The iDOLM@STER Mafia Thread 1 (Locked)

[NekoNekoRex]

What did he claim in the QT? That's just obtuse.

[I have no name]

Who replaced Validon? IHNN? I need to check and reread him.

Validon-->Polaris
SB-->HW
CF7-->IHNN
Mitsuki-->Vhaltz

Lots of replacements this game.

[NekoNekoRex]

HW reads pretty town to me so far, no real scumvibes here.

I'm actually probably not going to be around for a bit more, I'm going to a Legend of Zelda symphony tomorrow. Although Dan is probably as good as dead anyway unless that QT has something worthwhile.

I'm just not reading any reason Dan would be town.

[NekoNekoRex]

My Serela vote wasn't really intended to be a park, I need to update my reads again, although I was still a bit skeptical of Serela (and it's better than an unvote). I'm kind of wondering who's doing the shooting with all these claimed vigs. I really wish Serela would claim her conditional since a bunch of people have asked for it, that's being as obtuse as Dan.

Speaking of claims, Enabled BP, AND needs to be shot twice to win? That's an odd wincon for an admitted ITP, especially since it just falls apart once the Enabler dies. claiming ITP even implies not-townie. :/

not buying it in the slightest.

[NekoNekoRex]

Is this setup just vigs and anti-shot powers? That's kind of odd.

[NekoNekoRex]

I feel like someone is lying about being able to shoot. Someone has an active killing power, and it's not me. I bet there's a lair or two among these vigclaims. Something to think about, I guess.

[Shadoweh]

It makes sense if you think about it in context. It's basically a role that needs to be shot and knows the people who are suposed to shoot you. The BP is actually a detriment because it's why he needs to be shot twice to win.

[Shadoweh]

##Vote: Zakeri

[NekoNekoRex]

It makes sense if you think about it in context. It's basically a role that needs to be shot and knows the people who are suposed to shoot you. The BP is actually a detriment because it's why he needs to be shot twice to win.

P sure Dan meant that there's a person who gives Dan BP passively, who he needs to keep alive

[Serela]

>dan claims in QT

At this rate I'm just going to shoot myself if I ever get my gun.

[WHMZakeri]

if we suddenly reach a climax without enough rising action then that's totally not interesting. we need to up the tension more. preferably with an actual post from dan that talks about things.

Except we have no reason to believe Dan's even going to post, much less talk about thing.
Not that people aren't going to wait out until there's only 5% of the day left despite not having anything much to talk about.

Also, Would I be more scum or less scum if I had completely ignore your posts Polaris? I pointed out that they were weird because they made me more suspicious of you. Particularly I don't like how you defended Shadoweh on basis of absolutely nothing (Not even saying she might be town). Why am I not allowed to point out suspicion?

HW's psycho analysis of me is pretty spot on. It's probably getting more and more transparent, but I just wish it was day 3 so I can start working on making better cases than the ones you're all currently ignoring.

Re: Dan: Holy fuck this game. Sending post now and rereading the whole thing from then to here once more.

[Sky_Paladin]

It's hard to tell because of all the replacements, but aren't all the people in the QT voting for Dan...?

[WHMZakeri]

okay, popping up at the last minute with new information that doesn't even fit with anything he said before is bleeding scum intent. He's blatantly playing to a non-town win, to the point that he's admitted it, and everyone believes this to be true ... and we're entertaining it because he can still be town despite this.
I wish I had replaced out before this happened because there's no way PX will find anyone else willing to jump into the game anymore.

I'm fine with waiting until Dan can more properly claim,

cuz I don't want to die by being rushed.

And look who is rushing.

It's you Serela.

You are the one going kill dan kill dan we can do it!

:Blantant lies:

The way this argument Dan presented is going, Serela is pretty much confirmed town.

I get the feeling that the only reason Shadoweh hates this wagon is because I'm on it, I knew she hated me, I'm too ugly  :fail:

[WHMZakeri]

I don't even remember who's in the QT.

[Serela]

Dan, Vhalzuki, SBHW, and Darkie.

Also at this point there are no words >_> I'm back to "can we hammer Dan already?" mode.

[Sky_Paladin]

Ah okay.  So DarkNinjaAbc is the only not-Dan neighbour who is NOT voting for Dan at the moment. 

I'm content to wait and see what Dark's take on Dan's QT comment is.  I'll assume if he doesn't like it, he'll just hammer Dan, though. 

My vote is still on Serela at the moment.  I still think Shadoweh and Conqueror are scums.  I'm sure at least one of the neighbours will be, too.  It'd be convenient if it was Dan but I'm sure there'll be another twist. 

[WHMZakeri]

The only part I got wrong was thinking it was Serela instead of Ninja in the QT Group.

I don't know if I said this before but basically the way this is playing out, my nullscum read of Serela is dropped off and now I'm pretty sure he's town.

[ActionDan]

There are three scum within the following:

CF7/IHNN,
Serela,
Shadoweh,
Conq,
Zak,
NNR,
Validon/Polaris.

considering town's power so far, I'm inclined to believe Shadoweh's role.

leaving

Serela
Conq
Zak
NNR
Validon/Polaris
IHNN

The only one of these that I managed to get a town read on from earlier was CF7.   I'll strike that off.

Serela
Conq
Zak
NNR
Polaris

there are. 3 scum. in here.  Fairly confident in that.  I am going to go back and read them all.  Now listen well.  I am pretty good at finding scum within such a small list, so I'll be going over this today.  since I actually have some time.  I'd once again like to point out that serela is back to, "please hammer dan!" cuz this time I didn't claim in thread.  even though known Confirmed town Vhatlz at least has eyes in the QT.  atm I'm giving them time to process the truth. 

[Serela]

I'd once again like to point out that serela is back to, "please hammer dan!" cuz this time I didn't claim in thread.

you also didn't really do anything but claim, and your raid had ended forever ago >_> (Not to mention you hardly even claimed because it's where most of the game can't see it, and we're still waiting on a third party (in the traditional not-mafia sense) to come tell us what it is augh)

Your post here is probably the best thing you've done all game, and it's only a list of 5 people you've PoE'd as the scum!

That being said I guess I'm interested in the followup you're promising.

[NekoNekoRex]

I'd once again like to point out that serela is back to, "please hammer dan!" .

Cool.  Can you try and push my lynch too? I'd like to hammer you as well right now.

[Serela]

That being said, no matter what Dan does now it'd be really damn hard to reconcile it with his play up until this point, which is practically confirmed-scum-tier material.

I mean, I know it'd be mean to hammer Dan now that he's actually promising material, but even if he started being the best townie ever I wouldn't be able to stop wanting to lynch that slot >_> And we can't cop him because he's claimed an ITP win so it'd be pointless to try.

This is almost depressing. If Dan's town I feel bad because I want him lynched regardless of what he does at this point. That being said, though, the cases he makes might be useful post-green-flip (if he seriously isn't scum, which I highly doubt) so I guess they're not just a waste of effort.

And, of course, the rest of the town from what I've seen (apart from huhwhat) actually seems pretty possible to sway on Dan's alignment >_> Oh jeez. Maybe I should start preparing a fullclaim post. cut by nnr <3<3<3

[ActionDan]

try not to speculate when you don't know my true claim.  Which will come out soon enough

[Serela]

Okaaaay I'll be quiet until one of them shows up.

[Sky_Paladin]

I guess the point is I could put vote Dan and then the claim would come out right now. 

[Serela]

Well, yes, but if somehow the claim is something we actually don't want to lynch then it'd be too late >_>

ActionDan -is- at L-1 right now.

...I wouldn't be too mad at you if you hammered, but we should probably at least wait for someone to tell us what the claim is.

[Sky_Paladin]

You are kind of relying on one of these:
Darkninja, NekoNekoRex, me, Shadoweh, Conqueror, and technically yourself, not suddenly voting Dan. 

You are also relying on Darkninja vouching for you, because the other two still have their vote on you. 

So it's a lot of if's, that's all.  If it were me, I wouldn't be able to sit still. 

But if I was scum in your position, I'd be trying to put a case against one of my other scum buddies so that when I popped red, people would think "Oh so Sky was just trying to lynch (so and so) to save his neck" and make it more likely my buddy was town.  Unfortunately your going for Serela who I thought was scum too, so...well...

Personally I don't care what your abilities or itp condition or whatever that kind of thing is.  I don't even need you to claim.  I'm not pushing for it.  I'm just like, your standing on the gallows with a rope around your neck.  Are you going to be the one to pull the lever?

[NekoNekoRex]

I'm going to try and reread Zak and Polaris but I'm going to leave soon all day for my Koji Kondo concerto so I doubt I'll get anything definitive done before I leave

[ActionDan]

Someone could of course due the protown thing and unvote before "itchy fingers" become an excuse to mislynch, as you have so generously just provided that excuse.

[Serela]

I'd be trying to put a case against one of my other scum buddies so that when I popped red, people would think "Oh so Sky was just trying to lynch (so and so) to save his neck" and make it more likely my buddy was town.

At this point I think it's too late to try to start wagons on people that aren't me or Dan (We already have 2 big wagons for the day and the fan meter is probably actually getting fairly low now) so trying to bus a buddy probably wouldn't really do anything.

Now, if one of his buddies was actually a viable lynch, and he started helping that wagon go up and fighting for it to go through, -then- it'd do something. Buuut me being a thing has nothing to do with Dan (even if he's tried to argue I'm scum I'm pretty sure it's had 0 effect on my wagon building up) and I wouldn't consider anyone else viable.

Also, yeah, I guess I should do that >_> ##Unvote

[ActionDan]

At this point I think it's too late to try to start wagons on people that aren't me or Dan

we have time.