Revolutionary Girl Utena Mafia - Night 3 (Student Council Thread)

[Polaris]

^ (Shadoweh's post) this is p. much how i feel

Already less than 24 hours in the day. I probably won't be around for deadline, so if anyone wants a claim now then I'll do it. (after I have some dinner)

cut by huh what switching wagons, maybe I don't really need to claim anymore?

[Serela]

Is your read on us due to the fact that we're lurking (well, CF7 did in my case) or something else? Plus tbh I think I've posted a decent amount today for you to get a read on my by now so the fact you keep coming back to this is kind of annoying me because I feel like my posts are just kind of being ignored. I dunno if this is actually scummy though.

It was because your slot basically didn't exist until d2 started- you were in the worst only because you were unreadable and everyone else was some degree of townread. As I said, your posts have been looking good so far, so that was supposed to imply that I'm probably not going to want to lynch you anytime soon! I see how that could be kind of unclear, though.

The first time or two I said it I had forgotten you'd actually posted d2, if that helps, by the way >_>;; Anyway, your posts haven't shown anything towntell-tier for me so far (those are like, my specialties in terms of trying to read people, and the main thing I pay attention to after the game/flips when trying to tell if I did good or bad and trying to improve my play), but they're good 'nuff feel anything scummy etc

Anyway, is bofh really going to not post after what he said?
:I

Polly you're probably gonna be a high lynch priority tomorrow if you're not lynched today, just claim. You're still going to be PX's counterwagon as people consolidate anyway, if you're not going to be around later then do it now. Rai-wagon is evaporating (thank goodness) and those votes on bofh better not go anywhere (if he keeps dodging doing anything though I'll happily apply a lynch to his face tomorrow though.

[Serela]

and those votes on bofh better not go anywhere

This is misleading, I meant "they better not turn into an actual wagon on bofh". But I worded it really badly.

[BigBangMeteor]

Also 15 posts of Shadoweh is lurking doesn't help either of us you know. What do you want to hear from me?

suspicions, maybe? All you have right now is a one-line vote that's addressed as a question to somebody who's never going to answer it.

Prims's votehop feels more like a prod to get PX more incentivized to post. I don't think it shows a decrease in suspicion about you. I don't think there's really a point to it either because I don't think that PX cares enough about the game even to worry about being a leading wagon.

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

I don't want PX lurking out the day because he's not the leading wagon and can get away with it.

I'll also keep the vote down if his first post back is scummy.

[Polaris]

I'm Utena Tenjou, Woman of Action, and I can check how many people used a certain night action each night but not who used the action. (I think this implies that anyone with an active role has a specific ##Command). According to Kilga there is some leniency with the result. I wasn't really sure what would be the best way to use the role, but I figured I could try looking for roles that scum could have, so on Night 1 I checked ##Roleblock, with the result being that nobody used ##Roleblock on Night 1. (I actually remembered later that Dormio was part-roleblocker and that there probably wouldn't be another one, so I messed up my PMs and accidentally sent the second one to myself instead. Otherwise I would've checked for ##Rolecop.)

[Polaris]

Oh yeah and if I survive tonight I want to check for any sort of ##Announce action since that will probably clear up that bit at least.

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

Polly must be town I don't want to lynch Utena

Seriously though I don't think that's a scum claim. Maybe scum with a gimmicky informative role at worst but I'd really expect them to have something more basic and useful, like rolecop.

[Polaris]

(I actually remembered later that Dormio was part-roleblocker and that there probably wouldn't be another one, so I messed up my PMs and accidentally sent the second one to myself instead. Otherwise I would've checked for ##Rolecop.)

I meant to say "so I wanted to change my action, but I messed up my PMs etc." I didn't intentionally mess up my PMs q_q

[Serela]

A check for announcer or whatever would be nice I guess, yeah. I don't think Polly being scum is off-limits but I'm fine with lynching PX anyway.

[ActionDan]

Oh yeah and if I survive tonight I want to check for any sort of ##Announce action since that will probably clear up that bit at least.

plz do not be dumb.

[ActionDan]

even checking for a cop would be better.  although that's also dumb.

try:

redirector/godfather/ninja/strongman/busdriver. etc.

[Serela]

Polly wouldn't even be able to check for half of those roles because it checks for commands used at night. Regardless of what check would be a good or bad idea.

[ActionDan]

oh good point.

[Polaris]

##Unvote
##Vote PX (L-2)

Figured that if I don't make it before deadline then I'm better off switching it now.

I was already in bed before I remembered to care about mafia so I hope y'all are happy >:(

[PX]

pomf

[PX]

Yay. After traveling between two cities separated by 300 miles of desert, mountain, and traffic, twice, watching a chinese cartoon movie, twice (YOU STOOD ME UP YADOGARI D:), nearly freezing to death because I forgot how fucking cold my parent's house is, eating dinner with my parents for the first time in a while, I'm back to suffering by playing mafia. Thanks.

##Vote Raikaria

Guy's scum.

First off, he goes overly defensive over everything! Even when he claims that he saw my vote on him as RVS, HE STILL RESPONDED TO IT IN A WAY THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH DEFENSIVE DON'T VOTE ME. Not to mention his first reaction to a vote on him is to immediately call that person scum. Except apparently BT and Rou, but who cares for now. I mean look at this, his fucking reaction to BT's case is literally just 'cool' even though he's using some of my reasonings that he "took apart" earlier. Not to mention most of his cases basically devolve to "this is bad, and he's scum. that's why." He's missing the critical how, and just attacks everything at him to discredit anything that looks at him. Everything used against him he just claims as "misrep" so much that at this point I think he's just abusing this as a buzzword to make everything look bad. I mean, he basically said that he's not moving his vote off Sky Pallidium unless there's no chance he's not getting lynched, and let's be honest people. We all know that basically meant he wasn't moving his vote because people were not gonna just disassemble off him with that little time left on D1.

Oh. and what's this?

I tend to stay out of meta arguments

Zakeri is just trying to encourage a D1 Raikaria lynch for traditional reasons that don't even hold water.

On top of this crap, he makes a lot of worthless statements that just sound like faking towniness.

Yeah; turns out the guy I pushed was a VT. Typical that the guy acting most scummy was a VT.

In fact if it wasn't for the OP saying a 3rd party's wincon can be trusted to require survival; I'd say he was a Jester.

In fact if he flips town I will be astounded.

Seriously, all these are completely unnecessary, and the last one just fits more in the tone of wanting to take less of the blame for a town lynch.

I hate you all.

[FinnKaenbyou]

Polly claim is at least reasonable enough to last for a day or two, I think.

PX - Reeks of appeal to emotion. You're L-2 and pretty much on the verge of a lynch, so you should probably claim.

[Raikaria]

Oh look; PX is tunneling on me still and hasn't even mentioned his opinions on anyone else.

Seriously; PX; I think your most common word this game is 'Raikaria'. We get it; you don't like me. Now how about your opinions on someone who isn't me?

[Raikaria]

And no PX; all those things you quoted were all me saying 'The dude's scummy'. The Jester one in particular was a reference that in my opinion Sky_Paladin had done nothing at all that seemed the slightest bit town; to the degree I actually had to check the rules to see if a Jester was possible. I was not distancing myself from the lynch. Saying things like 'If he flips town I will be shocked' is a statement of confidence in the lynch.

Why would I distance myself from the lynch I pushed for? If I actually was trying to do that it would have been picked up on long ago and I'd probobly have been lynched for it already. We wound up lynching a VT who was playing like scum. Not bad for D1.

[BigBangMeteor]

Meh. Inclined to agree with Prims about Polaris's role.

##Unvote, ##Vote: PX (L-1!) because I may not be here for phase end. I think I should be, but better to be safe.

PX's last post quotes random things out of context and is also contradictory because he mentions how Raikaria doesn't mind the BT case on him so much and then goes on in the next sentence to talk about how Raikaria attacks everyone attacking him. Also the last thing about Raikaria saying he wouldn't switch his vote off Sky isn't even a scummy thing to do/say.

[Serela]

I'm ready to hammer whenever necessary. We have over 9 hours though, so I'll give people (HELLO BOFH DID YOU DIE?) chances to chime in first just in case. Would prefer that someone else doesn't come in and go "there's really no point in waiting *HAMMERS*" in the meanwhile >_>;

Although since I highly doubt anyone objects to a PX lynch, and I don't think there's any important discussion that cannot wait until d3, I'm mostly just trying to give bofh a chance to post because he really goddamn needs to. I'm gonna lynch him in the face tomorrow at this rate. :T

[BT]

Raikaria and BT are both really obviously town pls stop fighting. At the very least I get the impression BT just wants to keep his case alive and is now pushing nitpicks like the "I forgot Polly was playing" quote (hint this is a stock phrase, you can say it about somebody you knew was playing, like I did 2 posts ago) because of it.

Even if it's a thing people say it was kind of out of place there considering Polly just joined the game. But whatever.

I was going to say what Serela said. As long as there's someone who can hammer (not me - I won't be around) this should be drawn out till the end. I would NORMALLY care a bit more but PX doesn't seem to care himself, evident by not claiming at L-2 or giving more opinions. Not to mention I think I'm losing motivation in general. About Polly's claim, the claim itself isn't that indicative (results are hard to verify, scum have access to more information etc.) and to be honest I don't feel like assuming anything about fakeclaims after what happened last game. Actually I don't really want to switch off that much. Eh.

[ActionDan]

I still think bofh is obvscum being let off by everyone for no good reason.

tbh PX dying is an outcome I'm alright with, but his alignment to me is still a blank. 

[PX]

Meh. Inclined to agree with Prims about Polaris's role.

##Unvote, ##Vote: PX (L-1!) because I may not be here for phase end. I think I should be, but better to be safe.

PX's last post quotes random things out of context and is also contradictory because he mentions how Raikaria doesn't mind the BT case on him so much and then goes on in the next sentence to talk about how Raikaria attacks everyone attacking him. Also the last thing about Raikaria saying he wouldn't switch his vote off Sky isn't even a scummy thing to do/say.

Reporting over analysis much?

Can anybody serious come up with a case for why am I am mafia other than lurking and your posts are bad? Because having my posts get called bad is just serious demotivation. Not even trying to be linked to being scum, just being called bad. Seriously, Raikaria's I'm better than you attitude just pisses me off.

[PX]

I'm ready to hammer whenever necessary. We have over 9 hours though, so I'll give people (HELLO BOFH DID YOU DIE?) chances to chime in first just in case. Would prefer that someone else doesn't come in and go "there's really no point in waiting *HAMMERS*" in the meanwhile >_>;

Although since I highly doubt anyone objects to a PX lynch, and I don't think there's any important discussion that cannot wait until d3, I'm mostly just trying to give bofh a chance to post because he really goddamn needs to. I'm gonna lynch him in the face tomorrow at this rate. :T

You're already submitting when there's plenty of time left? If you're town, create discussion, don't just sit on this shit so scum can keep the status quo. If Bofh keeps not posting lynch him if you want but talk about other possibilities.

[PX]

Oh and for tunneling, I direct you to ActionDan who everybody forgot was playing, he's still sitting on Bofh

[PX]

Or even better post why Raikaria is town

[Raikaria]

Reporting over analysis much?

Can anybody serious come up with a case for why am I am mafia other than lurking and your posts are bad? Because having my posts get called bad is just serious demotivation. Not even trying to be linked to being scum, just being called bad. Seriously, Raikaria's I'm better than you attitude just pisses me off.

It's not 'your posts are bad'. It's 'your case is bad' and 'you're tunneling' and the sheeping as well; such as ED2 when you say you'll just sheep BT's case. Literally you've done NOTHING except push me all game. And I say push in a very loose term; considering that your cases were weak and your activity  low.

And it's not a 'better than you' attitude. It's just a new playstyle I'm testing out after some advise postgame last game about being more confident and less of a pushover.

Also the AtE isn't helping either with things like 'you're demotivating me'.

Now might be a good time to claim as well PX; although since you neglected to do so at L-2 and now L-1 when multiple people have called for it I think it would be safe to assume at this point that any claim you do make is likely a fakeclaim.

[PX]

Now might be a good time to claim as well PX; although since you neglected to do so at L-2 and now L-1 when multiple people have called for it I think it would be safe to assume at this point that any claim you do make is likely a fakeclaim.

You know, I wasn't going to claim because of this reason, but since you gotta be a dick about it I don't care anymore

##Unvote
##Vote: PX

Self Hammer, go to N2 already