Author Topic: Puzzle and Dragons Mafia- PAD IS OVER (GAME OVER) (Read 38224 times)

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #150 on:** April 14, 2014, 02:20:44 AM »

The only role shenanigans that are relevant are that Dan is a dayvig, I can extend the deadline, and that I am unlynchable barring a quicklynch while I'm not on.
More importantly, there are people of interest that you should be reading Selery.

Schezo · « **Reply #151 on:** April 14, 2014, 02:21:52 AM »

Cut from getting the top of the page: Round 4

Raitaki (3): Zakeri, Serela, Dr Rawr
Dormio (2): Bardiche, Raikaria
Sky Paladin (2): Shadoweh, CF7
CF7 (3): Dormio, Raitaki, NNR
NNR (2): PX, Action Dan
Shadoweh (1): Sky Paladin

Not Voting: Nobody

With 13 left Alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
There are ~19 and a half hours left in the day.

Raikaria · « **Reply #152 on:** April 14, 2014, 02:24:28 AM »

Quote from: Raitaki on April 13, 2014, 11:24:50 PM

Wait what? What made you go from "I'm not seeing the case on Raitaki" to "you should shoot Raitaki"?

Out of the three Dan listed. One of which is myself. NNR is reserved judgement simply because he's not posted or anything. At least shooting you would verify the miller thing.

Also, Raitaki, he claims he is a Compulsive Day 1 vig. He can't change his mind about shooting.

Speaking of the shot, honestly Dan should shoot sooner rather than later. If he shoots too late in the day we're gonna be in a mad rush to lynch someone as well because of the vote reset.

I am also curious why Sky is not on Dan's shooting list. Especially with Sky somewhat appealing specifically to Dan to back him up here. I wouldn't throw out the possibility of a Dan/Sky scumteam here, except I don't think from Dan's posts that he's too scummy. Sky is leaning scum on my account.

His general reaction to Shadoweh's vote on him also seems somewhat overblown.

I don't think my Dormio vote is warranted anymore either, specially with his claim. So Sky it is.

##Unvote
##Vote: Sky_Paladin

Raikaria · « **Reply #153 on:** April 14, 2014, 02:25:48 AM »

Also Dan, if you really want me to do so, I can divulge more role information than I have, but I would rather not do so. A reminder:

- I do not have an ability which I have any control over at the present time
- I do have an ability [I am not a 'Nilla]

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #154 on:** April 14, 2014, 02:51:12 AM »

Quote from: raikaria

I don't think my Dormio vote is warranted anymore either, specially with his claim. So Sky it is.

just to clarify this for me but youre unvoting dormio because you think his role could be more town aligned and not really scummy?

Quote from: raikaria

I am also curious why Sky is not on Dan's shooting list. Especially with Sky somewhat appealing specifically to Dan to back him up here. I wouldn't throw out the possibility of a Dan/Sky scumteam here, except I don't think from Dan's posts that he's too scummy. Sky is leaning scum on my account.

i also have to ask even though sky tried to buddy up with dan before the claim what kind of brownie points could he have gotten from him? specifically why would someone try to buddy up with dan?

@dormio, what qualifies as a quick lynch and what do you mean when youre not online?

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #155 on:** April 14, 2014, 02:58:59 AM »

Just if I'm lynched while I'm not at the computer because I can stop any and all attempts at lynching me with my power that can be activated at any time.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #156 on:** April 14, 2014, 02:59:45 AM »

Anyway, I'm going to be heading home now so that I can get to the more fun things.

Raikaria · « **Reply #157 on:** April 14, 2014, 03:13:37 AM »

Quote from: Dr Rawr on April 14, 2014, 02:51:12 AM

just to clarify this for me but youre unvoting dormio because you think his role could be more town aligned and not really scummy?

Well I don't buy an 'unlynchable scum'. And besides, my general opinion of Sky is gradually getting worse the more I think about it, while my opinion of Dormio gets a bit better.

Raikaria · « **Reply #158 on:** April 14, 2014, 03:14:05 AM »

Also I don't think 'extending the day phase to give town more time to think' is a pro-scum action.

Raikaria · « **Reply #159 on:** April 14, 2014, 03:14:34 AM »

Especially with the possibility of Actiondan resetting the votes near the deadline, especially if his shot is scum-aligned [Which I doubt].

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #160 on:** April 14, 2014, 03:18:26 AM »

@sky paladin
im pretty sure anyone could probably take some of shadowehs posts each game and say theyre scummy and faking town effort but how does this differ from her usual "shit" posts? also were you being serious about dan guessing scum correctly? usually i see him each game list at least half the current player list as potential scum which i guess as people are killed could lead to scum with in that list. so i think saying he finds scum that easy isnt really true

Quote from: cf7

Claiming miller is not a fun thing to do. I dunno about others, i would be oversensitive too about my miller claim in any case (i.e. if i am actually a miller claiming miller, or scum gambitting on claiming miller)

claiming miller isnt hard you just say it and play the game. raitakis reaction is weird because anyone has a right to doubt the miller claim, why not prove town by playing the game and cathcing scum? instead his reaction is to vote skypaladin because he doubted the claim.

##Unvote
##Vote: Skypaladin
tbh i think its just scum flailing around

-cut-
oh i see how it works now

-cut2-
well okay then

Serela · « **Reply #161 on:** April 14, 2014, 04:09:14 AM »

Quote from: SkyPaladin

Ergo you just passive aggressive hey let's suppress somebody's argument by discrediting them.

Um, Shadoweh's line about merging the Rais could even be so far as to be called a silly joke, I don't know how you're taking it in this kind of manner. :C

...okay, to be honest, most of the time I meant to be relaxing and then rereading mafia instead ended up being TAX SHENANIGANS and WHY IS THE COOKING LIKE THIS OH NO YOU GRABBED THE HOT POT BY THE NOT-SAFE-PART (okay maybe that one was too long for this kind of statement format) so even though I'm trying to reread the game it's already too late >_>; I admit to being legitimately terrible right now.

Honestly though I do want to lynch Raitaki, it's just I don't have the brainpower or time to make a case right now (I should already be in bed due to when work is tomorrow), but I can definitely see where the case on SkyP is coming from and I'm okay with that lynch too.

I think SkyPaladin's flip could be pretty useful informationally even if he's town but I'm too sleepy to be correctly functional so I should probably just shut up and sleep instead of babbling

Although @Dan, I'm much more interested in Raitaki being shot than someone who hasn't really participated, given that lurking isn't the scummiest offense when it's only 48 hours into a game. Also it means I could have both Raitaki -and- SkyP's delicious flips right away <3

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #162 on:** April 14, 2014, 04:15:44 AM »

Yomi-chan! How about now?

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Yomi-chan? Yomi-chan!

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Are you ignoring me?

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Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #163 on:** April 14, 2014, 04:18:26 AM »

Anyway, let's see here.
Update on CF7, stuff about Raikaria, and rereads of Sky Palladium, Zakeri, and Raitaki.
Oh, and still waiting to see what NekoNekoRex makes of what's happened so far.
Alright, let's do this.

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #164 on:** April 14, 2014, 04:24:11 AM »

Quote from: Shadoweh on April 13, 2014, 07:14:25 PM

What is wrong with you people? The only thing I want to know is if Bardiche is Tall, Dark and Handsome. Don't tell me about your other shitty colors.

Alas, once again Shadoweh forgoes my heart, even when it matches perfectly.

No response to the role madness except for please shoot Raitaki.

Re: 138 yes, the misunderstanding of the amount of times CF7 switched from null to suspect did amplify the feeling I got from reading the exchange, but even going back and forth twice on it doesn't change the fact that "I don't know if he's scum or not" and "I want to look into his posting further" isn't as huge a leap as you're making it.

It also doesn't shake the feeling I've gotten that town would immediately jump on the contradiction and then investigate. Especially since, uhh ...
actually, I have to ask, how RVS was your vote on Sky Paladin before that? It looks pretty RVS, so I think my reasoning still follows that you had no reason as town to wait for the pounce.

Bard pretty much hits the nail on the head when it comes to why I don't like Sky's push of Shadoweh. It feels like Scum struggling horribly to not fall into the traps of being completely inactive on day one, trying to hammer the square peg that is "Shadoweh's posts" into the Round hole of "Coming from scum."
Also, I'm like 95% certain that I did explain my vote on Raitaki, so you're going to have to narrow down your question.

Cut by Serela being cute.

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #165 on:** April 14, 2014, 04:26:04 AM »

I'm actually super down with the Skytaki double dip, not that people couldn't have already guessed.

Raitaki · « **Reply #166 on:** April 14, 2014, 04:49:59 AM »

@Zak: Maybe our points of view are different, I think the flip-flopping was scummy because it seemed he changed his opinion just from people asking him about it. And even if it's not such a huge leap, I don't really see how thinking otherwise makes me scum. Also the Sky_Pal vote was to pressure him to see how responds to my question at him, but CF7 flopping again made me decide that he really was just appeasing to pressure so I voted him instead.

Juggling a bunch of homework and stuff right now, so gonna try to reread tomorrow
I don't really wanna die or claim early with this role, and several are apparently interested in telling Dan to shoot me so I guess I'll fullclaim in an hour or two if this keeps on :S

Raitaki · « **Reply #167 on:** April 14, 2014, 05:49:26 AM »

On second thought, I refuse to full claim. I uphold the miller claim, and here's the flavor:
I'm Snow White, not from PAD (something something Dragon Poker something) and treated as Green/Light (yuck). I return guilty results cuz everyone hates me for being ~~different~~ awesome.

Aaand now to pray I don't die horribly one way or another before D2.

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #168 on:** April 14, 2014, 06:05:18 AM »

id vig him for claiming something out of flavor

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #169 on:** April 14, 2014, 06:15:20 AM »

on another note i guess not seeing as i just read the opening post and pad clones are scum i guess :colbert:

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #170 on:** April 14, 2014, 06:17:32 AM »

either super lame scum gambit or probably town. ill give raitaki credit and assume hes actually miller and w/e else he is. not interested in lynching him at this point

Raitaki · « **Reply #171 on:** April 14, 2014, 06:51:03 AM »

Oh about that, my role PM says Dragon Poker is so much superior that it's not actually killing the genre so I'm still town. Or something.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #172 on:** April 14, 2014, 08:02:28 AM »

Anyway, firstly, CF7.
Basically I think my thoughts in regards to CF7 right now is that I like my case on him and I don't really see a reason from any of his responses to me to change my mind.
Not entirely sure why he feels the need to fish for Shadoweh's role here either.
Whatever.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #173 on:** April 14, 2014, 08:02:59 AM »

The fact that Raitaki is sticking to the CF7 does make me somewhat apprehensive though.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #174 on:** April 14, 2014, 08:09:14 AM »

How to sneakily ask Chaore if Dragon Poker is his new favorite game now..
I would prefer if the entire game did not claim on Day 1 as well.
I'm outright ignoring a bunch of comments about my posts being shit because if I think about them too long I'll probably get very angry at you all! 8D

To be fair we probably shouldn't shoot Sky while he's at Disneyland. I get the feeling that would stop him from posting.
I don't vote people for voting my buddies though. Scumdoweh votes weak people for being easy and weak, and because being on popular wagons is cool. On the other hand Town Shadoweh is charismatic and sexy and all the boys want to get on that wagon with her. To be fair I could have voted Dan as scum, but I don't think as scum I would have stopped. I stopped to read his post and have determined Sky P. hates my posting style still.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #175 on:** April 14, 2014, 08:09:45 AM »

Oh yeah, I officially don't think CF7 is scum, so if he is he's at least doing a better job then last time!

PX · « **Reply #176 on:** April 14, 2014, 09:02:17 AM »

Finally back home. At 2am uhhhhhhh

Cya tomorrow

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #177 on:** April 14, 2014, 09:53:55 AM »

Might as well talk about Raitaki next while I'm on that note.
I really don't like the way he latched onto my CF7 case.
Like, I dunno, it feels to me like Raitaki was trying to spin what I said in order to bait CF7 into an unwinnable situation.
Zakeri mentioned this and the fact that Raitaki backed off so quickly when called out on it makes me think quite a bit.

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lol PX.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #178 on:** April 14, 2014, 10:51:22 AM »

By the way, since the current deadline is at 8AM for me, I'd like for you guys to refrain from hammering in case I'm a little bit late.
I should be on the computer by 7:30 at the latest.

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #179 on:** April 14, 2014, 12:12:12 PM »

My V/LA bit starts in less than an hour.

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Also the Sky_Pal vote was to pressure him to see how responds to my question at him,

Okay, this somewhat defeats my earlier point which is that town wouldn't have any reason to not jump on CF7 by virtue of being almost kind of a reason. All this really does though is bring you up to reasonable doubt, which doesn't save you in this game on it's own. I still don't see any true town intent in your posts, and nobody else has pointed out any either.