his skull in before the dungeon leaves since 1 I've never beaten it and 2 I need like fifty million fire jewels.

[trancehime]

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/641458229071876098/photo/1 This is for you Suikama.

UVO Nut art

[commandercool]

Supposedly a ZB/LXuanzang/Wukong/Awoken Venus/Zeus & Hera/ZB team was able to clear Ultimate Arena, but I'm not sure where I'd find proof that it wasn't a cheat win: https://i.imgur.com/erx8sas.jpg

Cool... 4/6 farmable subs. Yeah, I'm getting pretty excited about this team's potential.

I've got Sun Wukong and Apollo, but I couldn't figure anything out for the last slot... Until I noticed that semi-dud pull of Fuu I got with my last few stones on the last godfest. She's got a row, decent recovery to be multiplied, and that last skill lock resist I'm missing. Sticker girl life!

Also, what's a cheat win? Is there some kind of exploit in that dungeon that people use to cheat? Or just a general exploit? I know I've been accidentally reset to earlier floors in a dungeon, so I've assumed since then that there's probably some kind of way to take advantage of that by popping out your battery at exactly the right moment or some shady shit. Is that the kind of thing you're thinking?

[Janitor Morgan]

Also, what's a cheat win? Is there some kind of exploit in that dungeon that people use to cheat? Or just a general exploit? I know I've been accidentally reset to earlier floors in a dungeon, so I've assumed since then that there's probably some kind of way to take advantage of that by popping out your battery at exactly the right moment or some shady shit. Is that the kind of thing you're thinking?

Savestates, basically. There was also a person (who supposedly got arrested for this) who was distributing PAD JP hacking tools.

Ultimate Arena is one of those dungeons where it'd be really lucrative to do that, so if the Zhu Bajie team is a legit one I'm extremely impressed.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Since it hasn't been mentioned in here yet:

Ult Osiris: G/G, God/Balanced, +100HP/50ATK/50RCV to 3090/1467/358, now has double TPA, FOUR wood orb enhances, and a time extend as awakes (to be specific, he gained a TPA and two OE). No LS change. Not super ideal, but I can work with it.
(I'm totally thinking Osiris/A.Meimei/A.Parv/Liu Bei/flex/Osiris as a team-- where everyone has double TPA or more, and there's 12-14 OE in it depending on the flex slot. With 10 OE alone it essentially works as if everyone has an extra TPA to work with, so that's cool.)

Ult Ame no Uzume: R/B, God/Balanced, 3145/1325/501, is now bindproof and has a skill boost. LS is the same as non-ult AmeUzu, not the one God/Attacker AmeUzu has. But who cares about that, fire finally has a fucking bindproof bind clearer and she does it really fucking well (while boosting RCV too!). I finally have a reason to work on her after all this time.

[Mr. Sacchi]

No skill lock resist for Osiris?

Well, can't have everything I guess. Still, the four orb enhances will be great for my eventual Vishnu team, and since he has double TPA he inevitably deals more damage than Leeza so I guess I'll only use her when I'm scared of skill locks.

[trancehime]

But who cares about that, fire finally has a fucking bindproof bind clearer and she does it really fucking well (while boosting RCV too!). I finally have a reason to work on her after all this time.

RIP Rozuel

[Dorakyura]

Technically no, he wouldn't be. He'd have to swap out one of the Andromedas or Reine and keep DKali, since he wouldn't be able to activate Isis' LS with Isis and Karin alone. Gotta have three colors!

Clearly he wants spliult Hermes aswell  :ohdear:

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/641458229071876098/photo/1 This is for you Suikama.

UVO Nut art

Pretty neat, She is Blue/Dark?

edit:
Well, she is Blue/Blue
Good damnit, 2 TPA and 4 OE, on both.

Neph with 4 dark OE would be neat. Her ability makes is so much better aswell.

[The Greatest Dog]

Thank you Susabro and Light Bro Liang and Amaterbrosu for helping a team with no RCV boosts survive ~*~14~*~ turns against Zeus Vulcan.

[Thaws]

Aww I wanted rows nut
Now she's just an inferior osiris but easier to use.

[Suikama]

I think they designed her to be a Sarasvati sub. Shitton of orb+ to go with the increase water orb drop rate active and +orb bonus activation of Sara

e: FUCK ZEUS

oh my god the constant board fuckery makes it impossible to burst outside of turn 1 which isnt possible because my actives are always used up and if only i had hermes fuckk

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Aww I wanted rows nut
Now she's just an inferior osiris but easier to use.

I think she has one advantage in the fact that there are a few semi-easy-to-farm subs she can throw in for OE stacking and quick enhances like Amberjack (3) and ult Hera-Is (2), and Ult Starling (2), and Ars Paulina (2) as well as beach!Hera-Is (3). And if you have Skuld, Isis, or UmiYama, you've kind of got it made. Thus, she's more REM-friendly than Osiris is in that most of his stackable OE subs are REM only. Osiris definitely has the punchier set though with a ton of double TPA subs.

Consider:
Nut (4)/Amberjack (3)/Hera-Is (2) or Ars Paulina (2)/Isis (2)/Skuld or Starling (2)/Nut (4)

There's 17 OE there, or an unconditional 85% damage boost for enhanced water orbs. The only thing you've really got to worry about with a team like that is skill bind. It's insanely bulky, and while your RCV will be kind of low, the LS will kind of help with that. Amberjack and Skuld can make hearts and Isis can clear binds. Hera-is/Paulina can act as fast enhancers, too!

And that's just considering taking advantage of her OEs. You can still totally run with Big Blue Subs and just kinda brush off everything. :p

[aUsernameIsFineToo]

Ult Ame no Uzume: R/B

Well... I was going to evolve her to the R/R variant, but I guess I'm going to wait 'till this comes to NA. Multi-attributes are always useful, and most of my fire team is R/B anyway.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

There's really no need to make the R/R variant unless you're leading with her or you specifically need Attackers, since her only outstanding point really is her leader skill there. If you're running her as a sub, R/B is better in pretty much every way.

[Jq1790]

Well... I was going to evolve her to the R/R variant, but I guess I'm going to wait 'till this comes to NA. Multi-attributes are always useful, and most of my fire team is R/B anyway.

She also works well with friend Urds(normal, the R/B one as opposed to the B/R beach variant), so try it out!  Urd gives HP/RCV to water attributes, which is great.

[Janitor Morgan]

So I gained an unexpected friend today and he helped me finish what I'd started.

[trancehime]

Kinda wishing Grimoires would come back again so I can get  Theurgia and make Awoken Shiva to replace Awoken Kagutsuchi for the team.

[The Greatest Dog]

I want 43 stones... :c

Godfest is announced. Heroes + JP1, then Indian1 + Egyptian 2.

Hmm. Should I really roll, though..?

[trancehime]

I want 43 stones... :c

I IAP so don't feel bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQPDCmTAdGc paging suikama

[aUsernameIsFineToo]

>7 stones

I'll probably yoloroll for a Yomi , though I'm sure I won't get it.

[commandercool]

Godfest is announced. Heroes + JP1, then Indian1 + Egyptian 2.

Hmm. Should I really roll, though..?

Oh man, before I can even rebuild I already have to throw all my stones away to not get Andro.

I have all of the JP1s except Yomi and Amaterasu, but I would be okay with a second Susano. Not my first choice for pairing with Heroes, but not bad at all either.

I should be able to do four pulls for sure, conceivably five but that would require me to waste too much time that I could be spending farming for cao cao skillups. And I guess Muse skillups while I'm doing that.

Edit: Wow never mind, I thought I had a lot more stones than I do. Three pulls it is.

[Suikama]

I IAP so don't feel bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQPDCmTAdGc paging suikama

uh i posted this a few days ago

i think you even commented on it :V

[trancehime]

i think you even commented on it :V

I didn't comment on it. Or maybe I did, but I didn't even click the link, I assumed it was a video of the Awilda clear.

Chaore told me you posted it but I'm too lazy to fix it.