Author Topic: Omerta - Town of Mafia (Game over Scum wins) (Read 42874 times)

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #600 on:** March 06, 2014, 01:35:39 AM »

And Dan also claimed VT which does not exist = second scum.

GG folks. You should have hit Raikaria or Oarfish; and then counter claimed DNA's vanilla town claim.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #601 on:** March 06, 2014, 01:36:07 AM »

Last chance before the slammer

Action Dan (2): Raikaria, Sky_Paladin

Not voting: them other doods

Action Dan is at L-2

With 6 mooks kicking, it takes 4 to lynch.
You have like 3 days still
~*~It's LYLO LYLO Gotta get down on LYLO~*~

Raikaria · « **Reply #602 on:** March 06, 2014, 01:36:43 AM »

Cut by Sky: My math was off. I calculated for 12p instead of 13p. There is probobly 1 VT left in the game unless there is something that we do not know.

I still think Dan makes more sense as scum than Serela however.

ActionDan · « **Reply #603 on:** March 06, 2014, 01:37:52 AM »

##Vote: SkyPal

Serela vote him.

Unless you think Raikaria/Schezo are both scum and the D2 guilty play was a massive gambit.

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #604 on:** March 06, 2014, 01:39:42 AM »

Not quite, Raikaria~

13 players
We have MMCCCVD = 7 letters. So that's three scum, one goon, one godfather, one roleblocker.
7 + 3 = 10; so add three more vanilla townies to the mix.
There's one double C so add one more vanilla towny, equals 4 vanilla townies all up.

Serela <-scum
Sky_Paladin <-- CC
O4rfish <-- M
ActionDan <--scum
Raikaria <--D
Schezo <--C
CF7 <--T
Mitsuki <--M
Cheez8 <--T
NNR <-- scum
PX <-- V
Zakeri <-- T
DNA <-- T

The vanilla townies are (were) Zakeri, CF7, DarkNinjaABC, and Cheez8. That's four used up vanilla towny slots. So anybody claiming vanilla towny (That's ActionDan and Serela) is scum.

Raikaria · « **Reply #605 on:** March 06, 2014, 01:41:09 AM »

I say Dan makes more sense because Serela seems to have slightly more town going for him. Day 1 in particular is quite townish, as several pointed out. Dan has done the tried and tested scum tactic of largely lurking in the background.

I also feel like pointing out this:

Quote from: Doriano "The Rat" Grigio on February 28, 2014, 03:23:31 AM

The end of day two

PX (1): Raikaria
Schezo (1): Nekonekorex
NekoNekoRex (6): Schezo, Serela, PX, Sky Paladin, Oarfish, Zakeri

Dan did not lynch NNR. Serela did. Admittedly I did not either, but this lynch and Scezo's cop report happened while I was sleeping @_@

Also wait my math was right? So Dan's attempting to cover him or Serela's hide by saying otherwise?

Well that just makes it even more damning for Dan. Also he's appealing to Serela to vote Paladin.

Raikaria · « **Reply #606 on:** March 06, 2014, 01:41:46 AM »

But again, where we stand, it appears Dan is scum no matter which way we slice the cake.

Serela · « **Reply #607 on:** March 06, 2014, 01:43:20 AM »

SO MUCH FUN BEING HAD

I can see now that dan+skypal scumteam with one-shot schezo and doc raikaria works out too. So it's that if Schezo isn't a fullcop. From the viewpoint of me knowing I'm town, at least.

Also Raikaria that's 14 players, you forgot to take out a PR for that possibility where SkyPal is lying.

Dan:No, not until Schezo confirms he's not a fullcop. If he is it'd SkyPal+Raikaria lying. ...oh. Uh. Wait. No wait I meant is- oh wait that's also skypaladin.

...oh.

well I see you have a point here `_____________________________________________`

##Vote SkyPaladin

SkyPal:That's only true if none of the PRs are lying.
Raikaria:Actually, in this logic puzzle, if you assume I'm town then SkyPaladin is actually confirmed scum. Unless I'm mixing everything up here which I totally might be :S (Dan is only not-scum if you're scum yourself raikaria so alright)

Serela · « **Reply #608 on:** March 06, 2014, 01:43:38 AM »

I feel bad for Schezo when he comes back to this.

Serela · « **Reply #609 on:** March 06, 2014, 01:44:32 AM »

(also o4rfish)

ActionDan · « **Reply #610 on:** March 06, 2014, 01:44:40 AM »

If I were scum I would have killed off Raikaria for being an obvious Power role and not gambled on Raikaria saving either Oarfish/Schezo.

Nor would I have expected another Cop = CC.

The weird part is that I think this makes Serela scum with you.

And also it makes Serela have to think I'm scum with you.

LOL.

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #611 on:** March 06, 2014, 01:45:31 AM »

Hey, does anybody remember this?

Dan already told us who his scumbuddies are.

ActionDan · « **Reply #612 on:** March 06, 2014, 01:47:53 AM »

I'm more impressed that Serela is most likely probably scum believe me than anything else

ActionDan · « **Reply #613 on:** March 06, 2014, 01:49:24 AM »

So skypal.

Any reason you're focusing your attacks against me in particular?

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #614 on:** March 06, 2014, 01:50:09 AM »

Quote

I can see now that dan+skypal scumteam with one-shot schezo and doc raikaria works out too. So it's that if Schezo isn't a fullcop. From the viewpoint of me knowing I'm town, at least.

It does not work out. Because then:
MMVCD and five vanilla townies. Both Serela and Dan have claimed vanilla townies. There can only be one vanilla towny, even if I was lying about being cop.

Therefore it is a 1 v 1 of ActionDan versus Serela, if either of them were actually a towny.

Instead, what we have is the two counterclaimers voting together, for the same person.

So, there's no other conclusion. They are the scums.

Serela · « **Reply #615 on:** March 06, 2014, 01:55:46 AM »

Quote from: Sky_Paladin on March 06, 2014, 01:50:09 AM

Therefore it is a 1 v 1 of ActionDan versus Serela, if either of them were actually a towny.
So, there's no other conclusion. They are the scums.

Not if Schezo is fullcop!

Can you tell I still really, really want to believe Raikaria is scum? ;_;

ActionDan · « **Reply #616 on:** March 06, 2014, 01:55:53 AM »

^ nice casework. there's still Schezo to confirm he's actually a 1-shot cop which makes the vote on you strictly better.

And it's a 1town v 2scum anyway so there really isn't any prejudice in voting either you or Serela.

ActionDan · « **Reply #617 on:** March 06, 2014, 01:57:09 AM »

goddamn. do you see how much I want Serela to be town?

those are such gorgeous posts.

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #618 on:** March 06, 2014, 02:01:49 AM »

Schezo will not claim full cop, even if he was somehow scum, because that would actually confirm him as scum.

You are both caught out counterclaiming a role that does not exist.

It is effectively game over. Will you concede?

Serela · « **Reply #619 on:** March 06, 2014, 02:10:03 AM »

Quote from: Sky_Paladin on March 06, 2014, 02:01:49 AM

Schezo will not claim full cop, even if he was somehow scum, because that would actually confirm him as scum.

um no it would just mean either him or raikaria are scum

You really, -really- want to go to all lengths to fanatically assume Raikaria is confirmed town don't you? (Almost as much as I want to fanatically assume he's scum I know don't bring it up go away ;_;)

Quote from: ActionDan on March 06, 2014, 01:57:09 AM

those are such gorgeous posts.

GORGEOUS MY POST

This will be my play. It will be better than Springtime for Hitler.

ActionDan · « **Reply #620 on:** March 06, 2014, 02:14:28 AM »

If I was scum with Serela I would have strongly recommended killing Raikaria and tried to mislynch one of you/DNA.

I don't particularly understand why you'd kill DNA? I mean I strongly suggested I was a VT yesterday so the only thing I can imagine is you setting up your claim to add a CC knowing that Serela wouldn't cc because she's on your scum team + remove DNA just in case.

I admit your idea is clever but... pretty terrible play? (unless it works which it might with Raikaria voting me and all)

ActionDan · « **Reply #621 on:** March 06, 2014, 02:18:13 AM »

Also you're kinda obvious scum for ever voting Zak with a clear on him. so what if there is a godfather, it means he wasn't the goon.

And the coincidence in DNA dying with you copping him is pretty lets say, great.

Let alone the setup if you are telling the truth is 1/128 chance of happening compared to 21/128 chance if you were lying

ActionDan · « **Reply #622 on:** March 06, 2014, 02:19:56 AM »

Quote from: ActionDan on March 06, 2014, 02:18:13 AM

Let alone the setup if you are telling the truth is 1/128 chance of happening compared to 21/128 chance if you were lying

you know, that is by far the strongest evidence in favor of your lynch in this entire game.

I find that fascinating

Raikaria · « **Reply #623 on:** March 06, 2014, 02:21:25 AM »

Forgive me, but when the strongest 'evidence' is statistical probability which proves nothing really, it's not a very good case. Just because something is less likly does not mean it is not the case.

Of course, it looks like both you and Serela are scum. I'm legitimately baffled why you two are slapfighting.

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #624 on:** March 06, 2014, 02:23:10 AM »

That's great, except that if I was scum claiming CC, I would have come out by saying "confirm guilty on player x" after listing the numerous times where I crumbed cop :3

Anyway, everything you are posting about who would do this and what is unfortunately all WIFOM.

ActionDan · « **Reply #625 on:** March 06, 2014, 02:23:13 AM »

it's a great case when disregarding what other evidence there may be in this thread for any other conclusions, it's 20 times more likely that Skypal is scum than not off probability.

Schezo · « **Reply #626 on:** March 06, 2014, 02:24:04 AM »

<VERY GOOD>

I'd like to thank the scumteam for voting when I said not to. Jesus Fucking Christ.

I'm Vanilla town
##Vote: Sky Paladin

Raikaria · « **Reply #627 on:** March 06, 2014, 02:24:40 AM »

Quote from: ActionDan on March 06, 2014, 02:23:13 AM

it's a great case when disregarding what other evidence there may be in this thread for any other conclusions, it's 20 times more likely that Skypal is scum than not off probability.

Which doesn't mean anything really. You have not proven he is scum.

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #628 on:** March 06, 2014, 02:25:08 AM »

SCHEZO FUCKING READ THE THREAD BEFORE ITS GAME OVER

ActionDan · « **Reply #629 on:** March 06, 2014, 02:25:13 AM »

fine you want to get rid of WIFOM:

you being a cop is incredibly unlikely as is you not having a single useful result after 3 nights apparently unobstructed