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Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« on: September 04, 2014, 09:42:11 PM »
I believe i have found a method which might decrypt Fantasy Maiden Wars You, these scripts could help, they worked on Fantasy Maiden Wars Ei's demo, sooooo it might just work  :)
http://mauve.sandwich.net/misc/gsw3dump.cpp.txt Hope this helps. Also it might help when translation of Fantasy Maiden Wars Ei starts.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2014, 09:51:07 PM by UnidentifiedFantastic1231 »
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Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2014, 01:20:03 PM »
So i am going to try to decrypt the game so first of all, is the problem the Dat.files or the exe itself?
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Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2014, 02:36:32 PM »
I decoded the exe and this was the result:

http://pastebin.com/qWNgnKyy
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Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2014, 04:07:24 PM »
That looks about what I imagined after what I heard about the unwillingness of these games to be hacked/patched. An unintelligible mess. :V
But I wish you good luck in your endeavor. Rooting for you.

Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2014, 05:47:31 PM »
Soi don't know how to apply the mauve solution, so i will try to do this manually.

Update- I learned that the dat.files are in MD5 format, so this will be complicated, does anyone here know how to decrypt MD5 files? It would be a great help!
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Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2014, 06:15:18 PM »
This is Dat.file1, its MD5 and so far i am getting obliterated by this... have a look:

http://pastebin.com/jsYdRJzC
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Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2014, 06:35:24 PM »
You really should be pasting these on pastebin or a similar service.

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Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2014, 02:20:10 AM »
It all looks like Mojibake.. X3
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Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2014, 03:15:03 PM »
This is.... pretty much gibberish, and thats just one dat.file, if one of them is MD5 then all of them are. Is there any tool that we can use to decrypt without the password? I don't know how to use the mauve decryption :(, and manually its impossible i mean look at that...


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Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2014, 06:59:17 AM »
You really should be pasting these on pastebin or a similar service.
I need to echo quote this.

Kindly requesting to edit your posts and paste the 'code' in pastebin to avoid people's scrollbars turning into midgets.

Additionally, this thread entails modding/editing wich belongs in the child forum of Rika Nitori. I'll be moving your thread by the end of the day.

Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2014, 07:51:15 AM »
I'm glad someone decided to take the challenge again, especially since Ei was released during this recent Comiket [86], and there still hasn't been an English Patch for You yet... ;_____;

I think this has been suggested before, but has anyone tried to actually ask Sanbondo about their game files?
I mean it's highly unlikely but anything could happen...

Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2014, 01:13:04 PM »
I'm glad someone decided to take the challenge again, especially since Ei was released during this recent Comiket [86], and there still hasn't been an English Patch for You yet... ;_____;

I think this has been suggested before, but has anyone tried to actually ask Sanbondo about their game files?
I mean it's highly unlikely but anything could happen...

I actually emailed them on twitter ( not on their blog because of the japonese number confirmation thing ) asking if they would make an english patch ( there hasn't been a reply )
after all they are the ones that encrypted so they know the password to decrypt, they can also easily translate the game ( which is something that clearly Sanbondo and Strawberry Rose should do, after all not all touhou fans are japonese ).
Honestly me emailing them was worth a shot ( although it probably wont do anything )
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Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2014, 03:50:24 PM »
While it certainly would be very kind of Sanbondo to translate and release this game to an English audience there's several points to consider.

1) It's very possible that no one in Sanbondo is fluent enough in English to feasible translate the games.
2) It's true that not all Touhou fans are Japanese, but I wouldn't doubt that the lion's share of fans are Japanese. They might not consider it worth the effort to cater to that minority.
3) This is actually in the process of being solved due to the digital release of TH14 on Playism and the PS4/Vita announcement but getting this game through legal means is by no means easy. Now you're going from catering to a small minority of fans to an even smaller minority who are able to import these games over.

If they gave the password to allow access to the encrypted files, that'd be great, but that also seems very unlikely. Probably can't hurt to ask, but I wouldn't get my hopes up personally.

(Also, please edit your earlier posts. They are, as you said, gibberish and kinda of unnecessary in the topic. As some users have suggested, put them into a pastebin and link that instead)

Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2014, 09:40:34 PM »
Well then we probably will never see this translated :(
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Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2014, 10:26:37 AM »
In all seriousness, from my POV, it looks rather probable that Sanbondo is actively hostile to the possibility of the GST games getting translation patched (the encryption started from the second one), and might aggressively try to quash such a project if one actually got off the ground.  Considering they aggressively get LPs of GST3 taken down on Youtube I'd consider this a very likely possibility.

Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2014, 11:44:39 AM »
In all seriousness, from my POV, it looks rather probable that Sanbondo is actively hostile to the possibility of the GST games getting translation patched (the encryption started from the second one), and might aggressively try to quash such a project if one actually got off the ground.  Considering they aggressively get LPs of GST3 taken down on Youtube I'd consider this a very likely possibility.

Well i wouldn't be surprised, i was in a particular thread requesting ( kindly ) for the password to decrypt and he responded in all caps saying this:

IT IS NEVER HAPPENING
I ENCRYPTED THE GAME FOR A REASON

He seems to have low temper.
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Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2014, 11:59:28 AM »
In all seriousness, from my POV, it looks rather probable that Sanbondo is actively hostile to the possibility of the GST games getting translation patched (the encryption started from the second one), and might aggressively try to quash such a project if one actually got off the ground.  Considering they aggressively get LPs of GST3 taken down on Youtube I'd consider this a very likely possibility.

It's actually because Sanbondo made a general request in their video upload guidelines to not upload any videos until the game is available in stores (27th September, for the record), with exceptions made for live broadcasts.

According to their guidelines, after 27th September, Let's Play and battle demo videos would be okay. They still request to refrain from uploading videos that change the source game, uploads of raw materials (e.g. individual songs), endings that aren't a result of finishing a Lets Play and videos that don't use the latest patch, though.

Well i wouldn't be surprised, i was in a particular thread requesting ( kindly ) for the password to decrypt and he responded in all caps saying this:

IT IS NEVER HAPPENING
I ENCRYPTED THE GAME FOR A REASON

He seems to have low temper.

I'm pretty sure I'd feel the same way if someone asked me for the password to my PC login, repeatedly.

Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2014, 01:27:01 PM »

I'm pretty sure I'd feel the same way if someone asked me for the password to my PC login, repeatedly.

Well i only messaged him like 3 times! Plus i said i was sorry!
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Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2014, 01:57:18 PM »
And one of those times was you accusing him of being an imposter.  You are not giving off the impression you have really reflected upon your rudeness.  Please stop trying to rationalize it.


Putting that aside, is there anything that prevents this project from continuing simply as a text document of a translated script, skills, etc?  Or is a text dump not even accessible and it all would have to be documented by hand first?  The gameplay thread already has basic menu, skill, item, and option stuff with screenshots, so the remaining outlier is the actual meat of the story.

Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2014, 02:11:15 PM »
Well it's impossible to decrypt it soooo, well it's basically impossible this project continues because Sanbondo clearly doesn't want the translation. It's no use! Hope someone got that reference.

cough cough Sonic 06 cough cough

But back in topic if the creator of the game doesn't want to then we can't translate the game
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Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2014, 02:50:30 PM »
Look, we've been through this with the other thread. I don't see why we 're having a deja vu here. There is no need to keep on repeating the phrase/problem all over. In fact, there is no problem. You're the one making this a problem.

Having translations is not a right but a possible privilege, ONLY if the author approves and OFFERS. You as a fan have no right to judge about what happens with the game. You didn't make it so you don't get to decide.

I am giving this thread one last chance. If I don't see constructive progress in attempting an alternative form of translation (which gtf proposed and various people), I am afraid I have to lock this thread.

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Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2014, 02:53:28 PM »
agree with gtf234 here, you asked him in the most rude and disrespectful possible way, from how you used bing translator, to ask him if he is an impostor, that was so rude that I think his reaction is still somewhat calm, many people would have blocked you without even giving a final answer.

anyway, looked at the source code, he used plenty of passwords for various part in this game, but as far as data file password go, it seem like it's "bV"



it seem like he have data archive inside those data archive as well, and each of them seem to have different password, anyway, I will try to look into this.

btw he use english comment in his code, which mean that he is probably fluent in english, expect him show up here anytime to tell us to stop.
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Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2014, 05:11:59 PM »
If he wants to say "You are not allowed to know or assist other foreigners in knowing what is happening in my story" he's free to do so, and that really would be the end of that, no ifs, ands, or buts- and that's completely fine, he does have the right to assert that.

But I feel like a text script is at least respecting his wish for others to neither directly modify his game nor upload raw data from the game while still being better than nothing for those who can't really devote to mastering the language.   It's sort of either try this or we all give up entirely and stop fussing over it, the way I see it anyway.  The latter option doesn't really bother me much as I have been playing SRW for 15 years or so with none of those in English- I am grateful enough he's stocking Ei in a place that ships internationally this time- less of an absurd markup I have to pay to get a copy one compared to my other options and getting copies of the past two entries.  Having and playing it is good enough, understanding the finer story details (since we all more or less know what is happening in a broad sense by virtue of knowing the source material- just like how it goes in SRW games) is just some extra gravy.

A script can at least be done without even needing to muck around in the game data- while it would be tedious to get all the optional events like boss prebattle conversations and hidden map events, the core script is essentially a case of screencapping the in-game backlog during intermissions and talking events.  Even I could do that as I still need to do a run on Marisa's route, and have stagger saved every chapter of Reimu's.  I would imagine it wouldn't be so bad if a few people were just compiling the script that way.  Not really a practical way to do a text script, I know, but it's an option that doesn't need to fiddle with the game itself beyond actually playing it.
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Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2014, 06:25:38 PM »
agree with gtf234 here, you asked him in the most rude and disrespectful possible way, from how you used bing translator, to ask him if he is an impostor, that was so rude that I think his reaction is still somewhat calm, many people would have blocked you without even giving a final answer.


Guys i understand i didn't do the right thing, even though i had good intentions as Helepolis said it was poorly executed and i admit that i rushed to that without even thinking, and i am deeply sorry that.


btw he use english comment in his code, which mean that he is probably fluent in english, expect him show up here anytime to tell us to stop.

I agree with that, after all he is the creator he has the right to chose if he wants the game translated or not. I miself saw some english code in the dat.file1.

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Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2014, 07:13:59 PM »
btw he use english comment in his code, which mean that he is probably fluent in english, expect him show up here anytime to tell us to stop.

I think that's a public library. Googling GMBInOpenFileReadPW brings up a game on yoyogames.

Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2014, 12:27:47 PM »
Well do you remember the petition incident? Well my suspitions were right! That wasn't Sanbondo after all! It was really and impostor! Because i actually got to speak with the REAL Sanbondo!

Here is the link to the conversation:
https://twitter.com/sanbondo/status/526746474797735936

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Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2014, 01:01:56 PM »
Well, that's a relief. Still, we should remain careful so a similar incident doesn't happen. We already have enough of a stigma as "baka gaijins" as it is...

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Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2014, 01:57:55 PM »
I like how your reply doesn't thank him for responding nor inform him that you will respect their way of doing things.

Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2014, 07:42:04 PM »
I do respect the real Sanbondo. I just didn't know that distribution of Touhou derivates overseas was prohybited.
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Re: Fantasy Maiden Wars You Encyrpt possible solution
« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2014, 09:43:12 PM »
That's been one of the rules since the get go, always been one of ZUN's rules for derivative works and how okay he is with them being made with his intellectual property.  Though as far as I know, if a specialty store is going to accept international orders, he's yet to step in and shut down any international orders for such goods with any force of legal action.  The only incident I know of was when White Canvas got its licensing rights revoked temporarily, but that had nothing to do with them shipping merch to foreign customers.  In actual practice it ends up being that resale in the novelty shops is fair game and who they sell stuff to isn't going to be scrutinized that much, but it's bad form for the circles to directly sell the derivative works abroad.  The issue hardly comes up because so few of the specialty stores actually do ship internationally.  Either way from my observations it's a rule of courtesy more than a rule law, but I could be wrong on that as I have really only interacted directly with one music circle, and it easily can become an issue of law.

I guess what baffles me more is how you still haven't let this go and was once again bugging them and you felt the need to pursue this further...  But it's not my place to scold you like a child so I am just going to leave that aside and be pleased this response was polite about shooting you down, kind of implies a more formal "sorry but we can't/don't want to help you for reasons we have no obligation to disclose to you, Mr Random Stranger" and less furious indignation at the audacity of a crazy foreigner.  Seriously, please drop it and let them be, it reflects poorly on all of us.
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