Author Topic: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 5 LYLO)  (Read 68162 times)

Serela

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #750 on: September 22, 2013, 05:32:32 AM »
I may or may not be paranoid about Masons after Prims/Rawr
roflllll

Anyway, I think the BBM/NNR looks mostly like a misunderstanding and/or playstyle differences.
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My problem with both the Mason lynch and the Zak lynch is that you didn't actually find them scummy.
This is a legitimate reason but I think the application here is also more of a misunderstanding (and maybe also NNR going too hard on the role debunk offensive as he kinda admits in the previous post)

this being said I don't have a town!read on NNR and his play overall isn't exactly impressive, but the BBM case isn't one I'd vote NNR with at all (My own priorities are pending posts from my other suspects because of reasons)
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Serela

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #751 on: September 22, 2013, 05:33:50 AM »
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(My own priorities are pending posts from my other suspects because of reasons)
also the same reason I'm sadly holding back from asking NNR questions whilst he depressively lacks direction
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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #752 on: September 22, 2013, 06:51:07 AM »
And i guess i'll continue being somewhat useless.
Anyway. Kind of suspect 3 people. Dormio, and i'm guessing Paperblade might have been just bussing him to get some credit. Kilga/Bard i'll write my reasons a bit later. And finally Schezo whom i still haven't written off as a town.
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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #753 on: September 22, 2013, 09:57:40 AM »
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##Vote NNR
There are a lot, and I mean a lot, of retarded things in NNR's posts.
However what we're looking for is scumminess, not stupidity, so I've been trying to read NNR's posts whilst ignoring all of the idiotic things he's spouting.
It's hard. Whatever.

First of all, let's take a look at NNR's D1. (It's pathetic.)
For the first portion of the game, NNR votes HW on the sole basis that he's calling Serela town.
Doesn't bother explaining why this is scum HW talking. Doesn't bother stating his opinion of HW. Doesn't bother stating his opinion of Serela.
Just votes HW and keeps asking for evidence of Serela being town.

He finally gives up the point here and replaces it with something really weird.
Like, I seriously don't get that vote on Raikaria.
Pretty obvious, but he's fallen into a pit trap where he's only defending himself (and doing it badly) and not hunting scum .
##Vote: Raikaria until he can actually come up with some scumreads, seriously.
The fuck?
You claim that it's obvious that Raikaria has fallen into a "trap" where he's forced to focus on defending himself, and yet you vote for Raikaria in the same post for focussing on defending himself.
If it's so obviously a trap, as you claimed it to be, why did you add to the votes on Raikaria so as to further increase the pressure on him and force even more defensive play?
Going for the easy vote, were we?

And then, we have a brief jump back to voting HW before he swings back to Raikaria.
Throughout this particular sequence, NNR does exactly what he originally accused Raikaria of doing and focuses only on defending himself.
Why didn't he follow his own advice and do what he claims he normally would have done as town?

I don't like this post either.
Ignoring the part where he blatantly oversimplifies my case and brushes it off as focusing only on RVS, the thing I find interesting in this post is the part where he says that he agrees a lot with HW.
The same HW that he continues to question and throw doubt upon the claim of.
It's like, NNR finds HW to be townie enough to follow his thoughts whenever it's convenient for him, and HW is scummy and obviously lying through his teeth at any other time.
I guess it's really easy to only see what you want to see.

And then we have these two godawful posts.
You know, for someone that claims that I'm scummy for making posts that are too long and therefore hard to read, you sure do seem to like doing the same.
Except your posts have no focus and are extremely difficult to follow as a result, and they don't even tell us anything.
And to think this is the person that's constantly (incorrectly) accusing me of not reaching any conclusions.
Really, there is absolutely nothing to glean from these posts other than some sniping at my posts which I'll get to later.

I'm not really seeing Town!Raikaria or Town!CF7 though, but maybe it's because I'm not really getting why they would be after 45 hours of badposts
Oh, hey, suddenly you see either Raikaria or CF7 as being scum.
Let's just ignore the fact that you hadn't really addressed CF7 until that point in time.
A few mentions in your "notepad" posts don't count.
CF7 has totally been doing some scummy shit and you sure are glad that there's a wagon on him.
Seriously, what the fuck is this pushing of both the wagons.

Another thing I'd like to note about NNR's D1 is how hard he was cheerleading my wagon.
Dormio 185 is holy shit tldr
except I am reading it anyway
what the hell is all this
prolonging the RVS...
this is literally a text wall on RVS posts, fuck.
I dunno if I can even agree with this stuff, and I'm voting Raikaria. It's really :tryhard: though, and doesn't have any other reads
HW 196 has many agreeable statments, like on Dormio, and stuff on Kilga I failed to notice because I'm awful at mafia. lurker lynch on D1 seems :I tho, kind of an iffy suggestion
More Dormio posts that are long and also long and :tryhard:. It doesn't even have a read at the end, just a "I dunno"
Lol he's responding to Dormio's post. I would honestly have just brushed it off, that's a bunch of nitpicky shit he's addressing
Dormio are you going to give conclusive reads to anyone you make a text wall on
Satisfying Dormio vote from Kilga. Dormio getting called out on his shitposting is good.
Still 5 pages from the end of this but so far I want to lynch between Dormio, CF7, and Raikaria
I kinda want to lynch Dormio for being the most worthless and making a bunch of inconclusive text walls tbh
I liked the time when you actually voted for me or tried to put any pressure on me for being so apparently scummy.
Wait a second. That's right, you never did.
Perhaps this was because my wagon never picked up steam?
Got to hold your vote until the lynch looks viable, right?
Just like the one on CF7.

And then we begin D2 with this.
Of course, since you mislynched Raikaria the other day and conveniently lost access to the thread before you could switch your vote, this means that you can now casually switch your vote over to CF7 since that's who you were actually planning to lynch the other day.
Isn't that wonderful for you?
I believe this thought process is supported by how you poke at CF7 with various suspicions during the beginning of the day but ultimately drop them when other people don't show enough interest.

Let's move on to here now.
>I am still on every scumread list
>I didn't expect to live to D2
;w;
Other people have already stated how this was overreactive, so I'm not going to dwell on it and merely point it out here.
However, when it comes to things like this:
Ugh, these are just awful. He could not sit on the fence any harder about his non-Raikaria reads, In fact, he more or less just coasted on the Raikaria vote to the end of the day. Now only today does CF7 suddenly look interesting enough to vote.
This statement is outright untrue, like I've said on multiple occasions.
I do not understand how NNR reached the conclusion that I had no read on CF7, when I said that I simply preferred Raikaria's lynch.
I've clarified this time and time again, yet NNR refuses to acknowledge my words and instead repeats the same sentiment that I was supposedly undecided on every read bar Raikaria.
Like really. What the fuck.

Also, the fact that NNR is actually using something like this as an actual grounds for suspicion...
Had a bunch of really lame text walls throughout D1, which is odd because he was also "busy" but had time to make a bunch of text wall reads,
Really? Really? Is this the best you could come up with?
How the fuck does this make me scum?
Really. I want an explanation on this point.
Because, to me, it looks as though you were just trying to pad out your case on me with meaningless bullshit.

For the rest of the day, NNR really doesn't do much.
He notes some suspicion of Paperblade here.
Kind of want to vote Paperblade despite him also voting Dormio with me. His lack of post content is really glaring. He needs more reads on other big people like Schezo and BT, more active participation.
It's really weak and, to me, it almost looks as though he's just getting himself ready for a jump in case his buddy is actually going to get lynched that day.
Note the casual distancing by mentioning that NNR has gained some suspicion despite the fact they're both voting for me.
In other words, NNR is trying to say that he's voting me for a different reason that Paperblade and shouldn't be associated with Paperblade as a result.
Put in other words again, NNR looks like he's just making all the preparations in case Paperblade is lynched.

He also has this insightful piece to say.
I kind of want to see Zak lynched tomorrow just so we could see if we can't confirm another townie.
What the fuck?
Really? I don't think I really have to say much about this.

And then, finally, let's move onto NNR's content for today.
In particular, the first thing I want to look at is this:
Having a confusing writeup every 12 hours is definitely a good way to look active and get away with not really playing, you know. Add this to the fact you can essentially say "Covered him, time to ignore for the next 3 days" means you can just tunnel whoever but say you still have reads on other people.
I haven't liked Dormio's reactions so far in the game, and I still don't like how he posts walls on people then leaves them alone in terms of reading. I see it as posting to look town/active, not posting to hunt scum. If that's a playstyle complaint, then ???? I dunno how to react to that. If it's meta then :meta: I don't tend to play around with that.
This is just plain bullshit.
Like, I get that you're trying to paint a case on me, but at least try to make it convincing and get your facts straight.
Making desperation arguments like this is just sad.
To take it apart piece by piece, let's start with your statement that my posts are confusing.
How so? I don't think that my posts are confusing in the slightest.
The only thing that may make them slightly hard to read is length, but if you can't even bother reading ~500 of my words, I think that you're just being lazy.
Secondly, the statement that I'm forgetting about any person that I make a case on so that I can say something to the effect of "covered this guy, let's move on".
What. Tell me, where have I ever ignored someone? I answer questions and provide clarification, I don't really know what more you want.
And, finally, I have reads on other people.
How the fuck is this meant to even be a point against me?
It's pretty pathetic to see someone that desperate for additional arguments in a case.

Also, inb4 NNR calls this post inconclusive too.

SB

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #754 on: September 22, 2013, 10:54:51 AM »
i fell asleep at 5am and woke up at 10 i feel like shit

Dormio is probably town due to the tunnel but I don't think it really clears CF7 since Raikaria flipped town anyway, so Paper pushing him as a counterwagon seems null.

SB's case is cool I guess about CF7 but I would like him to address this: His content on NNR is fine too but I don't know what that shot at BBM is.  Can you rephrase it?  I'm having trouble with it.

It's basically void now since Paper flipped town, but essentially BBM attacked him for something that happened 20 pages ago and wasn't even about the player, it was about the role, and he kind of waffled on Paper a lot in that post despite leading the wagon on him.

Given that Hider goes first in NAR, why isn't SB dead given his claim? If you want ties to dead scum go to SB's posts and search for "Paperblade."

Normal hiders have the person they hide behind taking the action for them, iirc. It's not the only difference.

My role isn't literally ascetic but it acts like one as long as the conditions are fulfilled

I kind of crumbed that I wouldn't die here.

If I was mafia, why would I kill the player who was giving me a false clear? It makes no logical sense since I would know that he was lying and would be lynched afterwards while already a man down. Also double claiming Ascetic D1 would be lol.

Dormio's case on NNR seems pretty solid, in all honesty. I already said some stuff about NNR a few pages back to add onto that and I don't spot anything in Dormio's case on him I disagree with either.

##Vote: NNR

CF7, why are you writing off Dormio and Paperblade's interactions as bussing instantly? Would like you to explain your thought process on this.

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #755 on: September 22, 2013, 11:05:25 AM »
It's basically void now since Paper flipped town
???

SB

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #756 on: September 22, 2013, 11:44:57 AM »
I thought BBM might have been opportunistic pushing a mislynch if Paper flipped town, but he didn't, and I think a bus is a little less likely (not impossible though.)

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #757 on: September 22, 2013, 03:13:57 PM »
Um SB just to make sure I understand your role, as long as Yuno was alive you were basically ascetic? That's it?

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #758 on: September 22, 2013, 03:41:58 PM »
3.2: Votecount of an Egoist

"Mirai Nikki, where your Best Imaginary Friend turns out to be real and sends you pathetic ass into the Lions den with 11 other Players to the death, including a Psychotic Bitch, an, Extreme Sentai fan, A Female Big Boy look alike, and a Modern Nazism Enthusiast"

Bardiche (1): Conqueror
NekoNekoRex (3): BBM, Dormio, Serious Bananas

Not voting: NekonekoRex, BT, Bardiche, ESerelaBusy, Schezo, CF7

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BigBangMeteor

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #759 on: September 22, 2013, 03:49:14 PM »
I don't think pushing someone for a role reason allows you to distance yourself from the lynch. That doesn't make sense to me. If anything it's less, because people are more inclined to push you for using rolespec than for using more "regular" scumhunting. And yes, the similar claims were an issue from 20 pages ago, but that doesn't make it outdated, because nothing had changed in that aspect since then, just like electricity isn't outdated despite being old.

Also something I realized- in his end D2 Zak push, he specifically says that he wants to lynch Zak to get another confirmed townie. Today though, he said that he never meant "lynch Zak to confirm SB". Feels like backpedalling to me.

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #760 on: September 22, 2013, 04:02:51 PM »
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BARD ARE YOU GOING TO ACTUALLY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE GAME TODAY OR ARE WE LYNCHING YOU

Your muffled screams were the lullaby that inspired my sleep last night.

Off-hand I'm going to say Yukiteru is not likely to be scum. Consider the following:

1) HW flipped and confirmed Serela as Town.
2) Yukiteru and Yuuno were thought to be probably Town, and a Hider commonly dies when their target dies.

Therefore, it is safe to assume that Scum went for Yuuno because they wanted a 2-for-1 prize, rather than off a confirmed Townie. At worst, Yuki is a 3rd party, but there's no real reason (yet) to entertain that line of thought. Conq immediately voting there evidences a certain r?cksichtlos attitude.

Speaking of Conq, I'm curious why the first night you dropped hints about who you were hiding behind in case of untimely death, but this night that information was absent. Is there good cause for this shift in strategy?

I also find this post somewhat curious. If you're a hider, shouldn't you know the circumstances of it? The claim is made here, so I'm curious about it now. Call it rolefishing, but this can also be forgetting your ploy from last time.

Vote on me is basically "bard is out of character" which is a silly meta argument that's wrong besides. I've never replaced into a game without being able to actually read the game prior to replacing in, especially not one of this size. My behaviour therefore cannot be "out of character".

There's a few things I'm interested in pursuing today, but I'll take it all step by step.

I am interested in BT. Yes, I will come back to him like an abused housewife. BT, who do you think is the scummiest player currently, and who is the towniest player? Like, someone you are SO SURE OF that you would vig them if scum or bodyguard them if town?

Similarly, I want to hear the same from Schezo.

NNR, how about you too? You're pretty interesting, because last night you said you would lynch Zak just to see if we could confirm another Townie. I don't think that means you're scum, however; That position is too easy to take. I think we should moreso be looking at this post and the ones around it, where you're flopping about Paperblade and prefer a Dormio lynch over him, making a deal about how you're uncomfortable with voting him. Making a case about how "claiming ascetic D1 is what a townie would do" seems like a soft attempt to try and get people to look elsewhere. At the same time you're not heavy defending him.

Vote is going there for the moment, I'm still in the process of making up my mind on some issues, notably how it feels like BBM hasn't pushed heavily one way or the other, and I rather dislike the vote for Paperblade which he ends with "Schezo has enough votes ftm". Amount of votes someone has should not be a guiding principle for voting someone else, I feel.

##Vote: NNR

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #761 on: September 22, 2013, 05:23:10 PM »
Ugh... Achievement Unlocked! 20G - Food Poisoning.
You're feeling like shit and you look like a fresh zombie and can probably pass for a sun deprived human with little trouble.

But i'm feeling well enough to write bad jokes about this, so it's kind of okay.
Anyway, i'll probably will be off-line for the next 12 hours or so. I'm still very weak and going to sleep soon. Sorry.
Sometimes rumors are just... rumors

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #762 on: September 22, 2013, 10:49:38 PM »
Tch, I'm actually not sure what to talk about.

I've had to stop to consider if Schezo actually thinks I'm bullshitting a case on him. His rebuttals have been to point out the weak links in my case but in said case were strong arguments - that he'd parked his vote on me for D1 and that his claims of paranoia are hard to believe, not to mention using that paranoia in conjunction with not sharing clear stances on Raikaria/CF7 makes his involvement in the D1 end wagons suspect. Meaning, my case was well-placed, though he still argues that I'm scumcasing over the small details. Like, fuck, claims like "you didn't read my posts" are practically refuge in audacity. Outside of this vote he shows no strong opinions (not even strong rhetorically like his opinion of me). ...Too many things I think would've gone differently if he were town.

##Vote Schezo

NNR has been pinging me since forever. Dormio makes a good case and covers some of the things I pointed out on D2. I also think his hesitant behavior towards lynching Paperblade might've happened because he felt he needed to justify why he suddenly prefered him over the Dormio vote, and that his mention of lynching Zak happened because he knew a buddy was going down and wanted to open doors. But here's where the doubt begins - Zak ended up dying anyway, presumably by scum, so what was the point of trying to set him up as a future information lynch? There's also this -

>I am still on every scumread list
>I didn't expect to live to D2
;w;

Changed my mind on this. Considering a bunch of people handwaved him as town thanks to his mid-D1 rage, it'd actually make sense from town-his perspective to think of himself as a possible NK target. Let's assume that he's scum and has spent most of N1 rejoicing in the scum QT - what would be the point of bringing up this status of his in the thread? I know that, were I in his place, the thought wouldn't cross my mind, as scum don't expect to be nightkilled - and even if it would cross my mind, I'd keep it out of the thread out of the chance that people would suspect me for living longer than I should have in the long run.

I don't expect this wagon to subside so easily, so NNR should consider claiming early, in any case. I'm still contemplating if I want this at all.

Conq has a point about Bard - mainly that his case on me wasn't so hot. Kilga's play wasn't bad but it wasn't good either, and if I'm right about NNR the Bard slot has essentially been voting town all game. Granted, the case ends here. I don't know what else to say. Will vote this over other things?

Conq himself has dropped even more in priorities after the Paperblade flip, I see nothing wrong with his play, and other reasons that I won't disclose now. I'd look at Dormio for scum if we reach this far down.

My opinion on the Yuki-Yuno pair is that it is broken as fuck to give town a compulsive vig in response to a scum death. SB is confirmed Yuki at this point so it's highly suggestive that he's not scum. ITP maybe, but who cares? It'd also be really easy to check if he was ascetic for these two cycles and then having two ascetics on one scumteam would be absurd. #gaming once again

I didn't mention CF7 anywhere and I'm actually unsure but my gut says he's been town ever since D2? He did say he played D1 purposefully bad and a lot of people who suspect him make a habit of voting him primarlity for his D1 play. There's his claim too. I think it's more likely a townie, all things considered.

(not having things to talk about my ass)

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #763 on: September 22, 2013, 11:20:58 PM »
But here's where the doubt begins - Zak ended up dying anyway, presumably by scum, so what was the point of trying to set him up as a future information lynch?
I'm going to say that I don't think that this is applicable, just because of how much flak NNR caught late D2 for that attempt to set up a Zakeri information lynch.
To me, it seems like an easy way for NNR to buy himself an out and not have to deal with the ramifications of his "Let's lynch Zakeri to confirm a townie".

Changed my mind on this. Considering a bunch of people handwaved him as town thanks to his mid-D1 rage, it'd actually make sense from town-his perspective to think of himself as a possible NK target. Let's assume that he's scum and has spent most of N1 rejoicing in the scum QT - what would be the point of bringing up this status of his in the thread? I know that, were I in his place, the thought wouldn't cross my mind, as scum don't expect to be nightkilled - and even if it would cross my mind, I'd keep it out of the thread out of the chance that people would suspect me for living longer than I should have in the long run.
But what about the blatant AtE?
I still think that this is doing nothing more than attempting to attract sympathy and hopefully deflect attention.

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #764 on: September 22, 2013, 11:41:47 PM »
I'm going to say that I don't think that this is applicable, just because of how much flak NNR caught late D2 for that attempt to set up a Zakeri information lynch.
To me, it seems like an easy way for NNR to buy himself an out and not have to deal with the ramifications of his "Let's lynch Zakeri to confirm a townie".
I'm staring at this for five minutes now and have no idea what you're saying. I'm actually going to admit that the point is faulty anyway because they may have agreed to kill Zak only after talking about it and NNR would have had other thoughts before that...ANYWAY

But what about the blatant AtE?
I still think that this is doing nothing more than attempting to attract sympathy and hopefully deflect attention.
It's AtE on the surface? But where would Scum!NNR get the idea? Think of it this way - as scum he would get a lot of heat on D1 only for it all to vanish and people to claim that he's probably town. He's more likely to be thankful for the whole thing and move on - thinking that he was obvtown over that would be delusional and scum would probably be more likely to be paranoid over their status. Don't get me wrong, the quote in question was an overreaction and the flak is justified, but when you actually think about it it makes a lot less sense.

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #765 on: September 22, 2013, 11:47:26 PM »
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##Vote NNR
There are a lot, and I mean a lot, of retarded things in NNR's posts.
However what we're looking for is scumminess, not stupidity, so I've been trying to read NNR's posts whilst ignoring all of the idiotic things he's spouting.
It's hard. Whatever.
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First of all, let's take a look at NNR's D1. (It's pathetic.)
For the first portion of the game, NNR votes HW on the sole basis that he's calling Serela town.
Doesn't bother explaining why this is scum HW talking. Doesn't bother stating his opinion of HW. Doesn't bother stating his opinion of Serela.
Just votes HW and keeps asking for evidence of Serela being town.
It was an odd claim to make with no evidence, on early D1. Big deal? It's kind of hilarious how much attention you'd want to put on an ED1 vote.

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He finally gives up the point here and replaces it with something really weird.
Like, I seriously don't get that vote on Raikaria.The fuck?
You claim that it's obvious that Raikaria has fallen into a "trap" where he's forced to focus on defending himself, and yet you vote for Raikaria in the same post for focussing on defending himself.
If it's so obviously a trap, as you claimed it to be, why did you add to the votes on Raikaria so as to further increase the pressure on him and force even more defensive play?
Going for the easy vote, were we?
Eh? I don't even remember that quote. I would have changed my mind though, Raikaria by that point was just getting utterly ridiculous. Any non-scum read on him I would have had I would have turned around later.

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And then, we have a brief jump back to voting HW before he swings back to Raikaria.
Throughout this particular sequence, NNR does exactly what he originally accused Raikaria of doing and focuses only on defending himself.
Why didn't he follow his own advice and do what he claims he normally would have done as town?
People thought this stuff was town before. What makes it scummy now? Huhwhat was also ignoring me during D1 and wouldn't clarify any farther until after my frustration ended up derailing the thread. I think the vote worked. I was still trying to put pressure on HW as well.

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I don't like this post either.
Ignoring the part where he blatantly oversimplifies my case and brushes it off as focusing only on RVS, the thing I find interesting in this post is the part where he says that he agrees a lot with HW.
The same HW that he continues to question and throw doubt upon the claim of.
It's like, NNR finds HW to be townie enough to follow his thoughts whenever it's convenient for him, and HW is scummy and obviously lying through his teeth at any other time.
I guess it's really easy to only see what you want to see.
I dropped HW after the whole "getting frustrated" deal. Are you paying attention? Having a big text wall tunneling on one member, and having no other reads IS pretty bad, you know.

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And then we have these two godawful posts.
You know, for someone that claims that I'm scummy for making posts that are too long and therefore hard to read, you sure do seem to like doing the same.
Except your posts have no focus and are extremely difficult to follow as a result, and they don't even tell us anything.
And to think this is the person that's constantly (incorrectly) accusing me of not reaching any conclusions.
Really, there is absolutely nothing to glean from these posts other than some sniping at my posts which I'll get to later.
Oh, hey, suddenly you see either Raikaria or CF7 as being scum.
Let's just ignore the fact that you hadn't really addressed CF7 until that point in time.
A few mentions in your "notepad" posts don't count.
CF7 has totally been doing some scummy shit and you sure are glad that there's a wagon on him.
Seriously, what the fuck is this pushing of both the wagons.
Hey, my notepad posts had a ton of reads in them. If you parse it, I note clear suspicion on certain posts, and think other posts (and corresponding members) aren't so suspicious. Don;t diss the notepad, man.

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Another thing I'd like to note about NNR's D1 is how hard he was cheerleading my wagon.I liked the time when you actually voted for me or tried to put any pressure on me for being so apparently scummy.
Wait a second. That's right, you never did.
Perhaps this was because my wagon never picked up steam?
Got to hold your vote until the lynch looks viable, right?
Just like the one on CF7.
By the time I could even get the chance, it was deadline. Is it possible I had priorities, or maybe two other people to lynch? Yes.
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And then we begin D2 with this.
Of course, since you mislynched Raikaria the other day and conveniently lost access to the thread before you could switch your vote, this means that you can now casually switch your vote over to CF7 since that's who you were actually planning to lynch the other day.
Isn't that wonderful for you?
I believe this thought process is supported by how you poke at CF7 with various suspicions during the beginning of the day but ultimately drop them when other people don't show enough interest.
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conveniently
Alright, this one just straight up pisses me off. I lost access to the router because my parents think it would be fun to turn it off at night, which is incredibly inconvenient for me. I've posted about this on Lettyjournal before, if you need proof it's a problem.

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Let's move on to here now.Other people have already stated how this was overreactive, so I'm not going to dwell on it and merely point it out here.
However, when it comes to things like this:This statement is outright untrue, like I've said on multiple occasions.
I do not understand how NNR reached the conclusion that I had no read on CF7, when I said that I simply preferred Raikaria's lynch.
I've clarified this time and time again, yet NNR refuses to acknowledge my words and instead repeats the same sentiment that I was supposedly undecided on every read bar Raikaria.
Like really. What the fuck.
I kind of sheeped Conq on the CF7 reasoning, tbh.
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Also, the fact that NNR is actually using something like this as an actual grounds for suspicion...Really? Really? Is this the best you could come up with?
How the fuck does this make me scum?
Really. I want an explanation on this point.
Because, to me, it looks as though you were just trying to pad out your case on me with meaningless bullshit.

For the rest of the day, NNR really doesn't do much.
He notes some suspicion of Paperblade here.It's really weak and, to me, it almost looks as though he's just getting himself ready for a jump in case his buddy is actually going to get lynched that day.
Note the casual distancing by mentioning that NNR has gained some suspicion despite the fact they're both voting for me.
In other words, NNR is trying to say that he's voting me for a different reason that Paperblade and shouldn't be associated with Paperblade as a result.
Put in other words again, NNR looks like he's just making all the preparations in case Paperblade is lynched.

He also has this insightful piece to say.What the fuck?
Really? I don't think I really have to say much about this.

And then, finally, let's move onto NNR's content for today.
In particular, the first thing I want to look at is this:This is just plain bullshit.
Like, I get that you're trying to paint a case on me, but at least try to make it convincing and get your facts straight.
Making desperation arguments like this is just sad.
To take it apart piece by piece, let's start with your statement that my posts are confusing.
How so? I don't think that my posts are confusing in the slightest.
The only thing that may make them slightly hard to read is length, but if you can't even bother reading ~500 of my words, I think that you're just being lazy.
Secondly, the statement that I'm forgetting about any person that I make a case on so that I can say something to the effect of "covered this guy, let's move on".
What. Tell me, where have I ever ignored someone? I answer questions and provide clarification, I don't really know what more you want.
And, finally, I have reads on other people.
How the fuck is this meant to even be a point against me?
It's pretty pathetic to see someone that desperate for additional arguments in a case.

Also, inb4 NNR calls this post inconclusive too.
Ugh, I just don't want to deal with the rest of this wall. Yes, I get it Dormio, you're being smug because now you get to tunnel me after I've been wanting you lynched the whole game for a case I haven't been able to word very well so far. I get it.
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #766 on: September 22, 2013, 11:51:15 PM »
I don't even care anymore, I'm going full gut mode.

##Vote: Dormio

My gut says you just wanna be rid of me so you can ride out the rest of the game on sweet Double Scum Bus cred at this point. If I can't have you, then I'll go for Schezo instead, he's been making me feel pretty sour the whole game too.
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #767 on: September 23, 2013, 12:01:46 AM »
I don't even care if I have to resort to my role to get one of you killed, but by god, I'm going to get it to happen. I'm just going to out myself now, don't even care.

I'm Minene Uryu, aka Ninth, Fucker of da Police (in more ways then one :3 :3 :3 :3 :3).
Aside from being Cop Ascetic, I am also a Town Terrorist. I have a bomb, and during the night I can strap it to anyone I want. If I die, they die. It's like I get to take somebody hostage!

In this case, the hostage is me. I strapped the bomb to myself, making me a Town Bomb. I thought I could get nightkilled, but at this point that's pretty fucking unlikely.

Thankfully, my bomb role also works for lynches!

You want me dead? Fine, we'll play that game, but if I'm gonna get lynched, I want actual scum to be the one who drops the ball, not one of my good town friends. Cmon Dormio, you feeling so lucky now?
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #768 on: September 23, 2013, 12:04:16 AM »
sweet Double Scum Bus cred
Eh?

In this case, the hostage is me. I strapped the bomb to myself, making me a Town Bomb.
um is this flavor or what are you talking about here

anyway this is cool

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #769 on: September 23, 2013, 12:11:38 AM »
Eh?
Misfire. I'm referring to the point where Paper basically tunneled Dormio all day.

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um is this flavor or what are you talking about here
Uh, I guess I just wanted my post to sound cool. By using the bomb on myself, I became a Town Bomb, instead of a Terrorist. I only have one bomb.
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #770 on: September 23, 2013, 12:12:07 AM »
It was an odd claim to make with no evidence, on early D1. Big deal? It's kind of hilarious how much attention you'd want to put on an ED1 vote.
It's also kind of hilarious how you like to exaggerate.

Eh? I don't even remember that quote. I would have changed my mind though, Raikaria by that point was just getting utterly ridiculous. Any non-scum read on him I would have had I would have turned around later.
And yet, there it is.
You claim to have been able to seen through the "trap", yet jumped right onto it.
I'm going to restate: Going for the easy vote, were we?

People thought this stuff was town before. What makes it scummy now? Huhwhat was also ignoring me during D1 and wouldn't clarify any farther until after my frustration ended up derailing the thread. I think the vote worked. I was still trying to put pressure on HW as well.
Who thought it was town before?
What doesn't make it scummy?
Whatever, I'll believe you when you say that you were supposedly trying to put pressure on HW. No matter how badly it was done.

Hey, my notepad posts had a ton of reads in them. If you parse it, I note clear suspicion on certain posts, and think other posts (and corresponding members) aren't so suspicious. Don;t diss the notepad, man.
>Gut.
>Oversimplification.
>Misrepresentation.
Great basis for the "reads" you're providing in these posts.
And, if you're going to argue that I'm scummy because my posts are hard to read, what the fuck does that say about you?

By the time I could even get the chance, it was deadline. Is it possible I had priorities, or maybe two other people to lynch? Yes.
And yet, your main point against me was that I was supposedly tunnelling.
So if you're not voting for someone that you suspect of being scum, it's perfectly fine because you have priorities.
Meanwhile, if I do the same thing, I'm tunnelling.
Pretty selective there, aren't you?

Alright, this one just straight up pisses me off. I lost access to the router because my parents think it would be fun to turn it off at night, which is incredibly inconvenient for me. I've posted about this on Lettyjournal before, if you need proof it's a problem.
Well do you know what pisses me off?
Had a bunch of really lame text walls throughout D1, which is odd because he was also "busy" but had time to make a bunch of text wall reads
Yes, I'm busy.
I'm sorry that it's beyond your comprehension that I've been going to sleep past 2AM and waking up at 6AM every day for the past month just to make sure that I can do everything that I want to in the day, including mafia.
But, oh no, because I'm busy I couldn't possibly have the time to read through the thread.
Nope. Impossible.

I kind of sheeped Conq on the CF7 reasoning, tbh.
Okay.

Ugh, I just don't want to deal with the rest of this wall. Yes, I get it Dormio, you're being smug because now you get to tunnel me after I've been wanting you lynched the whole game for a case I haven't been able to word very well so far. I get it.
So you don't want to bother reading my case, and I'm being smug now.
Okay.
Are you fucking kidding me?

*Claim*
##Unvote
Bye scum.

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #771 on: September 23, 2013, 12:14:22 AM »
3.3: Reject This Votecount

"Lol yep! Her ass is so bad that she "insert spoiler alert here" XD" Dat ass indeed.

Bardiche (1): Conqueror
NekoNekoRex (3): BBM, Serious Bananas, Bardiche
Schezo (1): BT
Dormio (1): NekoNekoRex

Not voting:  ESerelaBusy, Schezo, CF7, Dormio

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
There are 51 hours remaining.
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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #772 on: September 23, 2013, 12:16:36 AM »
Come on, two more votes for NNR.
ez scum ez lyfe.

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #773 on: September 23, 2013, 12:26:05 AM »
1) not everyone has even posted today yet (hi schezo)
2) let the reactions flow on their own first
personally I don't oppose this killing of at least one scum/mislynch

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #774 on: September 23, 2013, 01:00:15 AM »
The multiple comprehensive cases on NNR are pretty good, would sheep, and yeah general opinion that SB probably isn't scum (the reasons for which all check out) is also a relief.

BT's argument on town!NNR is interesting, though.
-hours later oops-
Welp. It's doubtful we can get scum to hammer NNR now but as long as someone people are pretty suspicious of does the hammering, sure thing

##Vote NNR

Dormio don't you dare hammer NNR >:C You better vote NNR like right now okay. Like RIGHT NOW

BT/Bard/Schezo are people that I'd say should hammer. It's not just MY not-town-reads, most or all of the players have good reads on just about everyone else save maybe BBM, right? I mean if there's some kind of disagreement here then okay, but

GET BACK ON THAT WAGON DORMIO
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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #775 on: September 23, 2013, 01:07:33 AM »
Okay wifey.
##Vote NNR

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #776 on: September 23, 2013, 01:08:24 AM »
Though I'm more than willing to trade my life for a scum lynch if that's what people want.

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #777 on: September 23, 2013, 01:15:20 AM »
That claim so fucking next level NNR.

I also don't give a fuck about you BT wah.

As for who is certainly town, it's BBM, the rest I don't care I'm not saying who is and isn't.

NNR too scum.  This is how you play the game not giving a fuck.  I mean I could also write a wall like everyone else has but I'm just going to drop this.  You all will whoo hoo off and descend into apathy so.
##Vote: NNR

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #778 on: September 23, 2013, 01:17:20 AM »
Like.  Why would he not make a bomb out of HW the mason night one it's just so fucking lolz.

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Re: Mirai Nikki Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #779 on: September 23, 2013, 01:25:03 AM »
The way the role works, it wouldn't have worked well, and would have probably been more likely to kill a doc then a scum NKer.
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia