Author Topic: Hearthstone (Read 120505 times)

Bio · « **Reply #660 on:** August 17, 2015, 02:21:27 AM »

Warsong such a grear card that it needs to be nerfed twice for being the crux of OTKs. We also can't remove Grim Patron from the equations once they are such a good way to completely flip control and gain cards, but I can't quite predict what the strength of the deck will be if Warsong only applies to GP.

Quote from: Toyosatomimi No Sacchi on August 17, 2015, 01:19:21 AM

Basically it would be a coding nightmare and would probably have some serious side effects that none of us can really predict since "buffing a charged minion's damage" is a super common tactic.

You can't say something being a coming nightmare is a reason against implementing it. We don't have an idea how the game is implemented and just a check every action actually doesn't seem that bad. More importantly saying you can't implement something because it is too hard is quite a poor reason to give to the community. Warsong is pretty much unplayed elsewhere too.

Raikaria · « **Reply #661 on:** August 17, 2015, 10:52:00 AM »

Quote from: PX on August 17, 2015, 01:52:23 AM

Or give it the Tundra Rhino's effect where "Your minions with 3 or less attack have Charge."

That is literally what I am suggesting.

Iryan · « **Reply #662 on:** August 17, 2015, 02:47:33 PM »

Quote from: Toyosatomimi No Sacchi on August 17, 2015, 01:19:21 AM

That would require dynamic checks from warsong's part which would also affect any patrons that get inner raged/cruel taskmaster'd and would need a change of wording from "When you summon a minion" to "give a minion".

In case you haven't noticed, Tundra Rhino's effect already works like this. If, for some reason, a minion on your board would suddenly become a beast (for instance, you got the rhino from unstable portal and can then polymorph one of your minions into a sheep, which is a beast), it will gain charge even if it didn't have before. This would be in no way difficult to code or to word.

And that is not even going into other aoe buff cards like stormwind champion or reaid leader.

So yes, changing the commander effect to behave like the rhino effect seems like a reasonable nerf if patron continues to be the top dog of decks with TgT.

Mr. Sacchi · « **Reply #663 on:** August 17, 2015, 11:19:28 PM »

Oh, Tundra Rhino works like this?

I was not aware, never mind then.

Suikama · « **Reply #664 on:** August 17, 2015, 11:45:42 PM »

i just played the dumbest game in my entire life

patron vs patron

whole game is armor up

then he does him combo and leaves me with 2 hp

then i do my combo AND MY LAST ATTACK DOESNT GO OFF BECAUSE THE ANIMATIONS TOOK SO LONG SO HE LIVED WITH 1 HP :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha:

blizzard pls nerf animations

okay and then my next game actually gets drop hacked

i didnt even know that was possible in this game

what

the

fuck

Raikaria · « **Reply #665 on:** August 18, 2015, 08:35:10 AM »

TGT stuff has been datamined.

We're getting win 3 games with 1 class missions for 50 gold; and a 60 gold 'Win 5 Tavern Brawls' called Everyone! Get in Here!

Some of the flavor text is hilarious. Either references to other cards; or to the community; or to well... other things; such as:

Polymorph: Boar - It's always Huffer.
Confessor Paletress - She sees into your past and makes you face your fears. Most common fear: Getting Majordomo out of Sneed's Old Shredder.
Fist of Jaraxxus - * Not actually Jaraxxus' fist. [After all; the card art *is* Archimonde :V]
Druid of the Saber - That's saberTEETH, not like curved pirate blades. That's a different kind of druid. Druid of the Curved Pirate Blades. [I just found this one funny and a lot of people were saying it was a dumb name]
Brave Archer - This is a "bearly" concealed reference.
Lock and Load - Rexxar narrowed his eyes, grabbed his machine gun, and said: "It's go time. Lock and load." This card pays homage to that special moment.
Seal of Champions - "Arf! Arf! Arf!" - Seal of Champions
Enter the Coliseum - You have to get past the vendors first. So many are lost to shopping... [So apparently this card works by sending the weakings into a sea of SHOPPING!]
Frigid Snobold - Ironically, the natural enemy of the snobold is THE CANDLE.
Crowd Favorite - The crowd ALWAYS yells lethal. [Twitch Chat reference]
The Skeleton Knight - Apparently it really was just a flesh wound. [It's funny because he's the 2nd form of The Black Knight boss]

Also the voices have been datamined but I'm too lazy to watch the video; although apparently there is a special interaction between Fizzlebang and Jaraxxus.

[Y]oukai [J]esus · « **Reply #666 on:** August 18, 2015, 09:47:01 AM »

Wheres my +9 armor Ragnaros buff

and interaction between Sylvanas and Alleria

Bio · « **Reply #667 on:** August 20, 2015, 01:23:00 AM »

Hunter brawl deck inconsistent as fuck. Or for me consistently never winning any jousts versus Frost Giant Mage.

PX · « **Reply #668 on:** August 20, 2015, 01:25:43 AM »

Quote from: Bio on August 20, 2015, 01:23:00 AM

Hunter brawl deck inconsistent as fuck. Or for me consistently never winning any jousts versus Frost Giant Mage.

This is just like Ragnaros again, and just like Ragnaros, I won with the Hunter. I also won every joust :V

Raikaria · « **Reply #669 on:** August 20, 2015, 07:15:43 AM »

Quote from: PX on August 20, 2015, 01:25:43 AM

This is just like Ragnaros again, and just like Ragnaros, I won with the Hunter. I also won every joust :V

The decks are nowhere near as skewed as in Rag v Nef. I'd say globally Rag v Nef was like; 80-20 Nef bias at BEST. There were many, many scenarios where Nefarian could kill Rag before he could even respond, and even if that did not happen Wild Magic basically means he drew twice per turn and always had a chance to get a solution.

I've won with both decks, and lost with both only once. Weirdly enough; I've seen 2 mages instaconcede to me; but most people I've spoken with seem to think mage is the stronger deck.

But it is infinitely more balanced than Nef v Rag.

Suikama · « **Reply #670 on:** August 20, 2015, 10:42:42 PM »

the hunter deck has goddamn cobra shot in it

who at blizz thought that would be a good idea

qMyon · « **Reply #671 on:** August 23, 2015, 09:07:13 AM »

Was playing my midrange pally against an oil rogue, going down to the rogue fatiguing with 2 cards left and me on 5 health. Even though I had 2 minions on board, I had thought he still had an Eviscerate.

Nope, 2 Piloted Shredders. With the amount of health I had, the best I could do would be to trade away my 2 minions on board and hope for the best, even if he most likely would have lethal. I emote "Well Played" and pop the two shredders.

Lorewalker Cho and Ancient Watcher drop.

Instant rogue concede.

I think I just burned my RNG favor for the next couple of months.

Edit: and yep, no more luck. Facing nothing but Patron Warrior and Face/Mid Hunters, aside from a single control Priest where both my Mustards and my Chow were in the last 3 cards.

PX · « **Reply #672 on:** August 23, 2015, 10:15:38 PM »

Quote

Edit: and yep, no more luck. Facing nothing but Patron Warrior and Face/Mid Hunters, aside from a single control Priest where both my Mustards and my Chow were in the last 3 cards.

Welcome to ranks 18-Legend

Suikama · « **Reply #673 on:** August 23, 2015, 11:05:03 PM »

Rank 5 get

gimme dat golden epic

Raikaria · « **Reply #674 on:** August 24, 2015, 05:00:43 PM »

I am going to be able to get 67 packs on release.

To make the opening a little more... statistical, and since I need something to do while waiting, I'm gonna make a Google Doc to keep track of every card I pull.

And I'll post it here, along with what I dusted + dust I already had + what I crafted to show you all my TGT SWAG.

EDIT: NEVERMIND IT'S OUT NO TIME TO DO THAT.

PX · « **Reply #675 on:** August 24, 2015, 05:45:25 PM »

FIrst pack, this is already going to be awful

Raikaria · « **Reply #676 on:** August 24, 2015, 06:11:58 PM »

MY 4TH PACK.

1st ever golden legend.

EDIT: I GOT VARIAN TOO.

edit2: AND JUSTICAR MY MOST WANTED LEGEND

Edit 3: Crafted a bunch of epics, a couple of rares and Paletress. DE'ed a Bolf and a bunch of other stuff includeing every Warlock Card I had. Made a Malygos Shaman which apparently I am not allowed to use and cannot even open in the collection. I then made a Priest; ran over someone in a ranked game because Holy Champion IS AS ABSURD AS I THOUGHT IT WAS and then crashed.

Also Paletress gave me a Hemet.

Suikama · « **Reply #677 on:** August 24, 2015, 10:51:35 PM »

OH BOY A LEGENDAR-acidmaw fucking hell

PX · « **Reply #678 on:** August 24, 2015, 11:16:35 PM »

So I just played a game where my opponent managed to get ALL 3s on Lightning Storm. Best way to lose a game

Suikama · « **Reply #679 on:** August 24, 2015, 11:35:39 PM »

of course i get Aviana on my joke alt account which also has GOLDEN DR BOOM

Suikama · « **Reply #680 on:** August 25, 2015, 03:16:10 AM »

today I got to play constructed Mage in arena

Kiro · « **Reply #681 on:** August 25, 2015, 06:42:35 AM »

Opened 25 packs. Got Varian Wrynn on my 21st. 6 epics (2 golden) as well. Overall acceptable.

Also, the Innkeeper sends you a message at a 12 win arena now. He says "Ooh! You have claimed the top arena prize, the Lightforge Key!" (Screenshot failed MotK security check or whatever).

Argent Horserider is pretty good. A mini-Argent Commander is not to be trifled with. Saboteur is also a really freakin' solid 3 drop. That hero power penalty can screw over the opponent really bad, especially those that want to ping. That was probably the most surprising card to me. And Powershot is amaze balls. Still draft early game tempo if possible, it should still do pretty well.

Raikaria · « **Reply #682 on:** August 25, 2015, 05:04:32 PM »

How have I reached Rank 15 playing a gimmicky SUMMONS ALL THE DOODZ deck?

And why are 90% of the guys I am playing against still drooling face hunters.

Iryan · « **Reply #683 on:** August 25, 2015, 06:49:27 PM »

Bought 16 packs for a start (leaving enough gold to buy one of the 2 adventure wings I don't have yet, which I may want to do at some point).
16 packs, 6 silent knights. And only 2 epics so far... both of which are the awful new rogue dagger. However, I also get the Skeleton Knight, which is my 3rd legendary among 130 packs. So... yay? :V

Raikaria · « **Reply #684 on:** August 27, 2015, 02:37:04 PM »

How does my RNG Mage beat a full-fledged Patron Warrior?

Why am I gaining ranks playing my RNG Mage? As in; on a streak levels of gaining ranks.

Why am I even playing Ranked?

But seriously; one of the first things I did with TGT was revamp my RNG Mage. Every card in the deck either is RNG or makes more RNG happen. This deck is wild fun and barring the three legends at the end which you can swap out for other stuff anyway [x2 Mirror Entity since copying enemy cards is out of your control; and an extra Madder Bomber]; very cheap to make.

It's like Tempo Mage and Mech Mage had a baby and then that baby was raised by Randuin. I'm not sure if I win by skill; luck; or just sheer CONFUSION FU.

And yes I am playing Demolisher in Constructed. With the amount of 'BLOW UP STUFF' removal I have and the fact it's a Mech thus enabling Blastmage it's actually pretty scary.

Also while the deck itself has no card-draw; it MAKES cards. Nefarian; Spellslinger; Portals; Spare Parts...

And no I do not have Rhonin or Archmage Antonidas. And the latter dosen't even fit the random. [The former you could argue Arcane Missiles is RNG thus he's legit]. I mean if I was playing SERIOUSLY and I had those cards I'd probobly run them over Madder Bomber and Nefarian, but I'm not.

Did I mention Spellslinger is hilarious? Also a 3/4 body ain't bad. It's made the deck a lot stronger. [Him and Effigy.]

Iryan · « **Reply #685 on:** August 27, 2015, 05:59:47 PM »

Nice.

I have only gotten 20 tgt packs so far and have as of yet been reluctant in crafting anything, but I have been able to make something nice with the cards I got, which I had been meaning to make for a while; a feral druid. There are a bunch of cards I would try out or replace, if I had them, but the way it is right now it seems to be doing pretty well. Then again, I am far from high-ranked, and people are playing lots of more experimental stuff atm, rather than patron and face hunter all the time. Which is nice.

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Feral Combatant is basically a fire elemental, except you can play it on turn 4 in some situations. Living Roots is just all around nice. Knight of the Wild and Druid of the Fang bring some pretty sweet tempo swings. Druid of the Saber is also great. 3/2 stealth for 2 is solid, especially if the stealth helps triggering a Fang; the 2/1 charge can also be great as removal or as a finisher in the right situation, in particular when compined with savage roar or power of the wild.

Mr. Sacchi · « **Reply #686 on:** August 29, 2015, 03:22:04 AM »

Don't you love it when someone decides to BM you and you wreck them in return?

I Went into the Tavern Brawl today when I was bored as a Warrior and got matched up against a Warlock, I got a stupidly slow curve (Absolutely no minions on my hand besides Sylvanas and Lord of the Arena.) So of course he flooded the board on turn 5, I responded by putting up my Lord of the Arena... which he responded by saying "Well Played", sacrificing his Voidcaller into it and getting Mal'Ganis out, then putting me at 11 life.

I immediately wiped his board by using Revenge, Mortal Strike and Whirlwind., later on he answered one of my drops by attacking it with one of his minions, saying "Thank You" and then popping bane of doom... Which gave him Wrathguard, how cute, just so happens I have a motherfucking Gorehowl in my hand.

By the end of the game I was at 9 life and he had a Frost Giant up, I had a flooded board and had lethal, when his turn came about he started spamming "Sorry" emotes and hovering something over my head... I called out his bluff with a "Thank You" emote and he surrendered seconds later :V

PX · « **Reply #687 on:** August 29, 2015, 04:46:06 AM »

I had a hunter bring me to 2 hp in tavern brawl earlier, he Well Played me, I responded with Tree of Life. He surrendered a few turns later :V
Bastard even had justicar!

Raikaria · « **Reply #688 on:** August 30, 2015, 07:23:08 PM »

Varien Wrynn: Battlecry: Smack your opponent with your wallet

PX · « **Reply #689 on:** August 30, 2015, 07:36:57 PM »

Wallet Warrior is the best deck because fuck aggro :V