Labyrinth of Touhou 2 -13F

[ZXNova]

You can't.
ToR will reset the points spent in the Magic Library, Gems, Training Manuals and Tome of Insight on the character you use it on (Subclass and Skill points included, since you have to perform a reset before having the option of using a ToR). Skill reset will only reset their Skill points and their Subclass. And you can rearrange the LvlUp bonuses at any point without resetting anything else.

Well that's a good thing.

EDIT

You say you can reset subclasses w/out ToR, but how do you do it? When I go to skill reset in the library, it says you need a ToR, after all.

[Hawk]

Just skill reset, then say no to using a ToR.  That character will lose their subclass and your Stone of Awakening will be refunded.

[CKikuri]

Not sure if right place to post this but I have no idea how to patch Labyrinth of Touhou 2.

[Hawk]

There's no patcher or anything.  Once you grab the patch (click the button on this page), just copy the files over your installation.

All of the translation efforts can be found in this thread.  They are installed the same way, by pasting the contents over your installation.  Feel free to make backups at any step in case you're worried.

[CKikuri]

I mean like I have the Trial version(that DLSite thingy) and I already have that patch but I have literally no idea how to patch the game.You said to just drag the files over to the installation?After replacing the exe and trying to run it,it opens for a bit then closes.(I runned the Exe from the rar that I copied over the old exe(The one that's the 0200 version))

[Garlyle]

Not sure if right place to post this but I have no idea how to patch Labyrinth of Touhou 2.

What Hawk said, with this addition: Once you've put all the files in place, run the .exe that's included in the patcher files, instead of the original one.

[Serela]

I mean like I have the Trial version

You mean you have the demo version of the game? Sorry, but you're not going to be able to english patch that. You need the full game that's patched to the latest version, which I think is 1.203, before you can apply the english to it.

I'm also p.sure only the .exe file is necessary, the rest of the stuff in the english patch download is for the translation effort I guess or something.

[Hawk]

I'm pretty sure you need the DXAs, since they do the image replacements.

[jaxter0987]

I'm pretty sure you need the DXAs, since they do the image replacements.

They indeed do the image replacements, but that's only a one time thing and its a separate download from new patches that are released. You get the DXAs from the first post one time, and you won't need to again unless new images are being made (which they are I believe).

[Serela]

The translated img files also are not needed in order to use the english patch without it crashing, so if the game doesn't start, that wouldn't be why.

[CKikuri]

I mean like how do I patch the Demo Version of the game with the 1203 patch?that's my problem+no idea how to patch

[Jq1790]

I mean like how do I patch the Demo Version of the game with the 1203 patch?that's my problem+no idea how to patch

You can't get a demo version updated to an update of the full version.  Start by getting the original full version(I think DLSite carries it), then patch from there.

Someone correct me if I'm mistaken here.

[Nerv-Faktor]

I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but how does the LoT 2 translation progress?

Iirc last time I checked a lot of the skills and descriptions were translated, but basically nothing of the story.
Is it still like that?

[Axel Ryman]

I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but how does the LoT 2 translation progress?

Iirc last time I checked a lot of the skills and descriptions were translated, but basically nothing of the story.
Is it still like that?

www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=15439 This would be the thread to go to.

They have bits and pieces of the beginning done but that's really it. It's going a bit faster now than it was before though but still going to be a while.

[CKikuri]

...Someone get me the full version link.(Oh ya I was trying to reply to Jq1790.)

[Kuilfrayt]

...Someone get me the full version link.(Oh ya I was trying to reply to Jq1790.)

http://www.melonbooks.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=IT0000165852
This is the link for a digital version, finding a physical copy is a bit harder, and more expensive since you have to get it shipped from Japan.

And if you have never bought anything from melonbooks here is an image guide I made. You will need a credit card for this, if I recall correctly, they don't take Paypal.

[suzushinayuriko]

I was about to ask how to find out the amount of gems/training manuals a character has used, but I think I found it myself (pressing Z twice on the status page).

Also, does the Main Character - Marisa skill actually work? Reimu's skill activates instantly the moment someone dies, and there's even a fancy glowing L shape that appears next to her portrait when it does. But nothing seems to change for Marisa when 5 characters are KO'd?

[Kirin no Sora]

I was about to ask how to find out the amount of gems/training manuals a character has used, but I think I found it myself (pressing Z twice on the status page).

Also, does the Main Character - Marisa skill actually work? Reimu's skill activates instantly the moment someone dies, and there's even a fancy glowing L shape that appears next to her portrait when it does. But nothing seems to change for Marisa when 5 characters are KO'd?

Does Marisa gain a buff once she's on the front line? Is Marisa on the front line when 5 people are KOed, to check if she needs to be there when that happens(although, if that ends up being a requirement for the skill, then I would consider it a bad skill, or bugged)?

Also, if you can, can you show a pic this "fancy glowing L shape" that you described Reimu having when her skill activates?

(I apologize if I'm being pushy...)

[Kuilfrayt]

Does Marisa gain a buff once she's on the front line? Is Marisa on the front line when 5 people are KOed, to check if she needs to be there when that happens(although, if that ends up being a requirement for the skill, then I would consider it a bad skill, or bugged)?

Also, if you can, can you show a pic this "fancy glowing L shape" that you described Reimu having when her skill activates?

(I apologize if I'm being pushy...)

Reimu L thing


6 dead, and this is Marisa's turn. She doesn't get any increase in stats, or any MP regen. So it would seem her skill doesn't work. She was also on the front line everytime a character died.

[CKikuri]

http://www.melonbooks.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=IT0000165852
This is the link for a digital version, finding a physical copy is a bit harder, and more expensive since you have to get it shipped from Japan.

And if you have never bought anything from melonbooks here is an image guide I made. You will need a credit card for this, if I recall correctly, they don't take Paypal.

They use money?Well shit.I'm still 12 and my parents don't allow me to buy through internet.(Plus I live in Indonesia and 1944 Yen is Expensive as ****.231138 IDR and that already forbids me from buying it.)

[ZXNova]

Geez Gambler Flandre... 2 shotting Ama no Murakumo with 100% atk and 36% boost from pharamacologist. She basically takes off 75% of the sword's HP with Starbow break, and no, she isn't even fully invested in fighter gems (she only has 2)

[Ghaleon]

Atk gems wouldnt help flan much anyway since her atk is sky high. Gems help prople with bad stats more than good since they add a flat amount of said stat.

In fact flan prob benefits from atk gems less than any single character benefits from any gem in the game. Aside from gems someone just doesnt use like atk gems on patchy of mag gems on remi (unless you make patchy a warrior and remi a sorceress or something)

[ZXNova]

Yeah, you're prolly right.

Must go Sorceress Remi cause she's supposed to use magic qq

Warrior Patchy for manliness

Anyway though, I would totally give Yuuka fighter gems cause you see how high Yuuka's attack stat is? Warrior Yuuka m8.

[Kirin no Sora]

Atk gems wouldnt help flan much anyway since her atk is sky high. Gems help prople with bad stats more than good since they add a flat amount of said stat.

In fact flan prob benefits from atk gems less than any single character benefits from any gem in the game. Aside from gems someone just doesnt use like atk gems on patchy of mag gems on remi (unless you make patchy a warrior and remi a sorceress or something)

If that's true, then gems like that are more suited for characters like Minoriko, Cirno, and Chen, all of whom has low stats and a high leveling rate(bonus points for Chen having the fastest leveling rate in the game, so it would work rather well on her).

[Ghaleon]

If that's true, then gems like that are more suited for characters like Minoriko, Cirno, and Chen, all of whom has low stats and a high leveling rate(bonus points for Chen having the fastest leveling rate in the game, so it would work rather well on her).

Kinda... Minoriko's magic is high enough as is to heal most characters to full, cirno is more for slow and par than damage (or did that change? I forget). Chen is absolutely a great candidate though. Mind you her def/mnd is so low that even with stones she'll probably be 1shot by many things.

Stats need not be bad to take good advantage though. Nitori for example is a character with great power, but relatively low stats (before shooting sky high due to maintnence and good equipment). This is because her formulas are her strong point in her attack rather than her stats, soo.. Yeah. That and the value of gems kinda double after maintnence since gear multiplies your stats, which have now been affected by the gems.

That all said, gems are nice, and "better" in those cases, but they really dont make or break characters, because even with max use, the base stats on a character, even if low, are going to outperform the gems, unless we're talking about yuugi's mnd or something.

Defensive gems work the sme way but due to the fact that reducing damage by 1000 when you only took 1100 is a much bigger deal than reducing hits by 1000 when you take 10000, having them on someone with good defenses is probably not a less beneficial choice at all.

Speed gems on people like patchy are no brainers imo though. And yeah, atk gem and chen is excellent as well since shes another case of unspectacular stats with great formulas.

[suzushinayuriko]

Transcendant subclass + Full buffs + Overheating + Maintenance + Genji Glove equip (which has a chance of double damage) = Nitori dealing 1.5 million on Strengthened Memorized Knowledge. At level 122.

I'm honestly amazed they managed to make her more broken than in LoT1, where she could spam Megawatt Linear Gun later in the game without a care for MP restrictions.

[Kirin no Sora]

Personally, I think that Nitori should of been given something else instead of Maintenance. Seriously, that skill is too OP on anyone who isn't Renko(because she's more for support than anything else) and Rinnosuke(because even Maintenance can't help his situation much, given that he has no offensive spells at all).

Also, I checked the wiki recently, and apparently someone has been doing a lot of cleanup, since for one thing "Arm Twisting" is now called "Sheer Force" on said wiki. I'll investigate further into these changes and post what I find(unless someone else reports those changes first)...

Edit: Marisa's nonfunctional skill is from the current version of LoT2(version 1.203), correct?

Also, something is mentioned about Yuuka's Reflowering of Gensokyo being bugged, stating the bug as "Overheals?". Part of me is thinking that the healing portion of that spell is either no longer bound as a set percentage of the front line's Max HP, or that the amount that is healed had increased via spell leveling or something? Is it alright to ask someone to find out about that?

[Yookie]

It always heals 10% rounded down and doesn't "overheal" (I guess that is meant the way Eirin overheals) no matter the skilllevel.
The first one was with everyone having taken damage but less than 10%.
It also is unaffected by the Healer passive that increases healing done.

This is on V1.203

[Kirin no Sora]

How very strange. I guess that means that it's not bugged at all.

Also, for the record, someone had decided at some point that the "Pharmacologist" subclass would now be renamed as "Herbalist". Curious.

Edit: Quick question about Kaguya's "Dragon's neck Jewel" spell... Does it still ignore the enemies Mind completely? Because if it does, I'll have to write it into the Bugs section of the wiki, and if it doesn't, then I'll just have to clean up Kaguya's file in the Character's section...

[Yookie]

And about Nitori & Maintenance:

She actually took a huge nerf compared to LoT1 since her Super Scope 3D doesn't look nearly as cool as the Linear Megawatt Gun. That thing's basically a toy compared to the old one.

But really: Just don't take her with you if she makes it too easy for you. I took her with me for about 10 minutes on my first run and then dropped her because the gun didn't look good. :V
It's not like this is an online competitive game where you're bound to just using the best of the best.