Medaka Box Mafia - GAME OVER

[Conqueror]

Eh.

I want a summary of the last three pages.

BT, did you ever do anything with this? Next post I saw was you disappearing and saying you were lazy.

[Bardiche]

RE: BT's comment about my lack of care of the CF7 wagon. I didn't think people'd actually lynch CF7 over what started as RVS shenanigans. That's a rarity. By the time I realised I wasn't dreaming and this was real life, well. That's where people go all, "Bard is teh scums for ignoring CF7"

Conq. I've no idea when my most recent game as Scum was. I tracked Sky Paladin because I also had a neighbour who was stubborn and insistent, and after being told repeatedly how dumb I am for not seeing how obvscum Sky Paladin was, I wanted to get as sure of that as I could with my role.

[Shadoweh]

That wasn't just a random comment, I had guessed from the 'own brand of justice' that he would become a Vig when motivated. Setup spec Strong. You can put all the words in one post, what are you Dormio?

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Votecount
BT (1): Bardiche
Bardiche (1): BT
Conqueror (0):
Sky Paladin (0):
Shadoweh (0):

Not voting: Conqueror, Sky Paladin, Shadoweh

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

You have ~2.75 hours remaining

[Bardiche]

Conq: That reminds me that BT was disapproving there first:

I won't be getting to this after all but I'm honestly surprised we're going for the Kingault slot.

Later on he posts about newbscum[ and stuff, but BT never puts his vote down either way and is content just cheerleading the wagon.

[Bardiche]

2.75 hours remaining. Can I just go play Payday 2 and forget about all this? With everyone going, "Yeah I wanna vote Bard anyway" and ignoring anything I post (see Sky Pal completely ignoring any rebuttals I give). I feel like I put more effort into responding than people put into reading what I write.

Well, aside from Conq who's apparently scourging all the archives for my play.

[BT]

BT, did you ever do anything with this? Next post I saw was you disappearing and saying you were lazy.

Evidently, no. I wanted to, then I didn't. I wasn't really into it at the time.

RE: BT's comment about my lack of care of the CF7 wagon. I didn't think people'd actually lynch CF7 over what started as RVS shenanigans. That's a rarity. By the time I realised I wasn't dreaming and this was real life, well. That's where people go all, "Bard is teh scums for ignoring CF7"

That's not specifically what I was saying there - you comprehensively covered all of the counterwagons and consolidation options. Yet the CF7 wagon got the "if people want to show me why he's scum" treatment.

It was pointed out to me that Sky Paladin said that it wasn't the case that he couldn't claim anything but VT. If I had a track result on him acting after all and it corresponded to that Night's kill target, you can imagine stuff needs to be said. Anyone else targeted? A negative effect points to maliciously lying, a positive effect would be that he indeed couldn't claim.

Considering you thought Sky was town because of his restriction, it's convenient that you were made aware that that wasn't the case... at some point after. How exactly did this unfold?

[Bardiche]

Considering you thought Sky was town because of his restriction, it's convenient that you were made aware that that wasn't the case... at some point after. How exactly did this unfold?

NekoNekoRex, Neighbour QT, utterly convinced Sky Paladin is lying scum due to interactions (or lack thereof) with CF7 wagon.

I didn't think he was Town because of the restriction, I thought he was Town because the claim sounded genuine. The part where the mod goes "there are no VTs" and Sky claims "I'm a VT" seemed solvable by "restricted into claiming VT"─it sounded better at the time than "Scum!Sky Paladin was afraid of counter-claims so claimed VT" as NNR put it.

I was never made aware that it "wasn't the case". It was pointed out to me that there was absolutely nothing supporting my thoughts as Sky Paladin himself stated that it wasn't the case. In the melee of words, that was lost to me.

[Conqueror]

Hey BT, are you a third party?

[Conqueror]

Nevermind, ignore that. :V
I'm just annoyed at Dormio not flipping modkilled people but Serela was probably town on rethinking.
Also, Shadoweh, clearly I've inherited Dormio's posting quirks.
Next thing you know I'll start posting with line breaks everywhere.

[BT]

Not a third party. Serela PROBABLY is town.

I should have gone to sleep already. If there's anything else you need, ask away.

[Conqueror]

##Vote: BT
Gut, plus roles.
:yukkuri:

I realized that the reasoning for the track of Sky_Paladin wasn't as telling as I thought, because he was blocked that night. He could have claimed a track on anyone.

[Conqueror]

##Unvote

[BT]

He could have claimed it on anyone but still had to choose someone. We can look at the choice and see if it fits and it actually happened or it was just chosen because it made sense.

Jeez, that was scary. I'll seriously be unhappy if I'm actually lynched because it would probably fall into the "because I let them slide" lynches in my town resume. It's not even that I haven't done anything today - I did - but I guess I could have done more. Even if it does happen, I have enough faith that everyone but Bard isn't scum and that Bard is. If I'm lynched and then Bard, and he flips town, it's obviously GG. If Bard's lynched and flips town, I'd probably be lynched in LYLO anyway. So I guess it doesn't matter that much! So much for that.

[Conqueror]

If you keep reacting like that I won't have the balls to vote you. :V

[Conqueror]

There's a reason I was looking at Shadoweh earlier today; usually by this point of the game I have pretty strong scum reads on people. But the only reason I really think you're scum is PoE + roles. I've thought your play was town the entire game. Same with Bard. I see how his play right now could be interpreted as scumplaining. But it also just plain looks like someone giving up. It could mean I'm rusty, or maybe this entire situation is just wrong.

The thing is that after reviewing Shadoweh's defense of herself it's pretty rock solid. She could have gotten away with executing Dan, even if everyone wanted to lynch Zak. She had enough cred from the D1 lynch and Zak governing himself would create enough of a distraction that she'd probably be safe. And Zak's interactions with her really do seem like they're not on the same team. That, plus I know Shadoweh doesn't actually believe in hard bussing her teammates D1. :V

Sky, his effort and the way he claimed on D2 just seem town. Plus the vig shot. I wanted to think he was possible third party, but possible third party absolutely would not claim VT if they were looking to be the lynch of the day.

So it's back between Bard and BT for me and I keep going back and forth. Here, have my waffles in print form so you can see why this game is just too hard.

[BT]

If it's needed for LYLO: another strong case for Town Conq is this entire Day 6. Still going.

I think I'll be going now. Hope to wake up to postgame.

[Shadoweh]

Damnit Conq I could have quickhammered and ended these waffles :<
I don't have strong scum reads either. Usually when BT is scum I'm writing a novel about how scummy he is, maybe it's because I didn't have a night phase to post it in. Sky is in a class of Town above and beyond and Conq keeps trying to make me think he's scum is probably town on play?

Honestly I hate having to defend myself because no one ever wants to take my word for it as Town, but after Long John Raikaria decided The Naughty Shadoweh was a better choice then the obvscum lurker with the creepy face I feel a little more offended. Almost as offended as I am for still being alive. Over Rawr. And Neko.

[Sky_Paladin]

Ok I'm here. 

Bard:  I don't think you are Stalin in any way.  But I'm a Gemini so my subconscious goes down some wickedly malicious rabbit holes.  Last night I didn't have any mafia dreams so I'm a little disappointed.  I was hoping to have a baking class with Shadoweh or something.  Anyway. 

I'm a little...well, let's be honest.  It's really a good compliment to the last remaining scum player that at this hour we still have no good feeling either way.  That's why, one of the reasons I picked Bard for scum was that earlier he was slamming the scum team for 'five flavors of retarded'.  You just don't say that as a respectful opponent.  Unless you are, you know, false-criticising yourself or distancing. 

Reading.

[Conqueror]

##Vote: Bardiche
Well, let's hope you're not scum buddying me. I'm notoriously susceptible to buddying.

As for Shadoweh's mystery of the setup.
Judging from Zak's role pm, it looks like his kill ability was in his pm from the start (given his first ability mentions she has a minus of her own). So maybe CF7's kills weren't actually inheritable by Zak, and by extension, rawr. Dormio's nonanswer answer said that most restrictions were shown in that pm, but there's a redacted section, plus maybe some hidden interactions somewhere.
Rawr could have inherited abnormalities in a different form from the original form.
Bardiche could be bulletproof.
I have no answer to why the scumteam has a ninja for what is presumably only a self-watcher, besides Dormio gave the scum JOAT two ninja powers when the only tracker/watcher was Shadoweh's one-shot conditionally activated one.

[Conqueror]

*scum JOAT in Rewrite Mafia

[Conqueror]

that first line was aimed at BT

[Conqueror]

I'm probably done for today. I'm going to go eat and hopefully I'll come back to postgame!

[Bardiche]

I'm probably done for today. I'm going to go eat and hopefully I'll come back to postgame!

I'll have to disappoint you there, but maybe BT'll kill you tonight for solace.

[Shadoweh]

He better fucking not kill Conq over me. >:< BT I WILL LYNCH YOU SO HARD IF YOU DON'T NIGHTKILL ME

[BT]

I'M NOT SCUM ;-;

If Bard isn't scum I'll probably just consider self-voting in LYLO out of... fuck.

[Bardiche]

I'M NOT SCUM ;-;

If Bard isn't scum I'll probably just consider self-voting in LYLO out of... fuck.

If you're Town then you owe it to everyone not to fucking self-lynch after shoving me into the mislynch.

[Sky_Paladin]

I have no answer to why the scumteam has a ninja for what is presumably only a self-watcher, besides Dormio gave the scum JOAT two ninja powers when the only tracker/watcher was Shadoweh's one-shot conditionally activated one.

Pretty much this.  It's why I thought 1 v 1 Shadoweh/Bard in the first place.  Only Shadoweh is super town and I can't think of any actual scum role that would self target night 1 except for scum doc. 

Shadoweh keeps saying she'll be nightkilled when it will totally be me :/

Sigh why do we always have this hour and a half drama.  Well that's what I get for shooting the easy mislynch.  Sigh. 

OK. 

[Conqueror]

Whichever one of you is scum deserves a fucking Oscar.

##Unvote
I'll be back.

[Shadoweh]

CONQ
COME ON
STOP WAFFLING ON ME HERE
LETS JUST FUCKING DO THIS

Sky, I don't think us mislynching Dan would be any better :V