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Byronyello

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Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #180 on: September 18, 2013, 05:14:23 PM »
YESYESYESYESYES

Oh my god, DDC Extra clear.

All I have to say is fuck me. Some things take too much effort.
(Strike-through indicates a clear)
Hard Clears: EoSD, PCB, IN, MoF, SA, UFO, TD, DDC.
Lunatic Clears: Someday, perhaps.
Extra Clears: EoSD, PCB, PCB Phantasm, IN, MoF, SA, UFO, TD, DDC.

Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #181 on: September 19, 2013, 05:19:08 AM »
Unfocused timeout of Kagerou's 2nd on Lunatic in 2 attempts, along with some small, and perhaps now obvious observations that would have been nice to know when I was still 1cc'ing the game.

The first wave has a counter-clockwise spin to it, which means the left side of the screen will primarily be composed of bullets coming down from above, as opposed to the right side. The following wave is the opposite (clockwise). Of course, these spots aren't always safe, since there seem to be no way of controlling where the big clumps of bullets (regardless of trajectories) end up. Even so, such movements definitely reduce the chances of getting a bad wave, compared to attempting a speedkill. Staying in the middle is still possible, but you have to hope for decent RNG for it to actually be a speedkill (like the current WR on RF for SakuyaB Lunatic). It should be noted that the player still moves slightly to the left for the first wave, then slightly to the right for the second. Other players in high-scoring replays I've seen at the moment exhibit the same behavior and manage to capture the spellcard. On the other hand, the MarisaB highscore replay always dodges from the left and dies on the second wave (where the assumption is that the right side would have been safer). You can interpret the death as a careless one, but it still counts as one.

In the end, people should go try it themselves and form their own opinion. I have a 14/20 cap history so far, having to dodge 3 waves every capture.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #182 on: September 19, 2013, 05:25:41 AM »
I actually survived Benben's second nonspell on Lunatic! It's like a cluster of death approaching my face. I'm damned surprised I managed to slip through that... for once.

I seem to be able to beat Lunatic with good success instead of my luck with SA where It's once every many runs. Last 3 full DDC Lunatic runs have been clears. Now if only stage 3 bosses and on weren't so hard.  :V

Hard 1cc: 4 (LLS), 6 (EoSD),7 (PCB),8 (IN),9 (PoFV),10 (MoF),11 (SA),12 (UFO),12.8 (GFW)13 (TD), 14 (DDC), 15 (LoLK)
Lunatic 1cc: 8 (IN), 9 (PoFV), 11 (SA), 12.8 (GFW), 14 (DDC)
Extra Clear: 4 (LLS) ,5 (MS) ,6 (EoSD),7 (PCB),8 (IN),9 (PoFV),10 (MoF),11 (SA),12 (UFO),12.8 (GFW),13(TD), 14 (DDC), 15 (LoLK)

Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #183 on: September 19, 2013, 09:17:44 AM »
Unfocused timeout of Kagerou's 2nd on Lunatic in 2 attempts, along with some small, and perhaps now obvious observations that would have been nice to know when I was still 1cc'ing the game.

The first wave has a counter-clockwise spin to it, which means the left side of the screen will primarily be composed of bullets coming down from above, as opposed to the right side. The following wave is the opposite (clockwise). Of course, these spots aren't always safe, since there seem to be no way of controlling where the big clumps of bullets (regardless of trajectories) end up. Even so, such movements definitely reduce the chances of getting a bad wave, compared to attempting a speedkill. Staying in the middle is still possible, but you have to hope for decent RNG for it to actually be a speedkill (like the current WR on RF for SakuyaB Lunatic). It should be noted that the player still moves slightly to the left for the first wave, then slightly to the right for the second. Other players in high-scoring replays I've seen at the moment exhibit the same behavior and manage to capture the spellcard. On the other hand, the MarisaB highscore replay always dodges from the left and dies on the second wave (where the assumption is that the right side would have been safer). You can interpret the death as a careless one, but it still counts as one.

In the end, people should go try it themselves and form their own opinion. I have a 14/20 cap history so far, having to dodge 3 waves every capture.

I've always preferred the speedkill, since you only have to survive 1 wave for a capture that way (although the spell seems to have higher hp in spell practice).
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Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #184 on: September 19, 2013, 03:30:17 PM »
Improved EoSD Lunatic score by 59M!  :D

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Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #185 on: September 19, 2013, 03:32:03 PM »
Youtube Channel!
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Byronyello

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Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #186 on: September 19, 2013, 03:49:29 PM »
snip

I was always under the impression that this is common knowledge...  It makes the spell undoubtedly easier.
(Strike-through indicates a clear)
Hard Clears: EoSD, PCB, IN, MoF, SA, UFO, TD, DDC.
Lunatic Clears: Someday, perhaps.
Extra Clears: EoSD, PCB, PCB Phantasm, IN, MoF, SA, UFO, TD, DDC.

Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #187 on: September 19, 2013, 04:20:05 PM »
Improved EoSD Lunatic score by 59M!  :D

I call tas. There are not 10 lives in EoSD.  ;) ;) ;) ;)

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Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #188 on: September 19, 2013, 04:29:35 PM »
I call tas. There are not 10 lives in EoSD.  ;) ;) ;) ;)
At least two of them are deathbombs? Unless you were joking idk. Probably joking because of  ;) overdose.

Congrats Cactu!
« Last Edit: September 19, 2013, 04:37:06 PM by BT »

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Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #189 on: September 19, 2013, 04:50:03 PM »
obviously cactu started with extra lives, in which case this score is illegitimate, but even more impressive than your average scorerun since he got it that high with the penalty he gets after each stage.

congratz, cactu.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #190 on: September 19, 2013, 05:35:44 PM »
obviously cactu started with extra lives, in which case this score is illegitimate, but even more impressive than your average scorerun since he got it that high with the penalty he gets after each stage.

congratz, cactu.
No, he started with two extra lives (standard). Deathbombs count as deaths in that ending thingy. One deathbomb was during the stage 6 spam but I didn't catch the other one.

The feels when you tackle Sakuya trying to safespot Meek. Pressure sucks. :<

Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #191 on: September 19, 2013, 08:23:44 PM »




StB and DS (Aya) all-clear!

I started my photo marathon on the 6th with 51/85 scenes cleared in StB after not having played for months (last replays date back to May), although I believe I was just satisfied with clearing 9-1 on that day. The real StB grindfest began on the 10th and a few days later (12th or 13th?), I resumed DS as well, where I had 67/108 scenes for Aya. Fast forward many, many hours, shots and sighs of frustration, I completed my last StB scene (see above) on the 18th (was before I went to sleep, shortly past midnight) and got my last scene in DS (also above) just a few hours ago, resulting in 74 scenes cleared over 10 days and probably my greatest Touhou accomplishment to date! Feeling really satisfied right now. :D

Some stats for those who are interested (not a lot of people, I suppose):
- last 5 scenes cleared in StB were, in that order, ex-6, ex-4, 10-4, 10-5 and 10-8; last 6 scenes in DS were 11-6, ex-3, 11-7, 12-7, ex-5 and 9-4
- Star Sword Apologetics and Pandemonium took by far the longest to clear, with 2942 and 2630 shots, respectively; trailing at a distant 3rd place is Border Between Wave and Particle at 920 (Kinkaku-ji sits at 7th/8th place overall, depending on whether you count my shitty StB 3-1 clear from last year :derp:, Recollection is 4th)
- here's a table of all 75 scenes I cleared (including StB 9-1)

Didn't save replays of all of them, but I should have one for most of them. I might upload a vid sometime if I ever get around to recording them and once my internet stops being shit.

So happy. :D
Lunatic 1ccs: MoF (ReimuB)

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Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #192 on: September 19, 2013, 08:39:41 PM »
So happy. :D
Nice!  I remember when I got down to clearing those last scenes in StB and DS...my worst was 1733 for Vague Recollection, nothing else topped 500 shots, and I think only StB 5-5 was in the 300-500 range.  Congrats though, all-clearing these is far from a simple task!

Though you do realize there's an extra screen if you all clear DS with both Aya and Hatate...so you should probably get to work on that  ;)\
Don't worry though, it's mostly easier, the only one that will make you want to rip your hair out is 10-4.

Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #193 on: September 19, 2013, 09:42:37 PM »
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Don't worry though, it's mostly easier, the only one that will make you want to rip your hair out is 10-4.
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It won't, it'll make you light up like a christmas tree out of joy.  :3
Seriously, that thing becomes a ton of fun with Hatate.

Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #194 on: September 20, 2013, 06:48:06 AM »
Congrats on the new record cactu!

And yeah congrats on clearing all scenes Limian, photo games best games. Hardest scenes for me were by far 12-7 and 9-4.

I did a 4 miss all clear of Suppression by Celestial, could have been deathless but I ended up doing some facepalm-worthy stuff in the last few screens of stage 5 lol. Nice bosses though, I was quite happy about getting Nue's special spell card on the first attempt. Endgame screen said 41:13, I wonder how fast a speedrun would finish.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2013, 02:38:32 PM by ARF »
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Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #195 on: September 20, 2013, 03:42:02 PM »
Did a no-focus pacifist run of EoSD with SpoilerAL for unlimited lives. Managed to pacify Cirno, Meiling's last two spells, three Patchouli spells, Killing Doll and Remilia's 2nd card.

Not really impressive however because of rank. I wonder if I can lock the rank at 32 with SpoilerAL...

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Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #196 on: September 20, 2013, 03:48:27 PM »
1cced DDC hard mode on my 2nd credit of it ever, when my first was my first time ever playing the game (and I used ReimuB for that, ReimuA for this).  Normal was first credit, extra was 3rd.  Looking forward to facing off against lunatic-maybe I'll have to develop some stage routes for maximum 2.0s?

Oh, captured You Grow Bigger and Attack on Dwarf that run, felt pretty good.  and Seija's final, which is were my first credit failed.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #197 on: September 21, 2013, 02:24:55 PM »
Captured Final Master Spark again, but this time unfocused and with a more straightforward shot - Marisa. Actually tried it with Alice before that, but timed it out instead :V

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Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #198 on: September 21, 2013, 10:59:56 PM »
So I finally fixed DDC after fiddling around in custom,exe (turning the input latency option to "fast" fixed all input lag issues), I then proceeded to do my best DDC lunatic run yet, clearing 4/1: http://www.mediafire.com/?0aqu26cngi9e4fb It feels good to finally stand be able to play this game for real.
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Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #199 on: September 22, 2013, 12:26:42 AM »
After taking a short hiatus (mainly because of school), I have been attempting to No bomb MoF normal. Overall, I can get up through stage 3 with little problems, maybe a stupid death. Stage 4 still needs some work, but I have done the game no miss up until Aya. And I'm actually improving on Kanako.

I did a normal no focus run for fun and got the clear, but I'm not all that happy with it (mainly because my keyboard decided to be a dick during Sanae).

I also cleared UFO Normal with ReimuA. Wasn't the most graceful clear in the world.

Normal Clears: EoSD, PCB, IN, PoFV, MoF, SA, UFO, TD, DDC
Hard Clears: PoFV, SA, TD, DDC
Extra Clears: PoFV, MoF, SA, UFO, TD, DDC
Current touhou goal: Improve! ...1cc more Hard Modes

Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #200 on: September 22, 2013, 01:21:57 AM »
Well, about a week ago, I managed to 1cc UFO Normal for the first time.  The thing that really makes it an accomplishment (In my opinion, anyway)?  It was the first time I had even gotten to stage 6.

Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #201 on: September 22, 2013, 06:28:46 AM »
0-life finishes, casual or intentional superplay, are exciting to watch and/or experience in my opinion.

Creeping closer to UFO goal.

Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #202 on: September 22, 2013, 07:29:42 AM »
hmm, "achievements"

well, I beat TH06, TH07, and TH14 on easy modo *cries myself to sleep*

well i almost beat TH07 on normal (got to the final part with miss invincible Yuyuko and died). can't get past Sakuya in TH06. Th14 I haven't actually tried yet, but I think I might be able to do it if I tried. as for Shoot the Bullet, I can't remember where I got to exactly, but I do remember finishing Letty. I think I got to the 4-x rounds? not sure. the save data was on my mom's computer and I have yet to transfer it over to my computer. still. I don't know how you people do this TwT lol.
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Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #203 on: September 22, 2013, 08:54:31 AM »
Finally got a 1-miss run of PoFV normal (with Komachi, because she's cool).
It's not much, but I'm quite happy with this run.

Keep up the good work, everyone !  :)

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Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #204 on: September 22, 2013, 03:09:16 PM »
Starting to get very close to perfect TD stage 6 Lunatic. Just did a 1MNB of it with the miss at Honour the Avoidance of Defiance. Also, Miko's second nonspell is now my least favourite attack.

EDIT: Another L1MNB and death to the same attack.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2013, 03:16:35 PM by Mr Jovial »

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Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #205 on: September 23, 2013, 04:26:21 AM »
Captured every spell in DDC lunatic (except Yatsuhashi's spells, because I haven't bothered to go through to Stage 4 with a B shot type yet) in less than 20 tries-and all but 5 in 5 or fewer!  Special mention goes to Kagerou for having her spells fall in 3, 3, 2 and 2 tries.

edit: and got Yatsuhashi's after bothering to play through with ReimuB.  Ummm...first spell=cheese, second spell=beyond my ability (though I lucked through it) and third spell=complete BS.  This fight is garbage and I don't understand how anyone could like it.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #206 on: September 23, 2013, 04:45:16 AM »
I 1CC all the PC-98 games. (not including HRtP)

Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #207 on: September 23, 2013, 05:41:04 AM »


Ignore the second entry there. :V

Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #208 on: September 23, 2013, 06:59:44 AM »
Pretty good. Now go grab something similiar on Lunatic mode and sever your ties from the normies.

Re: Touhou Accomplishment Thread 21: Time to go FULL SHMUP
« Reply #209 on: September 23, 2013, 07:15:09 AM »
Pretty good. Now go grab something similiar on Lunatic mode and sever your ties from the normies.
But I can't even survive Normal properly.