Thanks for the reply, Sky (heh, rhyming)! It was sooooo elucidating. Anyways, since you don't seem to be on at the moment and my chronic insomnia (or just poor sleep schedule, take your pick) is rearing its ugly head again, let's get through with casing you two once and for all. Again, I would really appreciate those replies still but considering we're pretty much cutting it to the wire as is, I'll have to go without them for now. That being said, let's do this. It's hero time.
Sky Paladin
Sky, I'm not going to mince words with you here, but your Day 1 sucks. You tunneled on Serela for the entirety of it (with your reasoning being primarily based on her claiming scum in RVS and her responses to your earlier vote, which is an effortless case to make as scum), which looks really bad on you now considering that she's confirmed town. What gets me is that you even admitted in one of your earlier posts that you weren't really paying attention to Serela's other content. However, in your defense...your defense from Dr. Rawr reads as super genuine (and I'm not sure why he'd immediately go for the bus on you as scum on D1 (more rhyming!), considering scum basically always loses after a D1 scum lynch), which is ~a thing~ in favor of Sky Town. Anyways, your later list post was very good overall, so consider it the exception to the rule of your D1 sucking. Your final vote was on Dormio, which isn't really particularly noteworthy considering you cased him earlier that day (for sheeping Dr. Rawr's scumread on you).
You didn't really do much on Day 2, all things considered; however, what little content you did put out was fine. Particularly telling points from your wall post are where you said that you'd rather keep NNR over Dr. Rawr, especially considering that Dr. Rawr had attempted to counter wagon him by that point. Serela tunnel is still annoying but at least you actually took the effort to analyze her actual cases and content this time around, which is good. Additionally, you expanded on your BT case, which is also good because I'd expected you to have dropped it as scum by now considering that you were already supporting a lynch on Dr. Rawr. Your final vote of the day was on Elieson, worst associative read ever.
Day 3 content is fine...for the most part, but there's not really much that's particularly telling (considering a lot of it is spent explaining your vote on Elieson, which is hard to read into now because the dude hasn't flipped yet) besides you explaining why you'd lynch Elieson over Zak (as scum, it'd make more sense for you to support the Zak wagon that day and continue the Elieson tunnel the next, especially considering that Zak was an easy mislynch at the time). You ended your vote on Elieson again, brill.
Finally on Day 4. Your suggestion of lynching one of NNR/O4rfish so that they can vig the other is horrible considering that you were townreading NNR for being the counterwagon to Dr. Rawr earlier. Why would you ever want a townread shot? Reversal on the earlier BT scumread is bad as well, especially considering that none of the flips really pointed towards him being town (so I don't understand the reasoning behind this). Don't like your attitude towards Shadoweh as well, because it's a chainsaw defense of BT. Like...what did she actually do that was scummy? Although...I don't see why you'd push Serela over O4rfish late into the day as scum, considering that Serela was far more likely to shoot BT (not to mention that it doesn't make sense for you to jump off a town wagon as scum only to...jump onto another town wagon, moments before deadline). You did end up contributing to the BT lynch at the end, which is good.
Let's talk about your Day 5 content! Wait, fuck all happened on Day 5 nevermind...moving on to Day 6.
I've already commented on my issues with your Day 6 content, but that being said, I don't really get why Scum!You would intentionally choose to case me over Elieson. I'm a much harder mislynch than Elieson (especially considering that he was townreading me on the previous day), and if you were planning on tunneling on me, killing Elieson over NNR would have served your purposes far better (basically the only way I can see you in the current scenario as scum is if you made a mistake when you sent in your kill). Still would like for you to respond to my issues with your posts today because I did end up ISOing myself (desperate times call for desperate measures) and like...I'm obvious town as fuck? There's so much stuff that you'd never catch me dead saying as scum in years.
Elieson
Dude, you tunneled as much as Sky did on D1. Wonderful. However, yours isn't nearly as bad as his because Sky isn't confirmed town like Serela and your initial reasoning was based on his actual content in lieu of tunneling over a minor issue. A notable point in your favor is that you had minor scumreads on both (!) of the flipped scum, which is good for obvious reasons. My only problem with this is that you barely mentioned anyone else, which leads me to believe that you hadn't been reading the game past Sky's responses to you at that point in time. But in that case, why mention BT/Dr. Rawr at all? It reads as you padding your content with something that you wouldn't be called out for later, especially considering that you never actually follow up on either of these reads (you drop both of them on D2 and D3 respectively, and your D2 scumread on BT doesn't even take your case on him here into mind). I will admit that I overinflated the scum intent of your ED1 content (reading your ISO, it wasn't nearly as bad as I made it out to be), and I apologize for that. Anyways, you later analyzed Sky's posts (whereas earlier your case was based solely on his ED1 content), which is good. You end the day with your vote on Sky Paladin, which is amazing for associative reads!...No wait, actually it's awful. Thanks for nothing.
Your Day 2 starts with you voting BT for a trivial reason, and...I'm not sure if you'd actually do this as scum? Surely you'd have more legitimate reasons to vote your scumbuddy. Regardless, you don't really do much until the end of the phase, wherein you promptly thrust out a huge wall post. I really don't like how you even mentioned that you would self vote, because FYPOV you are confirmed town and self voting would be akin to throwing the game. Your confidence in your BT read is townie, but in the same post you townread Dr. Rawr because..."FWIW, I think Rawr's townie in that he's advocating understanding behind the whole "No Lynch" thing, which I agree with"...how is that townie at all? Reads as you trying to get the heat off of your scumbuddy without committing to a scumread on NNR (which would look super bad after they both flipped, and basically make you confirmed scum). You end the day with your vote on Sky Paladin again, which isn't the worst thing ever and is in accordance with your earlier reads, so it's a null tell.
Day 3 begins with another wall post from you, whoo boy. I don't like how you say there are zero clears right after a scum lynch; the associative reads to clear several townies were there and I don't like how you intentionally ignored the opportunity to do so (reminds me of how I basically do the same thing as scum to avoid getting PoE'd later on). Not really bothered by your scumread on Zak (although there are signs of mixed priorities here, considering you mentioned that Zak was an upper tier scumread and yet you voted me over him), considering flipped town basically had the same reads themselves. It's a null tell. The BT turnaround is pretty much the most revealing post you could have made, considering that you 180'd on him right after the other scum (Dr. Rawr) flipped; it's just so obviously opportunistic, I don't even. Like, I can buy a BT turnaround from town. What I find harder to swallow is that you'd be bothered by both of the flipped scum on D1, scumread one of them on D2 while townreading the one who was actually under fire (because you took another look at him), and then finally 180 on the scumread you were pushing on D2 because you...took another look on him, of course. Seriously, going to invoke Occam's Razor here and say the chances of you fucking up this badly as town is nil. Don't like your case on me, but I've already talked about that enough as is and I'm sick of defending myself. Later on, you retroactively justify your townread on Dr. Rawr, which is fine (nothing really telling to be found here). I do like your ISO of Sky, though. Your later vote on Zak reads as a chainsaw defense of BT (since a portion of your case on him was calling him out for having a bad case on BT), which wouldn't be nearly as telling if not for the fact that you were scumreading BT earlier yourself (before the 180). Your response to me is good (and I agree that my earlier case on you wasn't great) FWIW. Final vote is on Zak, which isn't really telling because it's the vote I'd expect you to make regardless of alignment.
On Day 4, you again do a chainsaw defense of BT (how are you so confident that BT is town?), except this time with Shadoweh instead of Zak. Your vote on her is scummy because you're pretty much casing her for bad play over actual scum intent. Your later reads post is mostly good, but again you're holding onto your Shadoweh vote for the sake of it even though it wasn't your strongest read at the time.
Nice Day 5, bro.
It's cool that you townread me on Day 6 (and previously on Day 5 as well), but that makes the turnaround on me today all the more baffling. For being your strongest townread, you sure were quick to say "actually yeah, Sky's right after all and Refa is scum". It's not the turnaround itself that bothers me here, but rather how quickly you made it without much apparent conflict? Like, if my strongest townread was being scumread, I'd be a hella lot more conflicted than you appear to be. But OK, let's say Sky's case is pretty much the best there ever was and that I was obvious scum. This still makes your later waffle on me bad because you're subtly pushing for my mislynch without committing to a scumread on me. BTW, the reason I wanted more responses (specifically, after my replies to Sky) were that I'd expect you to have a more definite read on me as town. Not more waffles.
Conclusion
Definitely leaning Scum Elie after these ISO's. While some of Sky's content is pretty scummy (in particular, most of his D1 content and his willingness to lynch/vig NNR despite townreading the slot on Day 4), upon a reread he does indeed have much better associative reads than Elieson. Like wow, after doing a comprehensive read of Elieson's content after BT's flip, it's like...how did some of this stuff ever get past me? He basically townread scum on days when they were viable wagons and scumread them when they weren't...I just can't see town playing like that ever.
