Puzzle & Dragons 4 (I'M THE GOD/DEVIL BATMAN)

[triangles]

skillups for Amon

ONE STEP CLOSER TO 100% COUNTER ATTACK UPTIME
YES

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

Japan's been getting dozens of free tamadras recently, what the fuck gungho

My JP account is drowning in tamas that I can't use because nothing is evolved because I can't handle any dungeons because I have no damn friends :V

[hyorinryu]

My JP account is drowning in tamas that I can't use because nothing is evolved because I can't handle any dungeons because I have no damn friends :V

My JP ID is 242.828.122 if you're interested.

Also, new descended dungeon is silly. The dragon seeds hit for 30k every turn and I think the dragon flower does over 1mil.

[Yukarin]

What do I need to do to beat a Hera Descended dungeon?

[Edible]

What do I need to do to beat a Hera Descended dungeon?

This has a list of sample teams.  She's the easiest Descend but there's a minimum requirement for level/available monsters (more or less) if you want to zero-stone it.

Edit: Holidays are coming, etc.  A metric shitton of stuff starts on the 23rd.

[Janitor Morgan]

And part of that truckload of content is Hera Descended on the 30th.

Relevant to the above; does anyone here have a max-awoken Awoken Odin they'd be willing to put up for me on the 30th? If I combine that with my Drawn Joker, put Ame no Uzume and maybe a carbuncle into the team for their auto-recover awakenings, then have AB Bluebird Blues for poison and a Keeper of Rainbow for defense, I think that should work, though I'll have to make sure that's enough HP...

[Chaore]

son of a BITCH BATMAN IS BACK

there goes my stones for china waifu ;w;

[triangles]

Yukarin - I believe you can in theory Horus/Horus or Horus/Kirin him, but you'd probably need to zero Neptune's armor with Shiva/Droiddragon/etc. Failing that, the classic rookie No-REM build is:
Dark resist / Siren(or another heartmaker) / Poison(or armor breaker) / RK / More Defense (Siren, Echidna, etc)  with an Odin friend.   
I can vouch for this being zero-stonable and I did not have a fully pimped out or even fully evolved team.  You've got more flexibility if some of these overlap - Ghostring, Dark Neptune leaders, etc.   If your Siren/etc is not max skilled it's going to be riskier, that's the main thing to watch out for.

rdj - I don't think any of the active posters here have beefy Odins I'm working on mine, but it's unlikely he'll even be evolved by then - I'll still put him up, I beat Hera with a regular Odin buddy so it's still doable!  The magic number is 8214 HP to survive a Hadespunch (of course, more is always better) which I don't know if you can hit and still field the 3 auto-heal awakenings on your own, but if not you can likely run the more traditional resist method and it'd be pretty much the same puzzlemons.

Here's a ridiculously in-depth guide to doing Hera with resist/Odin.  Be aware it's a LONG DUNGEON for resist teams.  Like for realsies the non-combo teams on the page Edible linked list 90-180mins to complete?  This is accurate.

[Janitor Morgan]

rdj - I don't think any of the active posters here have beefy Odins I'm working on mine, but it's unlikely he'll even be evolved by then - I'll still put him up, I beat Hera with a regular Odin buddy so it's still doable!  The magic number is 8214 HP to survive a Hadespunch (of course, more is always better) which I don't know if you can hit and still field the 3 auto-heal awakenings on your own, but if not you can likely run the more traditional resist method and it'd be pretty much the same puzzlemons.

Here's a ridiculously in-depth guide to doing Hera with resist/Odin.  Be aware it's a LONG DUNGEON for resist teams.  Like for realsies the non-combo teams on the page Edible linked list 90-180mins to complete?  This is accurate.

Ah, I see. I do have enough Tamadras in reserve to fully awaken my Siren but I'm also using those to store +eggs, so if I used those the cost to put more on her later would go up (but she'd have some extra RCV for her leader skill!). Like you said, though, HP is a concern.

I could try to swing it with Drawn Joker / Siren / AB Bluebird Blues / Keeper of Rainbow / Echidna (she'll be fully evolved come Tuesday, and I do have enough ruby dragons and plants to make a bunch of pengdras)...perhaps I could Endless Dungeon for a while to work on matching?

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

Be aware it's a LONG DUNGEON for resist teams.  Like for realsies the non-combo teams on the page Edible linked list 90-180mins to complete?  This is accurate.

I wanna say my zero-stone recently "only" took about 75 minutes, a hilariously large portion of which was spent on Hera herself. (Ama-oo/dark Neptune/triple RK/quite beefy Odin friend)

"Only" about 75. :V

[triangles]

Ah, I see. I do have enough Tamadras in reserve to fully awaken my Siren but I'm also using those to store +eggs, so if I used those the cost to put more on her later would go up (but she'd have some extra RCV for her leader skill!). Like you said, though, HP is a concern.

I could try to swing it with Drawn Joker / Siren / AB Bluebird Blues / Keeper of Rainbow / Echidna (she'll be fully evolved come Tuesday, and I do have enough ruby dragons and plants to make a bunch of pengdras)...perhaps I could Endless Dungeon for a while to work on matching?

Don't burn your Tamadras on Siren, you probably have someone more worthy/harder to duplicate.  Since DJ also is a heartmaker, that'll give you some more wiggle room for emergencies but the HP is really the make or break factor for this strategy.  Again if you can't find a better Odin I'll put mine up that day, but there's pretty much no chance he'll be evolved so that's like 2k HP, 2.3k max  :ohdear:

Endless Dungeon is a good practice place, the last tier of bosses is pretty much the Hera dungeon anyway (but harder, I think)

[Ghaleon]

Dumb question ive been meaning to ask for eons now... Wtf is up with all the people with "@pg" and "@pf" in their name? Im guessing their accounts are on diff continents or something but not sure why they are "px" and not something like "@As" and "@EU".

[Edible]

It's a tag for certain communities.  @SA is Something Awful, for instance.  @PF is puzzleanddragonsforum.  It's useful for managing friend lists if you're a member of that community.

[hyorinryu]

It's a tag for certain communities.  @SA is Something Awful, for instance.  @PF is puzzleanddragonsforum.  It's useful for managing friend lists if you're a member of that community.

Yeah, it also helps because when people want to delete friends, they like to favor people from their communities. Unfortunately, my name is too long to add any @things.

[Ghaleon]

Oh i see thanks. Every @pg person on my list has an incredible amount of +s on levelcapped people though =p, sure seems like alot buy alot of eggs.

[Edible]

It's probably reasonable to assume that people from PAD-themed communities are pretty hardcore about PAD, haha.

[hyorinryu]

I barely have +eggs qq. The most plus-egged guy I have is a +35'd white knight haha.

Despite my +egg deficiency, I'll never understand the mindset of people who feed away REM stuff.

[Ghaleon]

It's probably reasonable to assume that people from PAD-themed communities are pretty hardcore about PAD, haha.

Not to the extent that im talking about imo. I mean if you goto the elsword forums, most people there talk about no cashing, let alone spending thousands on the game, same for warframe forums, etc...

Not that it matters, its nice having stuff like ultimate evo'd ammy's with over 1000 rcv =p.

[O4rfish]

I barely have +eggs qq. The most plus-egged guy I have is a +35'd white knight haha.

You should feed him to a 1* slime or carbuncle.

[Chaore]

It's a tag for certain communities.  @SA is Something Awful, for instance.  @PF is puzzleanddragonsforum.  It's useful for managing friend lists if you're a member of that community.

So what I'm hearing is we need to add @motk to our names.

[hyorinryu]

So what I'm hearing is we need to add @motk to our names.

Some of us are already @pf I think. I believe Nobu was. Personally, I just favorite all of you guys and keep track of things that way. I like how they changed the favorites symbol from starts to flags. Those stars were ugly.

[Ghaleon]

So what I'm hearing is we need to add @motk to our names.

Is one even able to change names? Id look but in a dungeon atm and no time to finish

[Chaore]

Is one even able to change names? Id look but in a dungeon atm and no time to finish

You have no idea how tempted I was to change my name to 'YES IT IS GHAL'

except i don't think it fits

[O4rfish]

Yes, you can change your name.

[triangles]

Yeah it's in the far right options tab somewhere.

MJP's luck finally spread by using him as my dungeon buddy and I have another Tamadra :toot: Who should I put it on?  I can either finish up Suzaku, or pop it on Metatron or Ceres to work towards bind resist, or Izanagi who is weaseling his way into more of my teams or

[O4rfish]

Pinkie has great awesome awaken skills but I dunno how much you're going to use her. She doesn't really work as a sub, and only has one color.
Ceres awakenings - bind recover? How often are you going to have her unbound with other monsters bound and then match a full row of hearts?
Izanagi is great, but I dunno how good light orb drop enhance would be since it doesn't work on changed orbs. Otoh, the changed orbs would help to link up the +orbs.
If I were you, I'd put them on Alice. A skill boost, or two for three, really helps to speed up those thorns curses with a 20 cooldown, and the gravities you'll likely have on her team. And, if you do, and you get another one, you can put it on Owly.

Hmm, Izanagi Parvati Verche Megatron and ... Ares? Hera? Zeus! seems like a good spike team with tons of stall potential.

[Jq1790]

Man, I REALLY need a Bastet.  Just ran through(or more accurately, ran OVER)the Master Tricolor dungeon with Edible's Bastet since I had no money.  Completely destroyed basically everything.  One floor did scare me with two synced Divine Masks, but then I got a 17 combo...yeah, you can probably figure the result there yourself.

Also since it was my first time beating Master, free stone!

[Edible]

Glad you got use out of her. o/

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

Sweet, super metals let me max out my Vamp Lord, and since I can re-farm a third one to fav as a sub by the time I'll want it again I was able to evolve him. (Speaking of, is there any compelling reason not to go for the dark-main ultimate over the water-main one when I can?)

Also I think I want to go for the blue snow globe dragon and use it to max out my Siegfried in his current stage but I'm not sure.

I definitely don't need a third Top Droiddragon but I'm still gonna do the dungeon for the stone, fucked if I know what to do with the drop though. Just feeding it as fodder feels weird. :V

[hyorinryu]

Sweet, super metals let me max out my Vamp Lord, and since I can re-farm a third one to fav as a sub by the time I'll want it again I was able to evolve him. (Speaking of, is there any compelling reason not to go for the dark-main ultimate over the water-main one when I can?)

The blue one's leader skill is 3x ATK to all dark types, no strings attached.