Author Topic: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F  (Read 184238 times)

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #300 on: July 31, 2014, 07:59:58 PM »
I can vouch for that one, I gave Komachi the item that gives attacks poison and things went lol funny mode.  Also... the Enhanced 3 Orbs are trolls ESPECIALLY Reverse since it explodes and kills your party in one shot I did not see it coming and got trolled so hard it was not even funny and my party was at full health when it happen not even Byakuren survived IT SUCKS.

How much resistances did you have? I'm thinking that by that time in the game you'd need to have like, 300 resistances.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #301 on: July 31, 2014, 09:59:35 PM »
How much resistances did you have? I'm thinking that by that time in the game you'd need to have like, 300 resistances.
300+ resistances in most of the parts for the fight, I didn't have a problem with them that badly it was just Reverse's exploding caught me off guard when I was about to finish it off with my overly buffed Gambler Flandre.  I managed to beat them on my second try with me destroying both Canopy and Reverse and weakening Forward just enough to one shot him before he could revive the other two. Now, I'm just stuck with the Enhanced Amber Magatama and it's ridiculous due to it's newly formed regen and it gets faster with every turn like it did when you first fight it. I have the power to pack against it, but not when it's deciding to go "OH HAY IMMA SPAM HALF-MOON SLASH ALL DAY ERE DAY BECAUSE I'M ENHANCED" even with Reisen and Nitori this boss is evil, I'm thinking of trying to outwit it with Sakuya, but I might need better dark ammo. Any ideas about how to deal with the enhanced High Magatama, I already know it still has it's dark weakness and it's speeding up with every passing turn gimmick it's just... I can't staaaaaaaaaand that regen even though it's just only 78,000 hp per turn.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #302 on: August 01, 2014, 02:59:55 AM »
Be bootleg and inflict death on it with Yuyuko + Reisen.

jkjk, but that's what my friend did to it. (And Giant Blue Oni and Knowledge)

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #303 on: August 01, 2014, 03:16:52 AM »
Be bootleg and inflict death on it with Yuyuko + Reisen.

jkjk, but that's what my friend did to it. (And Giant Blue Oni and Knowledge)
Wait is the Mirror also weak to death then?
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #304 on: August 01, 2014, 05:45:57 AM »
Wait is the Mirror also weak to death then?

Noooooo neither are weak to death, but using the combo of yuyuko and reisen can give a tiny chance to inflict death on both of those things. Like 3.5% chance of somethin.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #305 on: August 01, 2014, 04:17:11 PM »
Noooooo neither are weak to death, but using the combo of yuyuko and reisen can give a tiny chance to inflict death on both of those things. Like 3.5% chance of somethin.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #306 on: August 02, 2014, 02:20:14 PM »
Noooooo neither are weak to death, but using the combo of yuyuko and reisen can give a tiny chance to inflict death on both of those things. Like 3.5% chance of somethin.

Were sub classes a part of that combo, ZXNova? Because I would think that Toxicologist for Yuyuko would be used to help in pulling that off. That, and the main equip that gives a chance to inflict death, for how little that item would be able to help(as far as I'm concerned, one could also send in someone with Toxicologist(with the Death inflicting spell up and running) + Sheer Force skill as a back up in trying to hit with instant death).
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #307 on: August 02, 2014, 06:07:58 PM »
Were sub classes a part of that combo, ZXNova? Because I would think that Toxicologist for Yuyuko would be used to help in pulling that off. That, and the main equip that gives a chance to inflict death, for how little that item would be able to help(as far as I'm concerned, one could also send in someone with Toxicologist(with the Death inflicting spell up and running) + Sheer Force skill as a back up in trying to hit with instant death).

If you're willing to do the tactic, then yeah, you would need toxicologist on Yuyuko to make the chances higher. That one item that helps inflicts death, you couldalso  use that too to add more to chance of inflicting death, but I actually never used it. Having a Sheer Force toxicologist with you can also help, though I really don't believe their chances of inflicting death is higher than toxicologist Yuyuko + Reisen. Hey, the more death chances, the better.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #308 on: August 02, 2014, 08:43:01 PM »
This was answered somewhere in one of the first threads but who would look there. Someone should really put it into the wiki imho. :V

[Byakuren's 4th scroll is] in the area of 14F around the stares to 15F. Just warp to 15F and go down, it drops there.

I'm assuming that this means the area below the first 15F waypoint? I tried fighting there for about ten battles and didn't came up with anything. Does it take a long time?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #309 on: August 02, 2014, 09:16:47 PM »
I'm assuming that this means the area below the first 15F waypoint? I tried fighting there for about ten battles and didn't came up with anything. Does it take a long time?

It's completely random. But it really shouldn't take long. You have a Nazrin and Rinnosuke with ya?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #310 on: August 02, 2014, 11:33:33 PM »
Found it after about ten more battles. Should've been more patient.

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #311 on: August 04, 2014, 04:46:34 PM »
Hey all,

I'm sure you guys get enough of these, but here's another "How do I get this to work?" post.
I downloaded the Ver 1.203 from the OP, extracted it, and ran THLabyrinth2.exe, and all it does is show a black screen and exit.
What do?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #312 on: August 04, 2014, 09:46:48 PM »
Hey all,

I'm sure you guys get enough of these, but here's another "How do I get this to work?" post.
I downloaded the Ver 1.203 from the OP, extracted it, and ran THLabyrinth2.exe, and all it does is show a black screen and exit.
What do?
Obtain the actual game somehow, preferably through buying the game from melonbooks or something to support the developers. The download link in the OP is just the latest patch of the game. You need to have the actual game to apply the patch on.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2014, 09:49:24 PM by jaxter0987 »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #313 on: August 06, 2014, 10:08:49 AM »
So, Laby2, I'm a bit confused by a skill description, and what the wiki says upgrading it does.

"Increases all stats by 60% and reduce 65% of her current HP" and  "All stats +3% and HP reduction -5% per level" Would that HP reduction change be an improvement, or a greater penalty? 65->60->55 sorta thing, or 65->70->75 sorta thing?

It is for
Spoiler:
Maribel's Overflowing Unnatural Power spell

Related note:
Spoiler:
Maribel's skill Ability to Meddle with Boundaries says that "Buff effects decay slower on Maribel." Now, how much slower is this? Normal you would lose 20% of the buffs value, 100 becomes 80, 80 becomes 64, and so on.

I can guess at the answers, but I'd love a certain answer.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #314 on: August 06, 2014, 10:21:01 AM »
The HP penalty gets reduced by leveling the skill up (55% at lvl5 is correct)
"Ability to slightly fiddle with boundaries" seems to actually be bugged in 1.203 and doesn't do anything. When at 100% she still drops down to 80%.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #315 on: August 10, 2014, 02:18:06 PM »
Well, it looks like the translation effort is in a state of "complete and being bugtested/edited", so I suppose it's time to restart with a new file.  Managed to edit the save file to give me Maribel and Renko (even if it looks like this causes the three deformed bosses to un-exist?), so the question is now "what party do I want to use"

My basically static party for my current playthrough is: Momiji, Wriggle, Komachi, Byakuren, Reimu, Yuugi, Parsee, Sakuya, Reisen, Patchouli, Yuka, and Cirno.  I don't want to reuse any of them for a new party, and I don't want to Nitori either.

I am completely open to suggestions at the moment~

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #316 on: August 10, 2014, 02:59:15 PM »
Maybe do a synergy run of some sort? Looking at that list, you don't have any of the Yakumo members on there, so try that? It's what I'm doing at the moment (besides the Sealing Club synergy run that I've held off on since doing two runs at once would be kind of annoying, and Sealing Club I know will be a massive bitch since lol only two party members).
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #317 on: August 10, 2014, 03:26:55 PM »
I might bring all three of the Yakumo with me.  I wouldn't do a "solely this cast of characters" run, as I want a full 12 person party; but it doesn't seem like a bad idea.  (Speaking of the Sealing Club I know I want to use Maribel; not so sure about Renko though.)

EDIT: Yukari/Ran/Chen, Utsuho/Orin/Satori, Maribel/Renko, Marisa/Alice, and Tenshi/Iku.  Exactly 12 characters, most of whom I gave extremely little attention to at best during my first run, and they've all got synergies.  (Someone's going to have to subclass as a healer the moment I get subclasses though whoops)
« Last Edit: August 10, 2014, 06:28:13 PM by Garlyle »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #318 on: August 10, 2014, 06:31:06 PM »
Renko is a rather interesting character to pick up though, she has several quirky but valuable abilities.
And if you take Maribel with you, you might as well take Renko.
I can recommend the Moriya Family especially Sanae+Kanako.
(Try Okuu if you want to be disappointed 80% of the game and then suddenly go wow at her all around greatness.)

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #319 on: August 10, 2014, 06:33:22 PM »
I can recommend the Moriya Family especially Sanae+Kanako.
I was debating bringing the Moriya in but I actually got a fair amount of use from them on my last playthrough until they were eventually replaced (Sanae mostly, as she's like Byakuren's lesser counterpart until you actually get Byakuren).

I'm probably going to discover halfway through this run that I've overlooked some very, very crucial things.  Oh well 8D

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #320 on: August 10, 2014, 07:20:36 PM »
I often manage to not take characters with me that have piercing attacks or can heal and it is really not all that great having to rely on weird passives that heal, so watch out for that. :V (At least you can just give someone Healer subclass but AoE heals are sometimes just invaluable.)

You can do without but it's mostly just a hassle.
« Last Edit: August 10, 2014, 07:24:53 PM by Yookie »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #321 on: August 10, 2014, 09:55:00 PM »
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(Someone's going to have to subclass as a healer the moment I get subclasses though whoops)
Rush Maribel's Barrier up in levels and hope that the heal is alright at gamestart scaling? :V
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #322 on: August 10, 2014, 10:22:49 PM »
Rush Maribel's Barrier up in levels and hope that the heal is alright at gamestart scaling? :V
At one level up on the skill (so it has the healing), on 1F

it was healing for ~10 HP.

so uh

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #323 on: August 11, 2014, 12:54:46 AM »
I've managed to beat the final boss, so what are the rough sequence of postgame stuff to do, and at about what level should I be at for them? (my party's average level is at level 94 right now)

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #324 on: August 11, 2014, 01:05:00 AM »
You should be able to handle the boss rush right away. Apart from that, there's three things.

A.Strengthened bosses (Which scale up in difficulty, so you'll go through them over time as you level up more)
B.Explore the postgame floors (You can just give them a go and see how well you fare; but you probably want to level up more at the moment instead)
C.Grind on 20F Depths

Well, eventually there's the postgame bosses, but those pretty much come after you complete both A and B. You'll pretty much switch between A/B/C as you feel like. How hard A and B are depends a lot on your party composition, but you'll need a lot of grinding sooner or later no matter how you look at it... so you'll probably just want to grind on 20F until you're sick of it and interchange with the other two things for variety.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #325 on: August 11, 2014, 03:55:46 AM »
After the boss rush, as mentioned... it's basically "grind until you're able to do things, do things, go back and grind more".  20F Depths is the best spot in the game to level.

There's the three Deformed bosses (Starting near the level 120 FOE) to take on for the final two characters, and the twelve Strengthened Bosses (You should be able to handle the first at level 120-ish).  There's also extra floors to explore by going behind where 12F's boss was (the floors going downwards expect about level 120; the floors going up expect 135-ish) which have a lot of gear, and if you're defeating strengthened bosses you can explore even more and find the bonus bosses hidden down there.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #326 on: August 11, 2014, 11:43:09 PM »
I turned Sakuya into more of a defensive character since I already had enough damage from everyone else in my synergy run. She got Enhancer and thus became my only form of AoE heal. I definitely needed it during the 18F fight.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #327 on: August 12, 2014, 02:50:58 PM »
I did that with Sakuya in my run too, actually, since she really didn't seem to do much damage, yet had useful abilities. By the time I reached the final boss her supportive power was pretty much useless, though, admittedly- it's kinda nice for awhile, but it does get pretty outclassed. That's okay, though, since she's got the synergy and -can- be offensive instead.

Although I just kinda dropped her for Mari/Renko *cough* She was actually just sitting in my party at lv1 for average level boss requirements for the entire postgame up to that.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #328 on: August 12, 2014, 10:34:03 PM »
EDIT: Note to self: at least try to think a little before asking questions.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F
« Reply #329 on: August 13, 2014, 03:01:22 AM »
So, hopefully I'm just missing something here.  I just recently started playing the fully translated LoT2 (woo hoo!), but I noticed something weird.

I decided to try and take advantage of the consecutive battle bonuses, and swapped in different characters to preserve TP until my consecutive battles were around 20-25, thereby supposedly granting a ~50% bonus to experience and gold.  However, I noticed that there didn't appear to be any difference in either of the two, when I looked at post-battle rewards.  Is there something I'm missing here, or are there quirks to this system?

Note: I did switch floors during this run, but never exited the dungeon.

Thanks,

Veto