The iDOLM@STER Mafia To Be Continued (Game Over)

[Conqueror]

Because there are night actions involved that need to be resolved to decide who wins.

There is one single way left for town to win this even though the chances are like close to zero.

And Dark is not the last scum because Prims pretty much cleared him in the QT. He is either yet another ITP or gambitting town.

yes, and yes. wow, you broke the game, congrats

[Conqueror]

How about to respond to my post instead of repeatedly calling me scum?

[Sky_Paladin]

Vhaltzo, who do you think I should have roleblocked? 

I mean if you were pro for town, you wouldn't be giving hints - you'd be playing with town and saying "role x should do this on target y", at least, that is what I would do. 

[I have no name]

And Dark is not the last scum because Prims pretty much cleared him in the QT.

So a CONFIRMED SCUM said "hey lol this guy is town" and you believe it.

Just think about that for a moment.

Oh also my conspiracy theory about the QT being anti-town+Vhaltz for some reason was actually 100% correct!  What do you know!

[Sky_Paladin]

I was pretty sure everybody's win condition states,
"You win when all opposing factions are dead, or nothing can prevent the same."

This means that scum and itp can't share a win.  Wasn't this obvious from the very beginning?  I assumed that ITP were playing this way to activate their special bonuses so they could kill off towns and scums at the same rate.  Not so they could win with scum.  I mean, the rules say 'play to your win condition'.  Why would they just suicide?

[Vhaltz]

I'm not going to bother replying to stuff that just leads you on for more BS discussion that gives the illusion that I don't know what I'm talking about, that's what you've been playing towards all game.

I REITERATE that the scumteam is WITH NO DOUBT Conq/Zak/Prims. Conq's arguments against it are BS and he is just trying to dissuade town from blocking his kill since the other two scum are confirmed to everybody while Conq is only confirmed to those in the QT, and cum can't afford to send the kill with Zak/Hw without the risk of being blocked by the jailor.

That probably just made things worse WIFOM-wise for the night roles, but I just want to make sure everybody is positive that Conq is scum. Just do with that what you will, I'm out.

[Vhaltz]

Prims decided that they were going to try to joint with Dan despite the risk of not being able to actually joint win because they were otherwise screwed.

[Vhaltz]

He literally just went "fuck this game otherwise"

[Conqueror]

You don't know what you're talking about, and you still don't. Yes, I said it. I think that deep down inside you just don't want to continue this argument because you think I might actually be town (gasp) and want to save face when this is all over.

Your arguments are bullshit. I bring up valid stuff and you brush it off with OH CONQ IS SCUM HE'S JUST TRYING TO PULL THE SMOKE OVER OUR EYES. Or maybe, I'm not scum, and I'm trying to point out why your entire premise is flawed and you're pulling the wool over your own eyes. Huh, fancy that.

[Vhaltz]

So a CONFIRMED SCUM said "hey lol this guy is town" and you believe it.

Just think about that for a moment.

Oh also my conspiracy theory about the QT being anti-town+Vhaltz for some reason was actually 100% correct!  What do you know!

This is not the proper context. They were planning out kills and lynches to make things turn out alright for Dan's wincon, this is because Dan's wincon requires specific Idols to die so that he gets special powers.

Again, Hw said his scumteam was likely to change their plans if I outed everything.

Which I am only because PX insisted that I am still town and should play like town.

[Conqueror]

Prims decided that they were going to try to joint with Dan despite the risk of not being able to actually joint win because they were otherwise screwed.

given that no one else was actually looking at prims seriously doubt this
unless you're pushing that nnr was actually scum with prims, which would mean *gasp* that I'm not scum

[Conqueror]

I'm not going to bother replying to stuff that just leads you on for more BS discussion that gives the illusion that I don't know what I'm talking about, that's what you've been playing towards all game.

I'm not going to bother replying to stuff that just leads you on for more BS discussion that gives the illusion that I don't know what I'm talking about, that's what you've been playing towards all game.

I'm not going to bother replying to stuff that just leads you on for more BS discussion that gives the illusion that I don't know what I'm talking about, that's what you've been playing towards all game.

I'm not going to bother replying to stuff that just leads you on for more BS discussion that gives the illusion that I don't know what I'm talking about, that's what you've been playing towards all game.

I'm not going to bother replying to stuff that just leads you on for more BS discussion that gives the illusion that I don't know what I'm talking about, that's what you've been playing towards all game.

I'm not going to bother replying to stuff that just leads you on for more BS discussion that gives the illusion that I don't know what I'm talking about, that's what you've been playing towards all game.

I'm not going to bother replying to stuff that just leads you on for more BS discussion that gives the illusion that I don't know what I'm talking about, that's what you've been playing towards all game.

[Sky_Paladin]

What I saw was Dan got caught by town and after facing a L-1 the day before, went into meltdown and decided to ask for help from scum to save his neck. 

Scums going for it was the shock surprise.  They had no reason to put their neck out for somebody not of their faction.  If they had stayed quiet, Dan would have been lynched, and then scum could have gone into an unopposed win. 

Therefore, it could only have been viable if they felt that too many of their folks had already been compromised.  I'm not sure why they would have felt this way. 

Judging from Dan's discussion, my bury of NNR went ahead successfully.  This means I wasn't hit last night, because I would have been dead.  Therefore, I don't know why Prims was claiming I was bulletproof. 

I feel like the phase is over and I don't know what I should have done.  Really, ITP voting with scum - unless their roles are really out of the park - seems to have been against their wincon. 

We should have lynched Dan day 2.  I had considered hammering but wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. 

I see now that mercy is wrong~~~

[Conqueror]

Step 1) Look at Mirai Nikki, where I was scum.
Step 2) Look at my play in this game.
Step 3) Notice that my play is completely different here and matches my play in games where I was town

It's not hard. You're just mad because I called you scum and made you blast off early. Well, okay, I was wrong, but I still think your case on Serela was bad because Serela's play here was nothing like in Town Mafia.

[Shadoweh]

What the hell is going on here.

[Vhaltz]

They were screwed because Dan's priviledged info contains something that Prims lied about which I never really picked up properly, so he was forced to joint with Dan.

Dan's wincon being odd meant that even if he is close to being a survivor he has much more to gain with jointing with scum than jointing with town.

Keep the availability cascade going, Conq. Your scum game is horrid if the only real reason people don't case you is because they don't want to deal with you being unsufferable.



Like I said, if you want to continue believing Conq is town after this shit, you deserve to lose town. I'm out.

[Conqueror]

yeah I should have hammered dan when he kept on changing his claim, my bad.

it's a lesson we should all learn, dont let shift claims live, not even for autowin plans like "OH WE CAN COP THEM"

[Conqueror]

Keep the availability cascade going, Conq. Your scum game is horrid if the only real reason people don't case you is because they don't want to deal with you being unsufferable.

You're the only player I find unsufferable in this game, actually. There's so many things I find wrong with the way you play. You pick out stuff that doesn't matter and then spin up bullshit cases around it.

You want to make this personal? Bring it.

[Conqueror]

Worst of all is the attitude.

[I have no name]

gaize plz stahp
stahp eet

Also am I dead yet?

[Conqueror]

Like the only thing you know how to do here is plug your ears and go "nah nah nah Conq you're scum and you suck."

Fine with me. Remind me not to join future games with you again if this is what I'm supposed to expect.

[Conqueror]

I'm not stopping. Vhaltz wanted to start it, but now he's running away and trying to play the better man? No, let's hash it out right here right now. Enough of this bullshit.

[Vhaltz]

You're the only player I find unsufferable in this game, actually. There's so many things I find wrong with the way you play. You pick out stuff that doesn't matter and then spin up bullshit cases around it.

This is somehow your definition of unsufferable. Well it's cool that you don't understand what the word means and that you can't really tell that the real reason you find me so hard to deal with this game which is because I caught you being scum.

And I already explained the reason why I made up my reads on Dan and NNR was to avoid people lynching the people that you (scum) was voting, so if you want to keep twisting that point go ahead and ahead and ahead.

[Vhaltz]

p.s to town: Conq is still scum

Prims claimed Zak and Conq as scum. Zak has admitted to being scum, Conq can't because then their kill gets blocked, end of the story.

[Conqueror]

"Conq would be madder 1000x times madder as town."

You've never even seen me mad. All those other times, that was just bloodlust. I was going in for the kill on the scum.

But if you have something personal, say it.

[Vhaltz]

Mitsuki says I should replace everything I have to say with nice words to make the world a better place


CONQ, YOUR SCUMGAME SMELLS REALLY NICE AND DELICIOUS AND IF I COULD I WOULD EAT IT BECAUSE SMELLS AND TASTE ARE CLOSELY RELATED SO IT WOULD PROBABLY BE DELICIOUS

[I have no name]

Prims claimed Zak and Conq as scum. Zak has admitted to being scum, Conq can't because then their kill gets blocked, end of the story.

I've already said why this logic is actually illogic.

Besides, did you consider...any of the other people in the game could be the scum not claiming even though we know who they are?
Like, say...NNR or dark?

[Vhaltz]

Dan claimed NNR being his ITP buddy.

[Vhaltz]

And Dark is town because the initial plan was to get Dark to L-2 before switching over to NL so that his PGO wouldn't screw with scum's kills

[Conqueror]

This is somehow your definition of unsufferable. Well it's cool that you don't understand what the word means and that you can't really tell that the real reason you find me so hard to deal with this game which is because I caught you being scum.

And I already explained the reason why I made up my reads on Dan and NNR was to avoid people lynching the people that you (scum) was voting, so if you want to keep twisting that point go ahead and ahead and ahead.

Nah. When people catch me as scum I recognize it. Like in Mirai Nikki I knew huhwhat had caught me even if it was for dumb meta reasons. I respected that.
First of all, don't kid yourself. You caught me as scum? I'm not even scum, so that's strike one. Strike two: In the event I was scum, what did you do besides say "Conq is scum for reasons unexplained?" There's a reason you were a lynch target. Your opinions were bad and scummy. Strike three: I don't get mad if people catch me as scum so this entire line of logic didn't work to begin with.

The fact that you're admitting you made up your reads on Dan and NNR makes me feel better that I caught you out on your bullshit. It's also something you should keep in mind for the future because reads can be wrong, gosh. I thought Dan and NNR were scum. You thought I was scum for and so defended Dan and NNR for shit reasons. Sure, whatever.