Author Topic: Puzzle and Dragons Mafia- PAD IS OVER (GAME OVER) (Read 38252 times)

Shadoweh · « **Reply #330 on:** April 18, 2014, 03:49:30 AM »

I forget if I said so earlier, but I would be up for a PX lynch, but we've been down this road so many times, so many times before, I just want to lynch a scum, not lurktown evermore.
I'm sorry I forgot that you made a theory about Sky buddying up to his scum buddy so his scum buddy wouldn't vig him, because if you read what I just said the circular reasoning is le terible'.

Why would Sky's flip stop Dan from being scummy? The only reason you considered him scummy in the first place is because Sky was buddying him and you thought Sky was scummy? That's bullshit.

Serela · « **Reply #331 on:** April 18, 2014, 04:04:00 AM »

we're lynching px today just because no one agrees with eachother on anyone else being scummy, that's going to be what happens, isn't it

Raikaria · « **Reply #332 on:** April 18, 2014, 04:06:42 AM »

Quote from: Shadoweh on April 18, 2014, 03:49:30 AM

Why would Sky's flip stop Dan from being scummy? The only reason you considered him scummy in the first place is because Sky was buddying him and you thought Sky was scummy? That's bullshit.

Pretty much. I was saying 'I think Sky is scummy and Sky seems to be appealing to Dan. But I don't think Dan is scummy. Still, it's possible they could be buddies I guess.'

It wasn't exactly a confident statement of 'If Sky is scum Dan is scum 100%'. It was 'This could suggest that maybe'.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #333 on:** April 18, 2014, 04:10:39 AM »

I dunno, is anyone feeling a Dan or CF7 lynch like I am?

Raikaria · « **Reply #334 on:** April 18, 2014, 04:14:45 AM »

Not feeling either of them but if I had to consolidate on either of those two I would prefer CF7.

Rather see a PX lynch over those however.

And a Shadoweh lynch over that.

Zakeri is coming off pretty much null to me. Wouldn't lynch Bard.

Serela · « **Reply #335 on:** April 18, 2014, 04:15:32 AM »

You know, I just remembered how much control Dormio has over the lynch. `______________________________`

CF7 lynch would be coolbeans (but I'm already voting him so, obv), I feel like a Dan lynch would be a crapshoot and that roles mildly suggest he's town anyway.

Raitaki · « **Reply #336 on:** April 18, 2014, 04:15:56 AM »

I'm also down with a CF7 lynch, but there's still a bunch of time left in the day, and given the lack of posts to stare at I'd rather we not lynch yet.
Dan looks kinda null. He could have shot either of the PR claimers back in D1, but didn't, so there's that. Though it's also possible he avoided shooting us as scum to get towncred.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #337 on:** April 18, 2014, 04:17:19 AM »

Quote from: Raikaria on April 18, 2014, 04:06:42 AM

Pretty much. I was saying 'I think Sky is scummy and Sky seems to be appealing to Dan. But I don't think Dan is scummy. Still, it's possible they could be buddies I guess.'

Okay, but why. Like in a grandiose 'we could all be buddies together' way? Because if Sky was scum he would not be appealing to his buddy in the first place, so it was actually really unlikely they were scum together? BTW Why is Dan Semi-Confirmed Town to you, because he dayvigged a townie?

Serela, it's your own role that suggests Dan might be scum. You are specifically unable to be shot by Dan's vig.

Raikaria · « **Reply #338 on:** April 18, 2014, 04:22:50 AM »

Quote from: Shadoweh on April 18, 2014, 04:17:19 AM

Okay, but why. Like in a grandiose 'we could all be buddies together' way? Because if Sky was scum he would not be appealing to his buddy in the first place, so it was actually really unlikely they were scum together? BTW Why is Dan Semi-Confirmed Town to you, because he dayvigged a townie?

Serela, it's your own role that suggests Dan might be scum. You are specifically unable to be shot by Dan's vig.

Why? Because I'm me and *~crazy conspiracy theory~*. It's in my objective list Shadoweh. And when someone you think is scum is saying 'HELP ME ACTIONDAN' it makes you doubt the person being pleaded to.

I don't think that 'compulsive Day 1 one-shot vigilante' is a scum role. And he shot someone who was being useless. I say semi-confirmed because he is not as confirmed as Dormio, and certainly not as confirmed as Serela, but I am fairly confident due to rolespec.

Raikaria · « **Reply #339 on:** April 18, 2014, 04:23:28 AM »

Also I haven't seen anything which stands out as a red alert in Dan's posts, at least, nothing that stands out as a red alert to me.

Serela · « **Reply #340 on:** April 18, 2014, 04:24:17 AM »

Shadoweh uh? Are you suggesting a scum vig would EVER publically shoot the innocent child? I mean, rofl

And Raitaki, of course we wouldn't lynch right -now-

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #341 on:** April 18, 2014, 04:25:38 AM »

Alternatively, I could be pretty cool with a Raitaki lynch.
Decisions are hard.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #342 on:** April 18, 2014, 04:32:42 AM »

For serious though there were three PR softclaims and scum decided to shoot Rawr, the PR's are not likely to be all town. I think Raitiki is getting a whole bunch of unwarranted hate for clamining miller and being one of the few people who could fake it. Dan not shooting a PR is null because
A: NNR never had a chance to claim, so the only reason he didn't shoot one was chance,
B: If he HAD shot one of the blatantly PRing all over the floors, we would be screaming for his lynch.
Speaking of PR's. So Raitiki is a miller and wanted to out, and I don't want to waste my power on inelligble targets. What's your excuse for crumbing, Raikariaria?

Sereley: It's a possibility. What if we were wagoning Dan and he decided to kamikaze on you? You have to admit there's nice synergy there.

Quote from: Raikaria on April 18, 2014, 04:22:50 AM

Why? Because I'm me and *~crazy conspiracy theory~*. It's in my objective list Shadoweh. And when someone you think is scum is saying 'HELP ME ACTIONDAN' it makes you doubt the person being pleaded to.

I don't think that 'compulsive Day 1 one-shot vigilante' is a scum role. And he shot someone who was being useless. I say semi-confirmed because he is not as confirmed as Dormio, and certainly not as confirmed as Serela, but I am fairly confident due to rolespec.

No, why would it? Scum don't plea to their partners for reads in thread. In what world would Sky Paladin's first action be as scum to ask scum-Dan for reads, which makes people like you apparently think they're buddies? Scum want to convince _______ they're town, so they buddy up to people of the _____ alignment. <-- Fill in the blanks.

We have a Cop and a BP IC functionally flipped so far. Why not have a compulsive dayvig who shoots before scum can roleclawp anyone? Do you think scum dayvigs don't exist?

Raikaria · « **Reply #343 on:** April 18, 2014, 04:41:33 AM »

Quote from: Shadoweh on April 18, 2014, 04:32:42 AM

What's your excuse for crumbing, Raikariaria?

Well how many passive roles with no night actions can you think of Shadoweh? I'm not a Miller either, else I'd have counter-claimed Raitaki. I'm not hated, the votecounts prove that. That dosen't leave a very large pool.

Sorry but I do not feel like divulging about my role. I would rather the scum do not have more information than they already have.

Serela · « **Reply #344 on:** April 18, 2014, 04:46:31 AM »

um raikaria outed what they did because Dan was like "so I'm shooting one of you, claim or RIP"

Serela · « **Reply #345 on:** April 18, 2014, 04:48:43 AM »

Anyway "but if we're lynching the scum vig then they could totally kill the innocent child" is a really specific situation and if the scum vig were getting lynched d1 I think it'd be fair for them to be able to off the IC anyway >> Really, my bullet-proof-ness doesn't have any bearing on whether Dan's is scum or not, unless you want to go to the degree of "I think this is an alright balance trade in terms of power level" but that's even more unreliable levels of modguessing.

PX · « **Reply #346 on:** April 18, 2014, 06:04:06 AM »

Some of you may be wondering where have I been. Yeah, I don't have to answer that :dealwithit:

Off the bat, we have a weird vote by Shadoweh, especially since I don't see Rawr ACTUALLY going after Raikaria, and it seems like she's citing him for the vote

Dan continuing off Raitaki is also strange, since... there's really no reason since his vote back in ED1

And then Raikaria's post is all sorts of dumb. There's only one confirmed town, and the mod says he's bulletproof. Why would the scum take a chance on the mod lying?

Raikaria's #276 and #277 irk me the wrong way. Probably the sarcastic and passive aggressive tone.

Raikaria's really big "case" on Shadoweh is just silly. It's a big case of paranoia and shifting everything he sees into a certain point of view. Also, your "scumslips" also fall into the category of... here's your words.

Quote from: Raikaria on April 17, 2014, 02:51:00 AM

I know it's weak reasoning. It's also semi tongue-in-cheek. Can people stop focusing on the not-100% serious stuff at the start of the post and comment on my theory about Shadoweh being smart?

Raitaki's 300 pretty much brings him to a solid not scum for me

Raikaria's 318 looks like mad appeasing to salvage a losing war

And lots of mess

tl;dr

Day 2 doesn't really give me much. Just that Raikaria's gone crazy, although I'm reading it more as scum desperation than town paranoia, which entitles me to think Shadoweh is scum despite her starting reasons to vote Raikaria. Raitaki is reading more town to me, and Dan is all sorts of

Don't like what he's got, but don't think we should lynch. Everyone else I kind of need to read D1 to get a feel over.

##Vote Raikaria

For shit case on Shadoweh, along with appeasing tone on his 318, attacking Shadoweh's jokes while telling everybody else to ignore his, a strange tone with his 276 and 277, and

Raikaria · « **Reply #347 on:** April 18, 2014, 06:14:37 AM »

Not aware Shadoweh was making any real jokes.

And I don't get half of what you're even saying PX. Shadoweh's vote is weird; yet my case is 'shit' for going after her for said weird vote, in tandem with that vote being 'weird' for pretty much the same reasons as her Sky vote?

And the end of your post just makes me ?

Quote from: PX on April 18, 2014, 06:04:06 AM

tl;dr

Day 2 doesn't really give me much. Just that Raikaria's gone crazy, although I'm reading it more as scum desperation than town paranoia, which entitles me to think Shadoweh is scumdespite her starting reasons to vote Raikaria.

Seriously, what are you trying to say here? 'Raikaria's gone crazy and is flailing against his scumbuddy while Shadoweh is voting her scumbuddy for no reason'?

Raikaria · « **Reply #348 on:** April 18, 2014, 06:18:57 AM »

I mean the jist of what I'm getting from that last part is 'Raikaria is scum because I'm voting him. Shadoweh is scum too'. I'm not sure how you can get the impression that we are both scum.

PX · « **Reply #349 on:** April 18, 2014, 06:29:52 AM »

Alright, I have no idea what I see in Dan. Like, the post where he claims vig is halfway into day 1. Why would you wait that long to suddenly go "lol I'm a vig and I have to shoot." On top of that, his targets are never explained, they're just out of the blue. Why would you even be set on which few people you want to shoot without consolidating with town before then? The last weird part is where he goes "claim or die." If you had 3 people you were choosing from, why would you just tell all 3 of them to claim instead of consolidating on one and asking that person to claim so scum gets less information? Yeah, I don't know

CUT: I meant town, not scum >_>

PX · « **Reply #350 on:** April 18, 2014, 06:30:05 AM »

Shadoweh be town

Raikaria · « **Reply #351 on:** April 18, 2014, 06:39:26 AM »

And what makes Shadoweh town despite her 'strange vote'? Preferably without using 'Raikaria made a case I think is dumb'.

PX · « **Reply #352 on:** April 18, 2014, 06:46:19 AM »

I like the rest of her posts, simple enough

Raikaria · « **Reply #353 on:** April 18, 2014, 06:49:49 AM »

So what do you like about her initial vote on Sky_Paladin for 'badreasoning.org'? Which she never elaborated on.

PX · « **Reply #354 on:** April 18, 2014, 07:02:52 AM »

bad reasoning. you know, sky palladium voting raitaki for being "oversensitive over his claim" which a LOT of people called out on

Raikaria · « **Reply #355 on:** April 18, 2014, 07:11:53 AM »

Well, you know what? At least you're active now.

I don't really see anyone else worth voting, so I'm gonna move back to Shadoweh now my reason for a temporary votepark/prodvote on you has passed, and I've re-ready Zakeri and Bard and... well... Zakeri's kinda null and Bard is not getting lynched.

Which basically only leaves Shadoweh I think as scum. Well, and you for defending Shadoweh and not being confirmed town like Serela, but my thinking you as scum is conditional on Shadoweh being scum, so I'd rather vote Shadoweh.

#Unvote
#Vote: Shadoweh

Raikaria · « **Reply #356 on:** April 18, 2014, 07:14:17 AM »

Basic read list:

Shadoweh - Scum
PX - Probobly scum
Bard - Town
Raitaki - Null
Zakeri - Null
CF7 - Very slight town lead, and this is gut. He's seemed pretty level-headed despite all the stuff thrown at him which makes my gut think town
Serela - Confirmed Town
Dan - Pretty confident he's town
Dormio - Very confident he is town
Me - Town

PX · « **Reply #357 on:** April 18, 2014, 08:00:33 AM »

So basically, whoever is voting you is scum :V

Shadoweh · « **Reply #358 on:** April 18, 2014, 08:00:45 AM »

Quote from: Serela on April 18, 2014, 04:46:31 AM

um raikaria outed what they did because Dan was like "so I'm shooting one of you, claim or RIP"

"I'm a town pr plz don't shoot me qq" Dan hadn't decided on who he was shooting actually, Raikaria just decided he was 'just curious' why he was a target beffore blabbing alot more then he had to. Dan was focused on NNR.

Also: "Well you're active, but you're probably still scum, so I'm going to move back to Shadoweh while still calling both of you scum lololol"

Raikaria · « **Reply #359 on:** April 18, 2014, 08:20:52 AM »

Quote from: PX on April 18, 2014, 08:00:33 AM

So basically, whoever is voting you is scum :V

You're scum for defending Shadoweh.

It's co-incidental that the people voting me are scum. By your own admission Shadoweh's initial vote on me is bad.

Quote from: Shadoweh on April 18, 2014, 08:00:45 AM

"I'm a town pr plz don't shoot me qq" Dan hadn't decided on who he was shooting actually, Raikaria just decided he was 'just curious' why he was a target beffore blabbing alot more then he had to. Dan was focused on NNR.

Also: "Well you're active, but you're probably still scum, so I'm going to move back to Shadoweh while still calling both of you scum lololol"

I'm more confident that you are scum than PX. Hence PX was listed 'probobly scum' and you are 'scum'.