Omerta - Town of Mafia (Game over Scum wins)

[NekoNekoRex]

(unlike Schezo)

[NekoNekoRex]

##Vote: Schezo while i read

[NekoNekoRex]

K so Skypal is pretty awful. Mostly his cases are shit. Like, utterly. I made a post already on his first text wall (response here) so I won't reiterate that.

Post #98 is a pretty awful case on me, following that

Checks Bardiche's vote on Serela with 'youdbestbejoking.gif'.  Why?  Despite my earlier misgivings, Bardiche's vote was quite reasonable. 

Reads like backpedaling to attack me which is really bad.

"since he tends to step it up under 'pressure'" <-- Incorrect.  I go afk as this board's meta is to lynch active, contributing players.  You watched me do it successfully once as your scumbuddy and once as a serial killer

imo if we're talking meta, you first try to defend with a text wall then go quiet afterwards if it doesn't go well, but I'm not voting you for meta, I'm voting you for having bad posts.

"Anyway as far as the post content, it's half and half I guess."

I'll clarify I meant "half of it is pointless fluff".

Lastly he technically OMGUS voted CF7 here.

OMGUS accusations are always icing on the cake especially when the vote on me is a pure jokevote.


This is followed by him completely abandoning his intricately made case in favor of sheeping bard. good job.


#183: [massive retcon about previous posts]

The final point was that I don't place much merit on OMGUS for the same reason I don't actually put much weight in empty unvotes or poor logic.

The reason using OMGUS as an argument doesn't work is that 90% of OMGUS cases are bullshit and based on the fact "X player voted Y who is voting him" despite the fact that X player actually has a good countercase.

Finally #188 catches me off guard for not being a completely awful case. (which I'm not going to quotewall on account of it being fuckhuge long)  Actually that redeems him a decent bit.

He's scummy but his current case is gr8. I don't want to lynch him, but at the same time his ratio of badposts to good post is very alarming. Would keep for Day 2.

[NekoNekoRex]

Reading CF7 now. I ignore the first two pages of Mafia games after ED1 because they're always pants on head retarded.

Tbh, i don't like Schezo's posts. Pretty much zero actual content. RVS vote, another RVS vote, and jump-vote on Serela.
##Vote Schezo

CF7 is off to a good start here though.

[NekoNekoRex]

Okay I promise I am done ragging on Schezo, even if I don't like any of his content so far and don't see any actual casemaking from him.

[Shadoweh]

Sleeping with the fishies actually im really sleepy... count

Raikaria (1): PX
CF7 (5): Serela, Schezo, O4rfish, Zakeri, Mitsuki
Bardiche (1): Raikaria
O4rfish (1): CF7
Sky Paladin (1): Bardiche
Mitsuki (1): Sky Paladin
Cheez (1): InAction Dan
Schezo (1): Nekonekorex

Not voting: Cheez  >:C

CF7 is at L-2

With 13 mooks kicking, it takes 7 to lynch.
You got around 9 hours left.
Day 1 Timer

I only fell asleep once in the middle of this votecount. I'm sure it's fine.

[NekoNekoRex]

Not gonna lie, CF7 got terrible starting at like page 6. His Oarfish vote diverts hard from his Zak opinion to do an actual, real OMGUS case, and he basically falls apart at that point. His case doesn't even read in trying to explain how Oarfish is scummy, he just picks the case apart and votes him for bad scumhunting.

I'd lynch him in a heartbeat.

[NekoNekoRex]

The main problem with Raikaria is that his vote is still on Bardiche and Bardiche is town.
That's all I really have to do to sum up my opinion on him, really.

Raikaria also seems to disregard everything else going on in the game, so he should get on having an opinion on people other than Bard.

Would also lynch.

[NekoNekoRex]

I'm tapped out at the moment but i don't think Mitsuki or Zak are due to get lynched anyway so whatever

Oarfish is pretty town since I made the complaint about his lack of posts. Keep up the good work.

mite be here for deadline but that depends on how sleepy I am in the morning.

[NekoNekoRex]

CF7>Schezo>Raikaria>PX

The comment about PX I made earlier still stands, since he has yet to post anything good.
I wish Dan would get with the times but he seems like he's actually trying so not completely terrible.

[CF7]

Okay, okay. You've caught the scum. Pat yourself on the back.
But seriously. O4rfish case is so badly written, maybe it looks good from his side, but it's wrong for the reasons i've described. I'm trying to defend against it. Also vote him for it, because prior to that point he was doing literally nothing. Then he comes, writes that post. How come that's not scummy?

[PX]

Wtf is going on.

Like I seriously don't understand anything on CF7 right now. Wat.

Okay, after spending too much time, I finally got it. The case on CF7 is BULLSHIT.

In a later post of yours, you say that Sky was in RVS at the time. In fact, you call Zak scummy for condemning Sky's vote.
But if this is true, then Bard's vote on Serela wouldn't be bad at all!

This post is all wrong.

See Serela's vote and Zakeri's vote
They're quoting different parts of the same damn post. How can they be the exact same reason, if they're not even talking about the same part of the post? Clearly this wagon on CF7 is crap. And the one who has the most to gain from jumping this and spearheading it?
##Unvote
##Vote: Zakeri
Not to mention it gives a reason to jump onto a CF7 vote and try to cement his pose that CF7 was scummy despite giving absolutely no reasons at all before his vote.

However, O4rfish's case on CF7 is also pretty damn bad. Just by looking at the first part of CF7's post you can obviously tell he's confused, but you're spinning it around as if he's intentionally making his case obfuscated and confusing. Zakeri also never posted a reason on why CF7 is scummy, so CF7 obviously tried to find a reason for why he could be found scummy. Now why would you find your OWN OPINION to be hypocritical?! This is seriously nonsensical bullcrap.

Then he characterizes Zak as having reason to vote Bard but not actually voting Bard. I think you can disagree with someone's case without having cause to vote them. The reason I am making a different choice is that investigating CF7's case on Zak involves spending more time than the case took to make, by design, which seems extremely scummy.

Yes, you can think one way, but what stops others from thinking otherwise? Is anybody who doesn't think the same way you do scum? And that second part that you claim to make it seem scummy is just a giant wat
And the last part of the case, it's because that's the ONLY reason why Zakeri thought Sky Palladium was scum, basing it off an RVS post.

Also, these posts are terribly scummy, why are you trying to force a false ultimatum and disregarding someone trying to find an alternative route from the current one you threw in?

[PX]

Oh right, Raikaria is misguided town for now

[PX]

Mostly because of the more I tried to push it, the more I felt like I was forcing shit.

[PX]

Also, in substitute of trying to make more words, Sky Palladium's post on Mitsuki has a few hit and misses, but is overall about the same that I would post on Mitsuki, mostly the empty presence and general lackluster aura, on top of pitiful jump on Sky Palladium, and reallllllllly bad jump on CF7. So there's your potential scumteam, all spearheading the CF7 wagon.

[PX]

Also fuck deadline in 8 hours, I SAID GOOD NIGHT

[Sky_Paladin]

CF7

Okay, okay. You've caught the scum. Pat yourself on the back.

I don't know how to interpret this to mean anything other than 'CF7 is a caught scum'. 

CF7, you want to explain that is somehow a misunderstanding? 

[CF7]

CF7
I don't know how to interpret this to mean anything other than 'CF7 is a caught scum'. 
CF7, you want to explain that is somehow a misunderstanding?

Oh, right. I should have probably added /sarcasm after that. As if that's not obvious.

[Raikaria]

Uh wait a second.

PX votes Zakeri but the entire post is about the CF7 wagon right?

Then why is his linked post from Zakeri about Sky_Paladin?

And why is he mainly ranting at O4rfish in the rest of his post?

Zakeri and Serela don't even have the same reasons for voting Sky. Serela dislikes him saying that telling the town this is not a situation to counter-claim people in is a bad thing, while Zakeri doesn't seem to like Sky voting Serela for being 'dangerously competent'.

I think there is only part of the post where you randomly mention that Zakeri's Sky vote, which you linked.

Everything else is about O4rfish. Surely this means you should be voting for him/her, not the guy you briefly mentioned and seemed to have connected to the wrong case somehow?

I'm not sure if you ended up typing your wall on O4rfish between your reasoning for voting Zakeri or something, [Happens to me sometimes] but even then you rant so much about O4rfish and O4rfish's posts that it truely baffles me as to why you are voting Zakeri and not O4rfish.

##Unvote
##: Vote: PX

Could be that he just screwed up his previous post big time, but as it stands that incoherent unconnected case together with his complete lack of anything earlier is voteworthy in my books.

[Raikaria]

Also I still don't like CF7 [I mentioned this breifly at some point before], but as people have stated, and voted, he seems to be getting worse. Also don't likeSky_Paladin right now for pretty much the same reasons as before.

PX > CF7 > Sky_Paladin right now IMO,

[Raikaria]

Bard is after Sky but enough people have slapped me in the face and said 'No Bard is town' that I do not think he's getting lynched.

[Sky_Paladin]

Time is short, for those of you not on the CF7 wagon.  Remember, at phase end there'll be a lynch of the person with the most votes, there's no need to hammer. 

We have one vote on Zak, one on Oarfish, and one on Mitsuki. 

I can swap my vote for a couple hours yet, but I'll be gone at phase end because it's always at 3 am my time.  I will support a consolidation on to any of those three or if another brilliant case comes up that I can't ignore. 

[ActionDan]

I have a brilliant case.  It's on cheez.  It's brilliance lays in its simplicity.

[CF7]

Well, for what it's worth, i'm willing to vote for either O4rfish or Zak.

[Mitsuki]

19 minutes before I have to leave so I'll skip complaining about Paladin's case. I'll reply D2.
Still, if you need me to reply to some point today I'll do it, just quote it.
But I'll be back for the deadline! I'll steal a friend's computer to check the situation switch my vote if necessary. (Initially I was only going to meet my best friend but now we're going to someone else's house)

People should really stop focusing on lynches that are not going to happen and focus on the potential ones. Paladin, is CF7 so townie that you wouldn't lynch him? What about PX/Raikaria? Also disappointed at Dan, if you wanted to do stuff you should have done it before and now it's not the time to turbolynch anyone when there are way better candidates for a lynch. Now you should ISO lynch candidates. I'm not even sure who is a lynch candidate apart from CF7, is it PX, Paladin and Raikaria? It's hard to tell because CF7's like, the only player with more than one vote right now.

Still, I'd lynch CF7 or Paladin right now, I'd rather think more about PX and consider him D2 now that he's made a case, and Raikaria is a townread.

I haven't read properly what happened so I probably don't cover everything I should with this post but I'm not going to support any lynch on people who I think are town, and I have no actual thoughts on Cheez so I'd rather lynch even PX.

[Shadoweh]

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CF7 (5): Serela, Schezo, O4rfish, Zakeri, Mitsuki
O4rfish (1): CF7
Sky Paladin (1): Bardiche
Mitsuki (1): Sky Paladin
Cheez (1): Action Dan
Schezo (1): Nekonekorex
Zakeri (1): PX
PX (1): Raikaria

Not voting: Cheez  >:C

CF7 is at L-2

With 13 mooks kicking, it takes 7 to lynch.
You got 4 hours and 15 minutes left.
Day 1 Timer

[ActionDan]

I see 5 votes on cf7.  And 1 on everyone else.  I don't care what people have on whomever.  Hardly anyone has taken a look at cheez so if people don't want to lynch scum that's on them.  Atm vote wise anyone is a viable.  Take a chance do your dance and vote cheez.

[Raikaria]

I'd rather think more about PX and consider him D2 now that he's made a case

What do you think of this case where PX rants about O4rfish and then votes Zakeri for

[CF7]

People should really stop focusing on lynches that are not going to happen and focus on the potential ones.

My bullshit radar just went "DING!" at this part.

[ActionDan]

I'm not going to support a cf7 lynch