Author Topic: Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Night 3 (Student Council Thread) (Read 51084 times)

BigBangMeteor · « **Reply #660 on:** December 12, 2013, 09:13:17 PM »

trust me when I say there's a reason it's not potential MYLO. You'll probably be like "hey we have no reason for trusting you" but if I said why it's not potential MYLO then we'd almost certainly lose tonight following a mislynch unless the mafia is retarded.

so Rou is saying that two extra mafia kills would be balanced, and Conq is saying that one mafia kill + one town kill would be imbalanced

Conqueror · « **Reply #661 on:** December 12, 2013, 09:15:52 PM »

Rou is saying that one extra mafia kill would be balanced, and I'm saying it's weird for Kilga to put multiple extra kills in one game because Kilga isn't PX.

Rou: Yeah bofh did that to you d2. Can't use it on you again though.

BigBangMeteor · « **Reply #662 on:** December 12, 2013, 09:17:09 PM »

We already know there's one extra mafia kill- Serela. I said that TWO extra mafia kills would be imbalanced and Rou disputed that. My point was- if three people flip tomorrow (Serela, mafia NK, and my kill) then you'll know it's either 1 or 3, except 3 is dumb.

Conqueror · « **Reply #663 on:** December 12, 2013, 09:21:45 PM »

I'll look further at this balance argument later but your argument is that we should leave you alive until tomorrow because we'll totally see your extra kill?

BigBangMeteor · « **Reply #664 on:** December 12, 2013, 09:30:44 PM »

basically

also as for "too many kills" I've been in a 14p game with a SK, a town non-consecutive night vig, and a mafia dayvig so yeah. Admittedly that was role madness and whatnot, but still, I don't think that one mafia kill and one town kill is too much.

FinnKaenbyou · « **Reply #665 on:** December 12, 2013, 09:32:58 PM »

Quote from: BigBangMeteor on December 12, 2013, 09:13:17 PM

trust me when I say there's a reason it's not potential MYLO. You'll probably be like "hey we have no reason for trusting you" but if I said why it's not potential MYLO then we'd almost certainly lose tonight following a mislynch unless the mafia is retarded.

OK so I have absolutely no idea what this means. Unless you're claiming something like 'if I explain why it's not potential MYLO, then PEOPLE WILL DIE'. Is that what you're claiming?

ActionDan · « **Reply #666 on:** December 12, 2013, 09:35:39 PM »

Quote from: BigBangMeteor on December 12, 2013, 09:13:17 PM

trust me when I say there's a reason it's not potential MYLO. You'll probably be like "hey we have no reason for trusting you" but if I said why it's not potential MYLO then we'd almost certainly lose tonight following a mislynch unless the mafia is retarded.

uhh...

to me, and assuming you are town, MYLO means "this guy can shoot tonight" vs "this guy can't shoot tonight". This is not factoring in wonky mechanics akin to something like "but Raikaria can resurrect! and add a vote to the town pool so majority! even though that's a one day only occurrence and he'd die anyway while parity between scum/town in the truly alive people remain" I suppose that it's POSSIBLE that it may not be mylo because you could shoot wrong, lynch scum in a pool of 6 (3/3) with 7 votes and then shoot scum the next night and possibly get a 1/2 scenario.

BigBangMeteor · « **Reply #667 on:** December 12, 2013, 09:49:23 PM »

sigh

If I shoot town they don't die, but something else will happen to me that will allow the mafia to win anyways in LYLO if they know what it is.

And yes I know that this goes against the "see if someone extra flips tomorrow" because then nobody would flip if I shot town. But it was the only thing I could think of that would stop my lynch, and I don't want to get lynched before at least using my role. Basically I was just really hoping I'd shoot scum because then it wouldn't come up, and thought I had a fairly good chance at it, since if there's a mislynch, there'll only be like 4 people whom I don't have a townread on, so it'd be a 75% shot. And if there was a correct lynch, then that would most likely contribute some extra associative townreads and give me a similar chance at hitting scum.

ActionDan · « **Reply #668 on:** December 12, 2013, 10:25:37 PM »

and the conditions for shooting?

ActionDan · « **Reply #669 on:** December 12, 2013, 10:39:52 PM »

in other news I am so very very close to victory somewhere else! ...

Shadoweh · « **Reply #670 on:** December 12, 2013, 10:57:01 PM »

omg talking about ongoing games, forcereplaced and banned
I was hit by a car on the way to work \o/ Give me a minute to read what's goin on

ActionDan · « **Reply #671 on:** December 12, 2013, 11:03:19 PM »

Quote from: Shadoweh on December 12, 2013, 10:57:01 PM

omg talking about ongoing games, forcereplaced and banned
I was hit by a car on the way to work \o/ Give me a minute to read what's goin on

I am prepared for brain-damaged musings. Add some alcohol to increase the effect

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #672 on:** December 12, 2013, 11:10:08 PM »

uhhh hi I haven't really caught up but BBM's claim is bad since he basically admitted it was just "leave me alive another day" when we know there's some sort of scum RB. Need him to claim conditions.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #673 on:** December 12, 2013, 11:10:54 PM »

Quote from: BigBangMeteor on December 12, 2013, 09:49:23 PM

sigh
If I shoot town they don't die, but something else will happen to me that will allow the mafia to win anyways in LYLO if they know what it is.
And yes I know that this goes against the "see if someone extra flips tomorrow" because then nobody would flip if I shot town. But it was the only thing I could think of that would stop my lynch, and I don't want to get lynched before at least using my role. Basically I was just really hoping I'd shoot scum because then it wouldn't come up, and thought I had a fairly good chance at it, since if there's a mislynch, there'll only be like 4 people whom I don't have a townread on, so it'd be a 75% shot. And if there was a correct lynch, then that would most likely contribute some extra associative townreads and give me a similar chance at hitting scum.

:/ You're basically claiming a weak vig. If you didn't die from shooting you would be another weakened cop. Why didn't you shoot Night 1 if this is the case?

Shadoweh · « **Reply #674 on:** December 12, 2013, 11:12:03 PM »

Also if we do decide to leave BBM alive, Polaris should obviously check for ##Vig.

BigBangMeteor · « **Reply #675 on:** December 12, 2013, 11:12:42 PM »

Quote from: ActionDan on December 12, 2013, 10:25:37 PM

and the conditions for shooting?

I can shoot any night I want, but only once. I considered using it as a pseudo-cop since it gives me a clear if I shoot town, but I decided it wasn't worth it.

BTW if Polaris wants to check my action tonight, it's ##Stab.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #676 on:** December 12, 2013, 11:38:08 PM »

Why wasn't it worth it each night?

Serela · « **Reply #677 on:** December 13, 2013, 12:28:03 AM »

p.sure I know what happens if he fails but w/e

Don't really want to lynch BBM. Two extra scum nks sounds BS and if you think he's scum so bad we'll lynch him tomorrow after we possibly get a cool extra kill because that would be SO COOL. It's questionable why he didn't shoot n2 (not shooting n1 with a one-shot vig is not weird) but whatever.

ALSO JUST A REMINDER THAT YOU BETTER LET ME HAMMER WHENEVER WE DECIDE WHO TO LYNCH.

Actually ahahahaha I'm going to hold the lynch hostage. I'm a jerk, deal with it. I'm not going to hammer BBM and if you lynch him anyway I will be unable to doc, making it so much easier for the possible scum roleblocker to ruin town's day. If you think BBM is scum so bad then lynch him tomorrow.

Quote from: Polaris

only serela can be this scummy even after being confirmed town

Debating how much I -really- do or do not want Shadoweh lynched. It'd be cool if we lynched Polaris but I'm not seriously believing that's going to happen, and no, I'm not so much of a jerk that I'll try to force people to lynch Polly for me. If I demand too much I'm afraid you'll just hammer BBM without me anyway >_>

I just got back from work and I'm tired. I'll be able to think better later.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #678 on:** December 13, 2013, 12:34:15 AM »

Awh Serela, that is the best post you've ever made. Speak with authority! I do not think we should lynch either Shadoweh or Polly in the case of not lynching BBM. I'm.. up for giving him a chance to shoot tonight, I think. If he's scum we don't really have to worry about terrible circumstances. I think however if we do this we should lynch one of BT/SB and he should shoot the other, or Prims.

Do not shoot Dan. Do not aim for the monkey. Also lol Dan is a monkey.

SB · « **Reply #679 on:** December 13, 2013, 12:57:36 AM »

How long is it till phase end? Super tired atm so I don't feel like making posting much other than a vote switch if we need one. BBM can stab me tonight or whatever if he wants to.

Serela · « **Reply #680 on:** December 13, 2013, 01:04:18 AM »

There's about 23 hours left

Polaris · « **Reply #681 on:** December 13, 2013, 01:10:40 AM »

Serela is this your first time taking a hostage, because you're really bad at it. If you're going to take a hostage you need to make some demands!

BBM claim is fdoaspuiasdhyngfuidsjo dksaofi;auf;dkfvgadio niosdfpaegumjbckibmjigfou iodfspafudosa (frustrating to the point of mashing my keyboard) but if it's legit then it's legit... <_> I'll do my best to investigate with what I have on my end. Have to think more about who I want lynched, though.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #682 on:** December 13, 2013, 01:22:20 AM »

Serela are you fucking kidding me.

BBM's claim is a scum claim. No, Kilga isn't putting in a buffed 1-shot cop when we already have the slowcop, and even if he did there's no valid reason for BBM to hold his shot back this many phases. It screams "I'm scum, please leave me alive one more night so I can use my role". Serious, you've done this exact same thing as scum not once but twice.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #683 on:** December 13, 2013, 01:22:35 AM »

##Vote: BBM

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #684 on:** December 13, 2013, 01:24:12 AM »

Also Serela, isn't this largely irrelevant since you just lost your ability by claiming how it's activated lmao

Polaris · « **Reply #685 on:** December 13, 2013, 01:24:32 AM »

Quote from: SB on December 12, 2013, 07:57:15 PM

Hi isn't this a complete contradiction, my vote was actually the first Shadoweh vote. Also, what happened to the start of the day where you were townreading me? I don't think you ever did anything that says why I'm suddenly scum apart from in the post I quoted, and randomly included in some scumteams that he came out with for no real reason. Not really happy with this, I need to reread Poly at some point, possibly in general.

well fine, you were the "first" Shadoweh vote but huh what's vote seemed very unbandwagony if anything. I just ended up dismissing the Shadoweh wagon as bad in the end because it reeked of hilarious bandwagoning (especially BT's, or perhaps only BT's) so hmm. (I think this addresses BBM's question too but I don't remember it clearly)

I scrapped my townread on you after bofh was cleared and the various events since then and this post

it's almost like SB hasn't been reading the game, if he's unhappy with me now rather than earlier, when it was p.much polaris hate power hour

CUT BY HUH WHAT WITH IMPORTANT INFORMATION THAT I NEED TIME TO COMPREHEND BEFORE ADDRESSING

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #686 on:** December 13, 2013, 01:24:40 AM »

actually I probably shouldn't have mentioned that in thread. Well fuck.

Polaris · « **Reply #687 on:** December 13, 2013, 01:26:19 AM »

oh no don't tell me you're actually sharing a scum qt with "confirmed town" serela who is actually scum and trolling us all

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #688 on:** December 13, 2013, 01:27:04 AM »

"

" - dormio

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #689 on:** December 13, 2013, 01:31:49 AM »

if we don't lynch BBM then I'd go for SB I guess. I'm waffling on Shadoweh after the debate with Conq yesterday. Don't really have any strong opinions on this game in general but BBM's claim is policy lynchable imo. The way he outed the details sounds like forgot about the lack of LYLO while claiming and had to cover it up.