Puzzle and Dragons Thread 20 - The thread is now Xuanzang, 20 posts or less only

[trancehime]

i dont think i will ever beat hera rush because I CANNOT FUCKING BEAT HERA BEORC EVER

WHO MADE THIS DUNGEON

WHY IS IT IMPOSSIBLE

IM EVEN TRYING "OP TEAMS" LIKE ANDROMEDA NOPE STILL IMPOSSIBLE

What's your Andromeda team? It should be doable with Andromeda if you have a damage shield for Divine Queen Hera at the very least.

[Suikama]

lol I haven't even tried legend+ yet because hera beorc

Used Andro, Skuld, Nut, Reine, Isis, Adro vs beorc

I died to friggin alraune becuase she kills heart orbs every turn so I had nothing to orb change since Nut was used and nothing else came up until the exact turn i died

so yeah it was my fault for being dumb and not just killing al asap but bluh i dunno i dont use these teams <_>

[hyorinryu]

Do you have any non blue teams. Like maybe a green one? that might make things a bit easier.

[OverlordChirei]

I died to friggin alraune

[Suikama]

okay got new team set up that works perfectly

except this time i just got straight up heart orb trolled while trying to stall out the skill bind vs hera

can this dungeon be any more bs

[trancehime]

okay got new team set up that works perfectly

except this time i just got straight up heart orb trolled while trying to stall out the skill bind vs hera

can this dungeon be any more bs

If your Skuld was max-awoken you'd have 100% SBR against Leviathan, wouldn't you?

[Suikama]

I'm sticking to Isis though :V

I only tried andro once because a +297 one showed up on my friends list

[The Greatest Dog]

Ariel+Athena has been taking on Sandalphon handily. I can even field Susano to premptively tank the preemptive skill bind, and by the time the damage reduction wears out, Amaterasu will be up to cure the ten turn bind if it hits.

Leilan>Ariel>Athena makes for really good bursting.

[Chaore]

so i think i'm just gonna replace shiva entirely with takeru

he does everything shiva did ultimately better

[commandercool]

so i think i'm just gonna replace shiva entirely with takeru

he does everything shiva did ultimately better

That tracks. Do you sub Shiva on Takeru? Seems like they would work well together.

[hyorinryu]

That tracks. Do you sub Shiva on Takeru? Seems like they would work well together.

In most cases, probably not, unless he wanted to use the +eggs. Heroes want mostly orbchangers on teams. Even on Perseus who's low on rows, I can put put a little less than 4 mil with only orbchangers. If he wants to to oneshot Satan someone beefy with a water subtype, He'd probably want to use Freyr instead because he'll give a bigger boost on a short cooldown that lasts for more than one turn.

[Chaore]

That tracks. Do you sub Shiva on Takeru? Seems like they would work well together.

The only time I've considered it is for things without wood orbs where belial is functionally useless (and gold keeper, because with both freyr and shiva it's simple to one shot him and the plus eggs help)

Shiva, Freyr, and Takeru on a Suzaku board (with any orb changes) is insanely strong, but complete overkill. And by Complete overkill, I mean, 12 mil overkill. With just freyr I can hit 6 mil regularly on the same (Though, I could consider swapping Freyr for Shiva. The plus eggs might work better, and you don't ever need the 3 turn boost).

Sooo yeah Shiva became useless, 245 + eggs later. Thanks, gungho! I should be used to this, it happens to most of my mains.

Meanwhile, bastet gets reworked at the slightest sign of not being bastet.

[OverlordChirei]

I have no idea why I didn't consider this earlier. Suddenly I'm very, very glad I got Aquaman from DC. I knew he'd be useful one day!

[commandercool]

Hmm. Got Star Vault 14 hours from now, a full stamina bar, and Izanami is up. Maybe I can beat Mythical outside of challenge rush and collect that sto-

Nope, dead instantly. Ugh. :wat:

I can't remember exactly which configuration of my team I used to do this. There's definitely some version that does it, but I can't remember if it's Siren instead of Beyzul, or Metatron instead of I&I, or both. Either way, I don't know how to play blind and it sucks. Making rows blind sucks.

The only time I've considered it is for things without wood orbs where belial is functionally useless (and gold keeper, because with both freyr and shiva it's simple to one shot him and the plus eggs help)

Shiva, Freyr, and Takeru on a Suzaku board (with any orb changes) is insanely strong, but complete overkill. And by Complete overkill, I mean, 12 mil overkill. With just freyr I can hit 6 mil regularly on the same (Though, I could consider swapping Freyr for Shiva. The plus eggs might work better, and you don't ever need the 3 turn boost).

Sooo yeah Shiva became useless, 245 + eggs later. Thanks, gungho! I should be used to this, it happens to most of my mains.

Meanwhile, bastet gets reworked at the slightest sign of not being bastet.

Okay, neat. I mean, not neat that you have to dump your lead, but thanks for the info neat.  That makes sense.

[Edible]

Pad KR is getting the ragnarok collab in their upcoming event.

... Where's ours? <_<

Oh right we got it last month, I just forgot about it already because it's so pointless ;_;

[Mr. Sacchi]

Pad KR is getting the ragnarok collab in their upcoming event.

... Where's ours? <_<

They'll announce it in a little bit... if they don't, it's probably because Ragnarok is quite literally dead in the west (and pretty close to dead in the east, but not quite as much).

[Suikama]

i finally did it

Isis, Echidna, Chester, Nut, U&Y

Waters for bursting

Chester for 60% levi fuck you

Echidna for avoiding jupiter stupidness

[Pesco]

i finally did it

Isis, Echidna, Chester, Nut, U&Y

Waters for bursting

Chester for 60% levi fuck you

Echidna for avoiding jupiter stupidness

The one Chester gives me hope

[MatsuriSakuragi]

ye
took you long enough jeez

After star vault and challenge descended 3, I'll have all of the woodpy and +egg needed to hypermax Parvati~

[The Greatest Dog]

mfw when I'm asking for Ariel friends and everyone is all "what the fuck are you using Ariel for?"

Hell, I'd even settle for ArielxLeilan or ArielxAthena or something but everyone is questioning my choice to drop pys on her.

Power creep may not be the case for Archangels v2 but it's still -really good-. :c

(I'm really just looking for another reason to field Big Dog again.)

[OverlordChirei]

ye

o yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

mfw when I'm asking for Ariel friends and everyone is all "what the fuck are you using Ariel for?"

whats wrong with using Ariel? I thought she was supposed to be lead-capable anyway.

[The Greatest Dog]

I -really- like the thought of two max skilled Ariels as leads because that's a free guaranteed light TPA available every two turns. The simple fact that Athena exists and gets the full 14x boost from all those TPAs is like <3

You can use the full board changes from Superman/Awoken Meimei/Leilan and -usually- get at least two light TPAs by default but you can also drop an Ariel active to guarantee even more. Attacker Thor may not be TPA based but that three turn enhance is still strong. If you're going with Meimei or Suzaku you can even field GZL for an attacker enhance because you still get green orbs out of the deal.

The biggest stigma I've come across is "oh it's an archangel v2 it's garbage." It's pretty hard to convince people to use them when they usually have every other possible leader. :/

[commandercool]

As a huge fan of archangels 1.0, yes. I understand your trouble. I'm lucky that at least archangels 1.0 don't tend to want to pair up outsider of Luci, and he's actually popular so it's not a problem for him.

You'd think with the sheet number of people who play this game there wouldn't be lead-quality monsters that are just completely ignored, but there are.

[Edible]

I will never understand why more people didn't get excited about angel 2.0s.  They're all fantastic and I would have legitimate uses for all of them, some in multiple teams.

[The Greatest Dog]

Case in point: one of my friends was running an Amenouzume team with Ares, Nym, Suzaku and Dino Rider/Mitsuki but Ameno is almost interchangeable with the Rozuel he pulled.  Rozuel has an even higher attack multiplier and no chance of the cleric being bound alongside everyone else compared to Ameno. He wouldn't have given it a run without me saying, "Hey this team is really good and I think you should give it a run."

Famiel is a bit odd but can still row it up with Gabriel and Reine. Lumiel has bunches of applications being that coveted dark devil. The only oddball is Ruel but you still have things like DevilMeimeiCry and Astaroth+Cauchemar, Ceres, Parvati.

[triangles]

The only oddball is Ruel but you still have things like DevilMeimeiCry and Astaroth+Cauchemar, Ceres, Parvati.

Lucky for me I have or soon will have all but Genbu and then the party starts :V

[OverlordChirei]

I'm not sure why people are ragging on possible 14x. I wonder if it's because people are just too stuck in their ways/too put off by how specific their subs are/deterred by their obvious flaws.

You'd think with the sheet number of people who play this game there wouldn't be lead-quality monsters that are just completely ignored, but there are.

Spoiler:

All these cool leads are ignored because a lot of the people that play this game ARE sheet OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[hyorinryu]

If you can get the subs for it, you're good. Think that's the biggest thing tbh. Most of the popular leads have easy to get subs. Personally, I've never been too crazy about "randomly generate x orbs though." Feel like that not going to kill anything cool. I think I need like 9 light orbs to kill the dudes in Zeus Merc with Kirin.

[commandercool]

Spoiler:

All these cool leads are ignored because a lot of the people that play this game ARE sheet OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Usually when I post on my phone and I notice a tiny-keyboard-induced typo I go back and edit it, but I figured I'd let it ride this time. How wrong I was.😑

That said, OHHHHHHHHHHH!

[Edible]

I'm not going to bash my head against beorc with this team anymore until I get blodin's ult evo.