Author Topic: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Night 3 (Student Council Thread)  (Read 51091 times)

Serela

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #690 on: December 13, 2013, 01:34:08 AM »
My ability to protect people at night is activated when I land the hammering vote on someone in the day phase preceding it. This is definitely always and exactly how it works and I haven't left out anything! PX is mean because he didn't let me hammer him, which definitely was also still the case yesterday, because I can doctor people if I hammer someone that day, with no other strings attached to this wonderful and easy to use power that totally cannot be misused in any manner because hammering people is easy, often even if you don't claim you have to do so.

Yes. I am powered up by hammering people. Definitely.

And there is no downside to claiming so! Because that's totally my power. Yes. It is so true. I am not even kidding. If I'm lying may I drop dead by the end of the night phase despite no one trying to kill me. Cross my heart and swear to be town!

 :3
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ActionDan

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #691 on: December 13, 2013, 01:34:36 AM »
it's certainly worth it if it's either a suicidal vig shot each night or else he loses his vote.

inclinced to agree that it's a scum claim

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #692 on: December 13, 2013, 01:35:44 AM »
if it was either of those we'd be in a LYLO variant

ActionDan

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #693 on: December 13, 2013, 01:36:49 AM »
I can't for the life of me what else would be so bad. so.

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BigBangMeteor

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #694 on: December 13, 2013, 01:43:04 AM »
Serela are you fucking kidding me.

BBM's claim is a scum claim. No, Kilga isn't putting in a buffed 1-shot cop when we already have the slowcop, and even if he did there's no valid reason for BBM to hold his shot back this many phases. It screams "I'm scum, please leave me alive one more night so I can use my role". Serious, you've done this exact same thing as scum not once but twice.

I have never done this before as scum. Sometimes as scum I've escaped a lynch due to the claim, but I've never specifically asked not to be lynched before due to my roleclaim except MAYBE Mystery, which was a completely different case because I was SK and actually had the ability to back up my claimed vigshot. Asking for an extra night phase as mafia without the ability to kill anyone (what you're suggesting) is just delaying my lynch by a phase at best.

My role is not a buffed one-shot Cop because the drawback of it outweighs one clear. You can say "hey if you never say that you have a drawback in the first place it would be fine" except then I myself am not clear in any way by just randomly stating that I have a clear. Then sooner or later I'd have to reveal the drawback, on account of its nature, and then we'd lose if I ever made it to *YLO so yeah. I decided to save it for a point when I could be more sure of hitting scum.

I re-read BT btw. idk I see Conq's point about his D3 but I don't think that you can just discount his first two days on account of one bad day because he's a skilled player. He's still not a perfect player and one bad day phase doesn't automatically discount other things. Dunno who's scum at this point. By PoE I'm getting somewhere like SB/Prims + one of Shadoweh/Polaris.

Serela

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #695 on: December 13, 2013, 01:43:35 AM »
It sounds like you're going to have A WHOLE BUNCH OF FUN LYNCHING BBM TOMORROW! Wow! It's super cool that we know we're going to have an awesome scum lynch d4. I'll be dead, so, I'm going to get someone else lynched first while I still can, it's going to be pretty great.

By the way, you know why I couldn't doc anyone night 1? It's because I totally forgot to HAMMER SKYPALADIN. It would have been so easy! Man, I'm such a Serela, it just totally skipped my mind. It's not like I couldn't possibly have protected anyone n1 regardless of what happened, that'd just be kinda depressing, I mean really. But yeah, it's simply that I forgot.

Definitely.

Killing people by daylight, saving lives by moonlight, never running from a slapfight, she is the one named... waitwhatwasitohyes MIT-SU-RU~
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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #696 on: December 13, 2013, 01:44:43 AM »
I was saying that Serela has done this before.

BBM, that still makes no sense. As town you'd want to shoot EARLY, claim it, then get NKed so that town wouldn't have to worry about your drawback.

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #697 on: December 13, 2013, 01:50:29 AM »
Should I attempt to verify Polly/Dan's role names tonight or target SB/BT/Shadoweh and hope I don't hit a scum goon?

ActionDan

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #698 on: December 13, 2013, 01:53:22 AM »
oh I figured out what the drawback was.

ummmm maybe I wouldn't use it till I was sure. maybe I can see it

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #699 on: December 13, 2013, 01:54:09 AM »
I misunderstood what huh what said too and thought he was saying BBM had done this as scum before too. I can see the point of view that makes it seem like a scum claim though. I thought it would be a town claim at first.

i don't think verifying my role name will prove anything `_`

Serela

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #700 on: December 13, 2013, 01:56:39 AM »
Prims:Don't think Dan is town, not sure how good verifying polly would be but it wouldn't hurt, trying to get someone else wouldn't hurt and at this point we should just massclaim yeah because enough strong PRs have claimed for scum to go after, we no longer have enough to lose and scum getting locked into claims would be cool
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Serela

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #701 on: December 13, 2013, 01:57:12 AM »
I don't know how trying to say I'm pretty sure Dan is town became "I don't think Dan is town"
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Conqueror

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #702 on: December 13, 2013, 01:57:55 AM »
Game is hard and you all suck.

BBM, do you have a history of trying to play the hero? Asking people to wait for an extra shot when there's no guarantee there would be an extra shot, waiting to use what is basically a modified one-shot cop until later in endgame where it's likely that 1) the drawback will come into effect or 2) you'll be too dead to use the power...

There are just so many holes in this. Not to mention that a one-shot vig/cop with the drawback that if you hit town you could cause town to lose...add to that the possibility that the cop checks the nightkill...I don't think Kilga would put this role in his game? Need to think about it some more because the piecemeal way this claim came out is really really sketch.


On tue un homme, on est un assassin. On tue des millions d'hommes, on est un conqu?rant. On les tue tous, on est un dieu.
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ActionDan

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #703 on: December 13, 2013, 01:59:34 AM »
I think we need to see more claims.

I notice people avoiding that

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #704 on: December 13, 2013, 02:00:34 AM »
I can claim Conq's role name for him if that helps!

Conqueror

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #705 on: December 13, 2013, 02:00:50 AM »
I think we should massclaim yeah, half the game is claimed practically and I think all the important PRs are out.


On tue un homme, on est un assassin. On tue des millions d'hommes, on est un conqu?rant. On les tue tous, on est un dieu.
Every saint has a past and every sinner a future.

Conqueror

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #706 on: December 13, 2013, 02:01:08 AM »
Um, sure? What's my role name? :V


On tue un homme, on est un assassin. On tue des millions d'hommes, on est un conqu?rant. On les tue tous, on est un dieu.
Every saint has a past and every sinner a future.

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #707 on: December 13, 2013, 02:02:02 AM »
Caffienator

Serela

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #708 on: December 13, 2013, 02:02:47 AM »
So great to see people agreeing that TOMORROW YOU'LL HAPPILY LYNCH BBM, guys! :D I wish you luck for after I'm COLD AND DEAD and FORSAKEN.
I think we need to see more claims
^

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Conqueror

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #709 on: December 13, 2013, 02:03:33 AM »
Yes.

Also, Serela are you okay?


On tue un homme, on est un assassin. On tue des millions d'hommes, on est un conqu?rant. On les tue tous, on est un dieu.
Every saint has a past and every sinner a future.

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #710 on: December 13, 2013, 02:04:52 AM »
Massclaim makes my role actually useful so I'm OK with it.

I'm a Combo Number 9, I target somebody each night and learn their role name then become immune to it. bofh was my N1 target and I tried to target SB N2.

Serela

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #711 on: December 13, 2013, 02:06:19 AM »
Also, Serela are you okay?
I bought two thin-crust chicken recipe pizzas and then after I got home realized in small words beneath it says they have bacon, and then after I took it out of the oven I realized it's FAKE PIZZA with NO SAUCE. I had to dip it in honey mustard dressing to obtain the necessary tang needed to make it not bland and meh.

...I'll survive, though! At least, you know, UNTIL I DROP DEAD TONIGHT, but, technicalities!
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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #712 on: December 13, 2013, 02:07:27 AM »
uhh would that role immunity apply to killing roles

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #713 on: December 13, 2013, 02:08:31 AM »
I wouldn't become immune to the scum NK if I targeted scum.

Serela

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #714 on: December 13, 2013, 02:08:42 AM »
in small words beneath it says they have bacon
in hindsight I realized I should clarify that I don't like eating pork in general and normally would completely avoid it, and on the rare occasions I have to eat it or get rid of otherwise good food I've learned I dislike the way it tastes

Anyway, so what's SB's role name? Oh, right. Blocked. Nevermind. Also I doubt Prims becomes immune to the scum NK but immunity to poisoner or something would make sense, I'm not Prims though. Cut by yep.
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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #715 on: December 13, 2013, 02:11:36 AM »
well yeah the scum nk isn't part of their role

but, like, assuming there's a vig and you could become immune to the vig, then that would really suck for the vig

and i'd hate to question kilga's set-up balancing abilities so perhaps the problem lies somewhere else?????

(check out how subtle i'm being)

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #716 on: December 13, 2013, 02:11:52 AM »
Serela who do you think are the scum now? I'm not sure if you've posted a coherent thought this entire phase

Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #717 on: December 13, 2013, 02:12:46 AM »
I could become immune to poisoner / vig, yeah.

Serela

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #718 on: December 13, 2013, 02:19:13 AM »
Serela who do you think are the scum now? I'm not sure if you've posted a coherent thought this entire phase
I've been progressively thinking more that I should reread BT, and I've become much more open to the thought that Shadoweh might actually be town, recently (although I still wouldn't exactly mind a shadoweh lynch today, buuut...). SB is null so he's definitely a possibility and you guys can deal with BBM shenanigans tomorrow. I'd still lynch Polly. Everyone else is Totes Town.
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Serela

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Re: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #719 on: December 13, 2013, 02:19:46 AM »
I'd probably support a SB lynch based on cruel PoE that he cannot do anything about because we're all jerks.
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