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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #60 on: November 16, 2014, 07:30:38 AM »
Look. You just need to cast all your spells randomly, and you will probably win the game.

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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #61 on: November 16, 2014, 07:46:20 AM »
Look. You just need to cast all your spells randomly, and you will probably win the game.
Pretty much how most Ogre players work.



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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #62 on: November 16, 2014, 02:48:23 PM »
The first skill is basically a more reliable Alch stun.
You can make the enemy carry take 50% more damage from your carry's right clicks while also disarming them. Which is pretty good.
The third skill is like the old active on SK's crit, it really helps in bursting somebody down.
Oracle's ultimate is a 9 second Shallow Grave+Shadow Dance on a 20 second cooldown.

Alternative strats is to W E your allies in lane to give them lots of healing.

I asm a complete idiot at DotA and even I can tell that sounds absurdly OP.


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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #63 on: November 16, 2014, 03:11:49 PM »
Is also good for a team against spell-based heroes. It helps survivability against projectile spells when you're being chased down. Have your carry get BKB, and once the duration ends, cast Edict and your carry gets a 100% Spell Resistance and still have him chop down heroes without the worry of huge nukes. Ofc he'll have to worry non-magic.Except Shallow Grave makes you alive, even at the end, so long as you don't get hit by some measly damage after it. :V

Also Shadow Dance > False Promise

I think FP is detectable through True Sight, which would make Oracle's ult most viable for early to mid game, and for letting main cores survive long in battle.
Ofc it can also act like a distraction. If the health bar on enemies' view is also delayed, it could work as so they won't focus fire on the hero with the ult buff, since of course they'll be like "I don't know, have I dealt enough damage already? Do I stop attacking or should I keep attacking?". Which actually helps tremendously.

The effects of healing get doubled when used on someone under the effects of False Promise

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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #64 on: November 16, 2014, 03:20:10 PM »
The effects of healing get doubled when used on someone under the effects of False Promise

just saying
I'm confused on how gamepedia says it.




Now I clearly have no clue if it's provided at the end, or during the duration.

This is why I usually don't comment on the heroes I've never had the chance to play before in Dota 1 that's transitioning to Dota 2. :V



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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #65 on: November 16, 2014, 03:43:24 PM »
I'm confused on how gamepedia says it.

The way False Promise works is very similar to the Ghost Ship's Coco Rum effect, if the damage is 100% instead of 50%. Healing and damage do not get calculated on the hero until the duration of False Promise has ended. Once FP has ended, the damage and healing take effect. Healing gets doubled, so if you spam Purifying Flames on your FP target enough like I was always wont to do during my DOTA1 days, they actually end up coming out of FP usually with 80%~100% HP. Pretty much a 9s invulnerability really.

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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #66 on: November 16, 2014, 04:00:41 PM »
The way False Promise works is very similar to the Ghost Ship's Coco Rum effect, if the damage is 100% instead of 50%. Healing and damage do not get calculated on the hero until the duration of False Promise has ended. Once FP has ended, the damage and healing take effect. Healing gets doubled, so if you spam Purifying Flames on your FP target enough like I was always wont to do during my DOTA1 days, they actually end up coming out of FP usually with 80%~100% HP. Pretty much a 9s invulnerability really.
Now that is seriously broken.

Edit:
I just realized how f-in Protoss Oracle looks.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2014, 04:08:03 PM by En »



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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #67 on: November 21, 2014, 03:56:04 AM »
I don't understand how Oracle only has a 39% winrate so far when the hero is so unbalanced.

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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #68 on: November 21, 2014, 04:06:03 AM »
Meepo. Wisp. :V

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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #69 on: November 21, 2014, 04:09:39 AM »
But Oracle isn't even hard to play, nor do you have to manage any secondary units.
Why are people so bad?

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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #70 on: November 21, 2014, 04:37:15 AM »
why is dota such a hard game

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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #71 on: November 21, 2014, 07:22:31 AM »
So I just bought the PA Arcana.
But I'm looking at the market, what's the difference between the Pre-Order Bundle and the Non-Pre-Order one?



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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #72 on: November 21, 2014, 07:26:01 AM »
"Pre-ordered Arcana bundles have the 'exalted' quality"
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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #73 on: November 21, 2014, 08:03:01 AM »
"Pre-ordered Arcana bundles have the 'exalted' quality"
-not an actual quote
Really? Then where's the non-exalted, already opened and used Arcanas on the market?

Also,

When game starts you "Smoke Weed Everyday.
When tower is getting destroyed just "Drop it Like it's Hot".

I am already thinking various shiz that's coming. :V

Edit:
Amra, the PA arcana is exalted from either bundle. Just opened mine. As long as it's before 7th Dec., it's Exalted.
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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #75 on: November 21, 2014, 11:55:40 AM »
But Oracle isn't even hard to play, nor do you have to manage any secondary units.
Why are people so bad?

I dunno man, but when I was playing DotA1 on LAN i was the only person in my group who could win using Oracle...

people are dumb

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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #76 on: November 21, 2014, 12:46:45 PM »
Pretty much how most Ogre players work.
I only skill shot with him.

The way False Promise works is very similar to the Ghost Ship's Coco Rum effect, if the damage is 100% instead of 50%. Healing and damage do not get calculated on the hero until the duration of False Promise has ended. Once FP has ended, the damage and healing take effect. Healing gets doubled, so if you spam Purifying Flames on your FP target enough like I was always wont to do during my DOTA1 days, they actually end up coming out of FP usually with 80%~100% HP. Pretty much a 9s invulnerability really.
Keine's skills comes in mind from DotS. And Keine was released before Oracle and the others were in Dota1 if I am not mistaking.

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When tower is getting destroyed just "Drop it Like it's Hot".

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Fund/support this. Seriously, if he would personally announce it, it will probably be the first DotA2 item I will buy in my life.

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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #77 on: November 21, 2014, 04:57:42 PM »
So I just bought the PA Arcana.

RIP wallet.

Gonna be a lot of PAs around I bet, so how best to counter her? :)

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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #78 on: November 21, 2014, 05:03:43 PM »
RIP wallet.

Gonna be a lot of PAs around I bet, so how best to counter her? :)

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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #79 on: November 21, 2014, 05:52:42 PM »
Stun

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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #80 on: November 22, 2014, 12:20:10 AM »
I kinda wanna blow money on that PA shit but I don't actually like playing as PA. Need parties, gib treasures with shit I don't really want that badly.

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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #81 on: November 22, 2014, 02:13:10 AM »
RIP wallet.
Wallet? You mean my real life money? In fact I never even spent a dime.
I get all my steam money from betting. I currently have $124 on Steam right now, and more items on the lounge that I haven't even sold yet. :derp:



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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #83 on: November 25, 2014, 03:43:48 PM »
RIP wallet.

Gonna be a lot of PAs around I bet, so how best to counter her? :)

Pray to RNGesus, since that is what that hero is.

Seriously; PA makes Ogre look like a scrub. Everything about her is a % chance to crit and a % evasion. Even her dagger can crit; and her Phantom Strike makes her attack fast which gives her a larger chance to get a crit quickly. At least Ogre is functional if he dosen't Multicast. He still has a stun; slow and pretty decent buff.

Also I'll add to the list of counters and say Disarm and Ghost Secptre. Silence combined with a slow is pretty handy too.
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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #84 on: November 25, 2014, 06:49:33 PM »
MKB and hex.
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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #85 on: November 25, 2014, 10:22:10 PM »
Death is the best disable

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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #86 on: November 25, 2014, 11:40:52 PM »
Gonna be a lot of PAs around I bet, so how best to counter her? :)
Easy.

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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #87 on: November 26, 2014, 01:04:28 AM »
Hex still wins games :|
If your entire team farms a hex, then I give you a 99.99+.01% chance of winning the game

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Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #88 on: November 26, 2014, 02:00:34 AM »
That also means that your entire team was ahead enough to be able to farm a hex.

Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Oracle is dumb #salt
« Reply #89 on: November 26, 2014, 02:04:28 AM »
Speaking of hex, can you use Bkb while your hero is hexed?