Miscelleneous Touhou thoughts and commentary.

[Drake]

That's exactly what I mean; I just find it funny how much we miss out on due to unawareness or other reasons, especially in the times before many people started caring somewhat about these things.


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An old interview from just after when MoF was released got put on the wiki relatively recently, and I finally found the time I get that translated: http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Chara%E2%98%86Mel/Mountain_of_Faith_interview_with_ZUN

[Prime32]

Can someone take a look over this? It looks like a really good intro to the setting, but it seems to have been machine-translated.

In terms of the current basis, in the up-to-date definition, whether or not Gensokyo is in or out of the barrier, it all boils down to one point. The fact that "the outside world and the inner world" is a truth that will never change Gensokyo.

[Chirumiru-chan]

Koakuma and Patchouli were going to be in PCB? Were they just leftover sprites from EoSD?

Anyway, the EoSD stage 1 enemy we think is Rin is actually Rumia. Yeah...

[Drake]

They were leftovers, yes. PCB and IN were just built on top of EoSD and it's no surprise that there are quite a few remnants.
People stopped thinking the extra EoSD sprites were Rin a while ago, too (at least I hope so).

[Clarste]

I dunno, people really like to cling to this weird fantasy of the "secret character" who ZUN's never revealed. Rather than the more mundane and likely "half-baked idea that never went anywhere, just like a billion other things ZUN never did."

To be fair, it's not just ZUN. I think it's a more general fantasy about how development or any creative process works. They don't see the discarded ideas, especially the ones that weren't even written down, so anything they do catch a glimpse of feels far closer to being "true" than it really should be.

[Toushiro Scarlet]

Gonna politely ask that this not become a second version of the Misc Questions thread, which we already have. "Thoughts and commentary" can include questions, but those are more of a speculative, no-definitive-answer nature. If it's a question that has a specific answer, go ahead and ask it in the stickied thread.

Anyways.

I've been thinking a lot about how ZUN manages fatherhood and Touhou Project. Admittedly I have no idea where or even if his wife works, so maybe they're both stay-at-home parents. But even so, those first couple years are pretty intense in terms of energy and attention requirements. This was part of the reason why LoLK impressed me so much - he keeps topping himself, more or less, despite these incredibly demanding new circumstances.

I dunno, maybe he lucked out and got one of those mythical Babies Who Sleep All The Time.

It's quite possible that Yukari somehow helps him.

[the old guy]

It's quite possible that Yukari somehow helps him.

Yukari's kind of an dick, she probably hates children if her interactions with Chen are anything to go by.

[Toushiro Scarlet]

It will likely remain as big as now.. Given that ZUN wasn't dead (Very likely that Yukari won't let him die)

[PCalibre]

Am I the only one who finds the whistle in Mystia's theme a bit... Weird?

It's obvious - the most logical explanation can be linked to her ability and what yuuka and Eiki have to say about her in PoFL. 

"The song isn't coming from inside you, but rather you're singing a song you're hearing from a faint voice." - Yuuka

"If you continue singing without thinking, the souls around you will become more than strange."  - Eiki

"That may be connected to an unprecedented grave sin." - Eiki

In short.... Mystia Lorelei is a herald of Azathoth - The Nuclear Chaos, The Daemon Sultan, The Blind Idiot God.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azathoth

A god of madness from beyond time and space, who sits in the center of all chaos, pulsing to an unceasing, insane song of pipes and drums.

I've always thought that Mystia has a bit more to her than is revealed, though whether or not I'd actually turn to H.P. Lovecraft to satisfy that feeling... it definitely makes for an interesting concept, however.

[Hannibal_Kills]

Imagine a National Geographic series of Gensokyo.

[the old guy]

In short.... Mystia Lorelei is a herald of Azathoth - The Nuclear Chaos, The Daemon Sultan, The Blind Idiot God.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azathoth

A god of madness from beyond time and space, who sits in the center of all chaos, pulsing to an unceasing, insane song of pipes and drums.

Yeah i can get behind this. As i have a similar theory that Yukari Yakumo is an Avatar of Yog-Sothoth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yog-Sothoth

Basically Yog-Sothoth is the outer god of time and space, he/it(?) is paradoxically called the "Gate and the Key", it is also referred to as being the "All-in-One and One-in-All", it is coterminous over the universe. But at the same time is locked out of it.

Since Yukari moderates the border between Gensokyo and the Outside World, it would not be too hard to make an connection between her power to control the borders and Yog-Sothoth's reign over all of space and time. Also their names both start with the letter Y. However it is somewhat dampened by how Yog is locked outside of the universe, but that be easily explained by assuming that Yukari is an entity that was once part of yog-sothoth, But then split off for what ever reason.

Actually ,let Fightest, a very smart user who sadly disappeared one day for no reason, explain it for me:

I'd have an easier time fitting her to Yog-Sothoth, the Gate and the Key, who is present everywhere and serves as a conduit for all energy in the universe, much like Yukari and her ability to go anywhere, and tendency to take things with her - she is, from what I can recall, the main reason for unusual things appearing in Gensokyo.

So yeah, i can get behind Mystia being an herald of Azathoth.

[TableCloth]

Also their names both start with the letter Y.

That's kinda stretching it. Yukari's name started with the kanji "Ya" (or "Yukari", depending on which naming system you use).

Other than that, I have no word.

[the old guy]

True.

Forget I said it then.

[N-Forza]

http://blog.livedoor.jp/tohomemory/archives/47742864.html

A little too busy to give a full translation, but the gist of it is someone found a connection between the ancient Fujiwara clan and the Usami family.

In addition to possibly explaining why Mokou and Sumireko get along so well, it also places Renko's comment in Magical Astronomy about willingly taking an immortality elixir in a new light.

[Drake]

this is actually completely ridiculous

[N-Forza]

no u

[Drake]

shit

[Shiina Tamai]

Hong Meiling, with her red hair and light-blue eyes, actually looks similar to the Tarim Mummies and how the people known today as "Tocharians" are said to have looked. Perhaps she is related in some ways to these people.

Achi (Fire) Cirno isn't the opposite of Cirno. I would think that since ice is water in a solid form, then her opposite would either be Mizu Cirno or a hypothetical Steam Cirno or even Plasma Cirno.

[Hello Purvis]

Anticirno would be composed of any or all of the following: cured meats, olives, peperoncini, mushrooms, anchovies, artichoke hearts, various cheeses (such as provolone or mozzarella), pickled meats,  vegetables in oil or vinegar. You would face her before facing Cirno, traditionally.

[Hannibal_Kills]

I want to ask: Of all the Touhou characters in various official outfit variants, who will make the least attention when taking a stroll at the Outside World?

[MANoBadAssGar Jr.]

I want to ask: Of all the Touhou characters in various official outfit variants, who will make the least attention when taking a stroll at the Outside World?

Just the outfit, or include the characteristic of the person itself? e.g. nue wing

If just outfit then, they would have easier time blending in compared the other :
Aya, i guess?
Yuuka Kazami
Raiko
Murasa
Reisen
Daiyousei
Koakuma
Waggyhime on wheelchair & cover her leg
Rumia
Akkyu
Nitori (When it's Rainstorm.......)
Mystia & Kyouko in choujuu gigaku outfit
And Hecatia (lol)

At least people wont think they're cosplaying weird, and just dressing up. This also if they hide their "Otherwordly" characteristic e.g. Aya ear, Mystia wing, Yuuka green hair
Otherwise it would be Murasa & Rumia

[the old guy]

Meiling and Sakuya could as well.

[Prime32]

I want to ask: Of all the Touhou characters in various official outfit variants, who will make the least attention when taking a stroll at the Outside World?

I'm going to say Marisa in one of her outfits from WaHH. She doesn't even wear a witch hat all the time.

Yukari had that one summer dress in WaHH too. The hat is still a little strange, but not as much as Marisa's.

Reisen would draw attention mainly for her hair and ears, but she'd know to hide those anyway.

Saying Sumireko is cheating, right?

[Tengukami]

Aya would do quite well.

In fact I'm pretty sure any human-looking Gensokyan who doesn't have horns, a long tail, giant wings or whatever could put on some standard Abercrombie and blend right in in the west anyway.

[Hello Purvis]

Heck, smart wardrobe choices would allow for the most of the rest.

[Clarste]

Aya would do quite well.

In fact I'm pretty sure any human-looking Gensokyan who doesn't have horns, a long tail, giant wings or whatever could put on some standard Abercrombie and blend right in in the west anyway.

I'm pretty sure we were simply talking about costume design. IE: Which outfits would be considered the most normal in the outside world.

[andykhang]

Hm...Reimu should be barely pass as cosplay in the outside world. Kinda ironic that she's probably the most traditional Miko, in some sense. Tenshi and Iku should be able to pass too, as some sort of some rich guy's daughter and bodyguard, and Hijirin should also pass if she is in her MotoJesus mode...

[TableCloth]

So, according to PoFV, Medicine is the true NEET.

My whole fandom experience is a lie  :V

I want to ask: Of all the Touhou characters in various official outfit variants, who will make the least attention when taking a stroll at the Outside World?

Sumireko, Maribel and Renko.

Definitely Koishi, because subconscious hax lol.

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[Hope ♦ Metal]

I want to ask: Of all the Touhou characters in various official outfit variants, who will make the least attention when taking a stroll at the Outside World?

Orin in her cat form.  :V

[Clarste]

Orin in her cat form.  :V

Two tails is pretty noticeable.