Author Topic: Sakuya vs Dio (Screwattack's One Minute Melee) (Read 14130 times)

Lishy1 · « **on:** March 02, 2015, 07:13:14 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYD1FUdB0bc

So, Screwattack finally acknolwedged the existence of Touhou.

All I can say, is that this is some good, ol' fashioned Touhou hijack, like the glory days.

Expecting to see the Touhou fanbase spike, as thousands of people ask "where is that character from?"

Ps. #TeamSakuya

Fastest Thing Alive · « **Reply #1 on:** March 02, 2015, 07:28:24 PM »

I already saw several "Who?"s in the comments just half an hour after the video came out so people who have no idea about thrm are certainly seeing it. Of course most of those who watch/read JoJo's are throwing a hissy fit in the comments.

Does anyone know if the version of Flowering Nights used at the end was made by them or taken from somewhere?

Spotty Len · « **Reply #2 on:** March 02, 2015, 07:42:32 PM »

The fight was satisfying, the animation was good all around, that's a good job. Cheating the time limit was a fun touch.

Ha, suck it Dio!

Quote from: Fastest Thing Alive on March 02, 2015, 07:28:24 PM

I already saw several "Who?"s in the comments just half an hour after the video came out so people who have no idea about thrm are certainly seeing it.

Never read Youtube comments on popular videos. Nothing good can come from them.

CyberAngel · « **Reply #3 on:** March 02, 2015, 08:45:04 PM »

Quote from: Fastest Thing Alive on March 02, 2015, 07:28:24 PM

Of course most of those who watch/read JoJo's are throwing a hissy fit in the comments.

Funny, since Touhou fans (and Sakuya fans in particular) are pretty much JoJo fans as well by default.

Romantique Tp · « **Reply #4 on:** March 02, 2015, 09:48:20 PM »

But not the other way around.

Aquila · « **Reply #5 on:** March 03, 2015, 01:25:55 AM »

I'm glad you guys enjoyed it :'D

MetalStudios · « **Reply #6 on:** March 03, 2015, 02:08:17 AM »

I'm actually quite fond of the outcome of this battle, being the raving Jojo fanboy that I am
Since no research was done for this that must mean that they were quite familiar with Touhou to begin with, which I'm 100% fine with

Aquila · « **Reply #7 on:** March 03, 2015, 02:54:37 AM »

Nah, Screwattack had nothing to do with the outcome/scripting, that was all me.

They didn't even bother to mention where Sakuya came from despite mentioning Dio coming from Jojo D':

Sedrife · « **Reply #8 on:** March 03, 2015, 03:57:56 AM »

Quote from: Aquila on March 03, 2015, 02:54:37 AM

Nah, Screwattack had nothing to do with the outcome/scripting, that was all me.

They didn't even bother to mention where Sakuya came from despite mentioning Dio coming from Jojo D':

Nice. Two thumbs up for brilliant work. You deserve more credit.

game2011 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 03, 2015, 04:01:36 AM »

Let's hope the "no research" thing doesn't mean "everyone in Touhou is unbeatable, so they win by default!"

I know Touhou characters are powerful, but I don't like it when people see them as godly and unbeatable...

Lishy1 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 03, 2015, 05:16:37 AM »

Quote from: game2011 on March 03, 2015, 04:01:36 AM

Let's hope the "no research" thing doesn't mean "everyone in Touhou is unbeatable, so they win by default!"

I know Touhou characters are powerful, but I don't like it when people see them as godly and unbeatable...

While not every Touhou character is Godly, Sakuya (along with Reimu and Marisa) is definitely one of the few characters to canonically be that powerful.

1. She nearly defeated the Youkai of Fate (Remilia), and becomes her servant.

2. Defeats the queen of the Netherworld (Yuyuko)

3. Almost beats the strongest Youkai in Gensokyo (Yukari)

4. Kills a bunch of Lunarian immortals

I'm not sure if PoFV and the fighting games are considered canon as a testament to Sakuya's strength, and I haven't played Touhou 14.

It's also worth noting that even in gameplay mechanics, Sakuya is part of the "God" tier. What Fox is to Super Smash Bros, Sakuya is to each and every Touhou fighting game, where she is consistently top tier.

Quote from: Aquila on March 03, 2015, 02:54:37 AM

Nah, Screwattack had nothing to do with the outcome/scripting, that was all me.

They didn't even bother to mention where Sakuya came from despite mentioning Dio coming from Jojo D':

Wow, the person who made this gold is a member of MoTK?

How did you convince Screwattack to feature your animation?

game2011 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 03, 2015, 05:24:04 AM »

Quote from: Lishy1 on March 03, 2015, 05:16:37 AM

2. Defeats the queen of the Netherworld (Yuyuko)

3. Almost beats the strongest Youkai in Gensokyo (Yukari)

4. Kills a bunch of Lunarian immortals

I'm not sure if PoFV and the fighting games are considered canon as a testament to Sakuya's strength, and I haven't played Touhou 14.

It's also worth noting that even in gameplay mechanics, Sakuya is part of the "God" tier. What Fox is to Super Smash Bros, Sakuya is to each and every Touhou fighting game, where she is consistently top tier.

2. Just because you can defeat Yuyuko as her in that game doesn't necessarily mean she is canonically the one who beat her. It's more likely that Reimu and Marisa are the ones who beat her. Plus, there are spell card rules that allow for both sides to have a winning chance.

3. See above. If Yukari doesn't hold back or follow the rules, I don't see Sakuya winning.

4. Never heard of this.

And gameplay mechanics ARE NOT valid proofs of how canonically powerful characters are, so Sakuya being high tiered in fighting games means nothing.

Lishy1 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 03, 2015, 05:25:48 AM »

Is there spell card rules versus Dio?

Also, what if this was a three-way that included Homura from Madoka?

Clarste · « **Reply #13 on:** March 03, 2015, 07:00:56 AM »

Quote from: game2011 on March 03, 2015, 05:24:04 AM

2. Just because you can defeat Yuyuko as her in that game doesn't necessarily mean she is canonically the one who beat her. It's more likely that Reimu and Marisa are the ones who beat her. Plus, there are spell card rules that allow for both sides to have a winning chance.

Also Yuyuko is a stage 1 boss whenever she feels like it. Gameplay means nothing.

Aquila · « **Reply #14 on:** March 03, 2015, 07:25:26 AM »

Quote from: Lishy1 on March 03, 2015, 05:16:37 AM

Wow, the person who made this gold is a member of MoTK?

How did you convince Screwattack to feature your animation?

I'm flattered

I was hired by the owner of the show; Mali (As you see on the title screen right after Screwattack's) after being recommended by the rest of the crew for my past animations and was offered a chance to show what I was made of. It actually took a little bit of convincing since nobody in the OMM crew knew much about Touhou, in the end I was able to go with the match-up because I promised to make it look great.

Really, even I think I nerfed Dio quite a bit in this (You can only do so much in a minute, I even wanted to animate Sakuya decapitating him and having to fight his head)
One Minute Melee is really just an animator wanting to make something pretty, what skills/abilities/traits they decide to show/omit on the characters is entirely up to the animators themselves. (As opposed to Death Battle where Screwattack does all the scripting and the animators animate around that script.)

So in the end I had Sakuya win the fight because... I wanted her to :3

Helepolis · « **Reply #15 on:** March 03, 2015, 07:41:02 AM »

@ Game2011 & Lishy or anybody else, kindly requesting to drop the power level discussion. We don't do power level discussions and I don't prefer to see this thread locked due to that.

--

That said, I am amused that the voices from Koumajou no Densetsu were used for Sakuya. They have sense of maturity in them and Sakuya just sounds cool in that game in my opinion. Dragging of the time was clever as noted. I enjoyed the animation and brutal exchanges.

Well done.

Quote from: Aquila on March 03, 2015, 07:25:26 AM

So in the end I had Sakuya win the fight because... I wanted her to :3

Haha, that is splendid imo. To have the supreme power to decide the outcome of something like this. Butthurt fanboy/girls will rage at you and delighted ones will praise you. Either way, it is quite amusing.

game2011 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 03, 2015, 08:49:46 AM »

Quote from: Helepolis on March 03, 2015, 07:41:02 AM

@ Game2011 & Lishy or anybody else, kindly requesting to drop the power level discussion. We don't do power level discussions and I don't prefer to see this thread locked due to that.

Sorry...

haoreos2 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 03, 2015, 10:33:11 AM »

Silly fighters, don't they realize you should just pretend to be ice so you can spam time freezes?

In all seriousness though, regardless of how accurate it may or may not be, that was really well made and very fun to watch. Also, wonderfully fast paced; I missed the part where he reattached the arm the first time, so I'll have to watch it at half speed later.

Dorakyura · « **Reply #18 on:** March 03, 2015, 01:42:31 PM »

Neat, very well made fight there. Would watch it again.

Quote

To be continued...

it is not over yet :3

Flandre5carlet · « **Reply #19 on:** March 03, 2015, 02:01:16 PM »

The animation is astonishingly good, hats off. The fight is very well made and choreographed overall.

Of course, as a Touhou fan I also enjoy the outcome, but seeing it end the other way wouldn't have particularly bothered me (unlike the masses of asspained JoJo fans in the Youtube comments...), because the fight is very well made either way, and moreover wasn't aiming at being a researched Death Battle; so I took it as just that, two cool timestoppers beating each other up.
Some might see it as an asspull (especially previously mentioned group of individuals) but I found the plot twist at the end of the fight very clever, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Also, I must ask: is the "To be continued" simply a throwback at the JoJo franchise, or is it actually hinting at a later sequel (1MM or Death Battle)?

Helepolis · « **Reply #20 on:** March 03, 2015, 02:34:23 PM »

Seems a Jojo thing based on series. Doubting there will be 2nd battle or follow up.

Suspicious person · « **Reply #21 on:** March 03, 2015, 02:57:00 PM »

Ooooh never expected to see a Touhou anything from screw attack

Being a Touhou fan and familiar with the JJBA series, I am quite satisfied with this. It's in time like these that youtube might need a "flag as butthurt" button, but I ain't letting some random youtuber butthurt venting spoil my fun :3
(btw the "to be continued" at the end was a nice addition

Zerviscos · « **Reply #22 on:** March 03, 2015, 03:14:06 PM »

Still waiting for a Death Battle. So we might probably agree to their research since we practically do it from time to time anyways. :derp:

ExPorygon · « **Reply #23 on:** March 03, 2015, 03:53:19 PM »

How likely do you think it is that we'll ever get a real Death Battle or at least another One Minute Melee featuring a Touhou character?

Aquila · « **Reply #24 on:** March 03, 2015, 04:37:58 PM »

I guess I didn't think about the confusion the whole "To be continued" thing would cause. I popped it in because it's just how the JJBA episodes usually ended, with the color-filtered freeze frame and everything ^^;

And we don't tend to use the same series twice in a row but... If Touhou comes back for a round 2 the one animating it will most likely be me again. (Though you never know, I ended up getting a few of the OMM guys into Touhou xD)

Helepolis · « **Reply #25 on:** March 03, 2015, 05:06:51 PM »

Quote from: Aquila on March 03, 2015, 04:37:58 PM

I guess I didn't think about the confusion the whole "To be continued" thing would cause. I popped it in because it's just how the JJBA episodes usually ended, with the color-filtered freeze frame and everything ^^;

Don't worry. People always try to come up with something when they are in despair. I too thought it was typically how the Jojo episodes ended when I first saw it, including the SFX / style and such.

ExPorygon · « **Reply #26 on:** March 03, 2015, 05:08:42 PM »

Quote from: Aquila on March 03, 2015, 04:37:58 PM

And we don't tend to use the same series twice in a row but... If Touhou comes back for a round 2 the one animating it will most likely be me again. (Though you never know, I ended up getting a few of the OMM guys into Touhou xD)

Well, yeah, twice in a row wouldn't be fair to the legions of characters from other series waiting for a shot. Still, good to know the chances are decent that we'll get another one.

I'll continue to hold out hope that a full Death Battle feature a Touhou character, though we might have to wait a long time. Death Battle shows no signs of slowing down, though.

Wonderful job on the animation btw, will definitely be one of my favorite fights to watch.

Suspicious person · « **Reply #27 on:** March 03, 2015, 06:10:32 PM »

Might be a bit late to ask but...
Why a Metal slug level as the stage

??

Elidis · « **Reply #28 on:** March 03, 2015, 07:59:30 PM »

Wow this was a pleasant surprise, even more so because Sakuya is one of my favorites and the fight rocked, good job

Maiden Synnae ミ☆ · « **Reply #29 on:** March 03, 2015, 08:29:03 PM »

That was really awesome! ^^ I enjoyed the match~

Good job!