Walking Into (Clan) Moordor - Let's Keep Playing King of Dragon Pass!

[O4rfish]

Well, are we wolfbros as well? I dunno what would work in this circumstance, except 3 and 4 are likely to NOT work since Engarna is always wrong.

[Stuffman]

beastmen

no plz

1. Two cows isn't unforgivable.

[Sagus]

Iskalli is right, enough people want our blood already. 1

[Reddyne]

Iskalli is right, enough people want our blood already. 1

Works for me. 1

[UncertainJakutten]

I will vote 1 for Reasons.

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

I will vote 1 for Reasons.

:3


Wolfbros!


Oh apparently we knew Protection but I never put up a shrine for it, it's not a huge deal but a little bit of warding off hostile spirits never hurt anyone (except hostile spirits).


Brodasart, son of the prosperous carl Glendara, has been slain in an ambush. Friends, who were with him when he was attacked, report that the assailants were relatives of Rangarda Dark-Eyes of the Rakstanti clan. According to his friends, the killers said to them, "Stand aside, for our quarrel is only with the family that killed our kinsman, not with others of the Moordor clan." Everyone remembers the incident in which Rangarda stole Glendara's prize stallion, and Glendara's children slew one of Rangarda's sons while retrieving it.

1. Compose a poem in honor of Brodasart.
2. Encourage Glendara to swear off vengeance.
3. Raid the Rakstanti clan. (It's Earth season p.s. these are also the tribesmates we literally just won over, the potheads.)
4. Sacrifice to the gods in honor of Brodasart.
5. Take no action.
6. Warn Rakstanti leaders that more killing may follow.

Glendara is within her rights to pursue vengeance. The people will be unhappy if we try to convince her to forswear these rights. (5)
We are stronger than the Rakstanti. (3)
Our formerly good relations with the Rakstanti clan are now in danger. (6)
The carls were once worried that Glendara would start a feud, but Brodasart was a popular fellow, and now they are hungry for vengeance. (3)
The theft of the Rain Cauldron brought great misery to King Oskul's people. They begged him to pick up his sword again, the one he had used to slay Bad King Urgrain.
It is at times like this that our thoughts must turn to the gods, who were the first to experience the pangs of loss, and thus laid the way for the rest of us. (4)
There is enough death to go around, and the Rakstanti should also be made to drink from Humakt's cup. (3)

GLENDARA! *shakefist*

[UncertainJakutten]

6, and where is the murder the children/Glendara option >=[

[Sagus]

Tell everyone to SUCK IT UP, we don't have TIME FOR THIS SHIT. 2

[Reddyne]

Circle of vengeance. Holding hot coals, drinking poison, etc. The boy was only looking out for his ma. 2 and 4.

[Stuffman]

fucking potheads

6. Maybe they can do something at their end.

[Iced Fairy]

4  Only the gods can help this mess.  Maybe if we get more of them....

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

* ArashiKurobara goes to update LP
* ArashiKurobara sees most recent vote is a tie
<ArashiKurobara> orz
<ThirdEyeLem> Arashi: Want a tie-breaker?
<ArashiKurobara> yesplz
<ThirdEyeLem> (checks)
<Iced|Work> Lem - You voting?
<Iced|Work> Because I don't want to try to tiebreak and then tie again? >.<
<ThirdEyeLem> Um, no, I just thought I'd pick whatever option is the most interesting, reading the LP would take a while :P
<Iced|Work> Then I shall solve this dellema!
<ArashiKurobara> ... yeah no this event is part of a chain don't do that
<ArashiKurobara> Iced to the rescue~
* ThirdEyeLem steps back from the reply button
<Iced|Work>

Spoiler:

Arashi -  Aren't ALL the answers bad anyway?  Just some are worse?

<ArashiKurobara>

Spoiler:

honestly for this event basically yes

<ArashiKurobara>

Spoiler:

for this whole fucking chain

<ThirdEyeLem>

Spoiler:

Probably a good thing I didn't vote then :P

<Akitten_Homura>

Spoiler:

WE ARE NOT MURDERING ENOUGH CHILDREN FOR THIS EVENT CHAIN >=[

<ArashiKurobara> ... ICED ALL YOU DID WAS TURN A 2-WAY TIE INTO A 3-WAY
* ThirdEyeLem facepalms

[theshirn]

postingthane strikes

6

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

But yeah, like, I could have just cast a tiebreaking vote myself but 1) i didn't know which one I wanted, and 2) the whole thing was too hilarious and I just decided to let it stand. I expect this one will probably be short because typing this part before playing I'm guessing it's just gonna be finish this event, start negotiating with pig dudes. :V


Fuck everything about this event chain forever.


Current events! But no one really cares about who's currently chief of who.


Clan Fire Quartz, famed for its robust pig herds, wants the following if they are to join your new tribe. Each clan of the tribe must sacrifice a dozen pigs to Mralota, the Pig Mother, each year, on that goddess' High Holy Day. A Pig Mother priestess must sit on the tribal council one year in four. The tribute they pay to the Rakstanti for the bad smell of their herds must be ended. The other clans must each supply them with ten baskets of acorns a year.

1.  Abandon negotiations.
2.  Agree to end tribute to the Rakstanti.
3.  Agree to provide acorns.
4.  Agree to Mralota sacrifices.*
5.  Allow a Mralota priestess on the tribal council every four years.
6.  Demand that they use their wealth to aid poorer clans. *
7.  Give gifts.

*both sliders from 0-100 pigs and goods, respectively

It is contrary to custom to allow a priestess of the Pig Mother a spot on the tribal council. (2, 3, 4)
This clan wisely uses its wealth to support its weaponthanes. we should do what is necessary to recruit them. (2, 3, 4, 5)
We can easily afford to provide them with acorns. And I doubt they will be happy with less than 10 pigs per year, per clan. (3, 4)
By insisting that the tribe treat pigs as if they were as important as cows, the Fire Quartz will cause discontent among the other clans. (1)
The gift of pig slop is generosity of a most affordable sort. (3)
If we offer them a sacrifice of less than five pigs every year for each clan, they will be insulted. (4)
Mralota, the Pig Mother, doesn't even have any legends of her own. They're just Uralda's stories, changed a bit. (2, 3, 6)

Oh gosh something did happen besides that event and the new one. :V

[Sagus]

jesus fucking christ that's a lot of pigs

Well, at any rate:

7 (better safe than sorry, give the amount we've been giving), 3, 4 (10 pigs), 6 (20 pigs), 2. If they still don't join, 5.

EDIT: Hm, true enough, Stuffman.

[Stuffman]

Don't agree to #2 so quickly, that's sure to piss off the potheads. (Then again, I'd rather have the pig guys than them.)

I suggest:
- 7. 30 gifts.
- 6. 10 pigs. Since we don't strictly need these guys, why not make a demand this time? This would make them cover their own pig upkeep lol :V
- 3.
- 4. 10 pigs.
- 5.
- 2 last.

[Reddyne]

Do we even use acorns? Are they even brought up anywhere else?

Uh, I was going to post something, but then Stuffman already took the lead on it. :V

Don't agree to #2 so quickly, that's sure to piss off the potheads. (Then again, I'd rather have the pig guys than them.)

I suggest:
- 7. 30 gifts.
- 6. 10 pigs. Since we don't strictly need these guys, why not make a demand this time? This would make them cover their own pig upkeep lol :V
- 3.
- 4. 10 pigs.
- 5.
- 2 last.

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

Presents, they're happy, but no reciprocal gifts. >=| Come on guys the first couple negotiations fell through but they at least showed proper generosity befitting the Orlanthi!


Alms for the poor~



Acorns and sacrifices.



Well it took putting all our cards on the table but we've got a fifth! We could make a sentai team! (We're red of course.)


So are we even gonna try to get either of our feuds in? I mean we could go make serious attempts but also we could go give them like one good and make any possible demands just as a "fuck you" if y'all want. :V But just saying "yeah we're good" is fine too.

[Stuffman]

What season are we in? If we can roll over into next year to reset our magic, let's stall for time by negotiating with the other two. I dunno, it might help.

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

What season are we in? If we can roll over into next year to reset our magic, let's stall for time by negotiating with the other two. I dunno, it might help.

Should be the second month of Earth right now.

[Reddyne]

We don't really HAVE to fight them but since we're in a pretty deep hole with both of them, I'm not sure how much climbing it'll take to get out. Either way, I don't think we should do any more digging. Raiding clans is an emergency option, which we haven't really needed to resort to for a while. Maybe see if we can start with the Zethnorings first? That was our fault in the first place. Either way, I don't think we're getting either clan on board for now. 1

How do we go about recruiting clans for our tribe once this initial recruitment thing is over? Can we even do that?

[Sagus]

Maybe see if we can start with the Zethnorings first? That was our fault in the first place.

Wait what
as far as I remember THEY were the asshats that kept raiding us without us doing much of anything against them. We even tried to make peace!

Anyway, I don't think there's much we can do to convince them to join. Let's move on. 1

[Reddyne]

Wait what
as far as I remember THEY were the asshats that kept raiding us without us doing much of anything against them. We even tried to make peace!

Anyway, I don't think there's much we can do to convince them to join. Let's move on. 1

Wellllll sorta? Our rep with them started half-negative and between one raid from them, dumping rubble runners by the truckload in their backyards, and one raid of our own seemed to push it into feuding territory.

Half-hearted edit: Even looking this info up took a good long while since it covered the first 20 pages of the original thread, but that was still back in JUNE.

[UncertainJakutten]

We don't really HAVE to fight them but since we're in a pretty deep hole with both of them, I'm not sure how much climbing it'll take to get out. Either way, I don't think we should do any more digging. Raiding clans is an emergency option, which we haven't really needed to resort to for a while. Maybe see if we can start with the Zethnorings first? That was our fault in the first place. Either way, I don't think we're getting either clan on board for now. 1

How do we go about recruiting clans for our tribe once this initial recruitment thing is over? Can we even do that?

I was under the impression raids were kind of a part of being Orlanthi. Like, if you go long enough without raiding your weaponthanes get pissy, and I /think/ you lose a little magic? That last might only be for war clans. Cattle raids are what you do with your bros to test their guys, it's just jocular posturing that doesn't mean anything, and real raids are what you do with your feuds, but you still don't go out for blood. But it's not really an /emergency/ option, I don't think.

I'm not good at tribe negotiations, so I don't have a strong opinion on this.

[Sagus]

Wellllll sorta? Our rep with them started half-negative and between one raid from them, dumping rubble runners by the truckload in their backyards, and one raid of our own seemed to push it into feuding territory.

Half-hearted edit: Even looking this info up took a good long while since it covered the first 20 pages of the original thread, but that was still back in JUNE.

Haven't they raided us a LOT more than we raided them? And we did it mostly as retaliation too...
...although if they did ever find out that we sent those rubble runners to them, I guess it can explain things a bit :V

I was under the impression raids were kind of a part of being Orlanthi. Like, if you go long enough without raiding your weaponthanes get pissy, and I /think/ you lose a little magic? That last might only be for war clans. Cattle raids are what you do with your bros to test their guys, it's just jocular posturing that doesn't mean anything, and real raids are what you do with your feuds, but you still don't go out for blood. But it's not really an /emergency/ option, I don't think.

The occasional raid is fine, but doing it to the same target every other week is taken as a sign of agression.

[UncertainJakutten]

Well yes that's why I said raiding is what you do with feuds . It will piss off clans to raid them a lot .

[Sagus]

Oh.

Right.

Proceed, then :V

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

Without even a blurb about our choice to be satisfied with our size, we segue straight into...


You and the Greenwing, Rakstanti, Fire Quartz, and Kardavi clans all gather for a moot of confederation. It soon becomes clear that there are serious problems with the deal you negotiated. The concessions you gave to some clans displease the chieftains of other clans. When this is made clear, the chieftains who won these concessions become offended. 2 of the clans are especially unhappy. It looks like this new tribe of yours might be dead in its cradle.

1. Abandon attempts to form a tribe.
2. Encourage satisfied clans to make concessions to dissatisfied clans.
3. Give cows to dissatisfied clans.
4. Persuade dissatisfied clans that the deal is better than then think.

A deal is very far away. (1) (Dude when the fuck did you turn into Engarna?)
They just need a little more persuading. Soon, we will have our tribe. (2, 4)
Twenty-five cows to each dissatisfied clan should do the trick. (3)
We can't afford to give away any more cows. (2, 4) (Dude, when did you turn into okay with this whole "tribe" thing?)
Tell them that if they don't agree, I will send a dreadful curse that will cause their couples to quarrel and their cattle to stop breeding.
Once they understand the benefits to living in tribes, they will agree to it. (2, 4)
Don't let the naysayers get away with doubting this mission. (4)

This isn't our fault guys this literally always happens. :V (The exact number of unhappy clans varies, but the gist of it.) I did forget it happens immediately, but that shouldn't make us much difference.

[Sagus]

Iskalli's age is finally getting to him and he's turning bitter and pessimistic. So sad, so sad.

Can we choose more than one option? I'd go with Sartark's suggestion first, anyway. 3, 25 cows, then, if possible, 2, then 4

Tell them that if they don't agree, I will send a dreadful curse that will cause their couples to quarrel and their cattle to stop breeding.

why can't we just do this

[Reddyne]

Who knew that leading a tribe meant babysitting 5000 people?

Echoing the 3 (25 cows), 2, 4 order of things. It's not worth it to break things up, but we should go for the least troublesome route to keep it together.