Author Topic: You Don't Know the Setup Mafia - Game Over! (Read 32707 times)

Vhaltz · « **Reply #240 on:** August 21, 2013, 03:40:17 PM »

Violating the not posting clause from earlier because this situation is ridiculous for our slot and I can't bear to just stare at the thread to see what happens.

Let me remind people what the cases on us are.

CF7: Our #99 and #100 are "overreacting" (it's a pretty word that was being thrown around a lot at the time so why not?). That's it.

NNR: We suck because we played as independent hydra heads with different opinions and it's harder to read and he wouldn't do that. I can go in depth as to why his last content post sucks all the way to hell and back but it's something that's annoying me a lot and I'd rather not say anything because I don't want to be a jerk. Also I'm not sure if I'm allowed to quote what I said in the QT.

Serela: Nothing. Would be an okay consolidation vote if he hadn't been clinging onto it for 24 hours after saying himself that his major concerns with us had been cleared up.

Vhaltz · « **Reply #241 on:** August 21, 2013, 03:44:48 PM »

The point being that the only reason we're being a wagon right now is because Conq voted us and pushed us earlier in the day, and people decided jumping on the wagon was a nice thing to do.

Serela · « **Reply #242 on:** August 21, 2013, 03:45:22 PM »

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Serela: Nothing. Would be an okay consolidation vote if he hadn't been clinging onto it for 24 hours after saying himself that his major concerns with us had been cleared up.

Thing is, as I said in the same post, none of the lynching candidates are that great.

Your other head Mitsuki said the same thing; that she didn't think any of the wagons were likely to flip scum.

I'm kind of considering Shadoweh flashwagon but A.I'm not sure how much support that would get and B.I HAVE TO LEAVE IN 15 MINUTES, so if it didn't get support I'd have really hurt the chance of a not-me lynch. (And obviously I know I'm not scum so etc)

Serela · « **Reply #243 on:** August 21, 2013, 03:45:59 PM »

Quote from: Vhaltzotsuki on August 21, 2013, 03:44:48 PM

The point being that the only reason we're being a wagon right now is because Conq voted us and pushed us earlier in the day, and people decided jumping on the wagon was a nice thing to do.

Overreaction. Even if the cases on you weren't -great- it's not like people just sheeped Conq and got on.

Serela · « **Reply #244 on:** August 21, 2013, 03:47:40 PM »

If anyone present would consider lynching Shadoweh's slot based on the last few posts here it'd be cool if you said so, since I have about 10 minutes to decide whether I should put my vote there or not before I'm gone.

NekoNekoRex · « **Reply #245 on:** August 21, 2013, 03:47:47 PM »

Quote from: Vhaltzotsuki on August 21, 2013, 03:40:17 PM

Violating the not posting clause from earlier because this situation is ridiculous for our slot and I can't bear to just stare at the thread to see what happens.

Let me remind people what the cases on us are.

CF7: Our #99 and #100 are "overreacting" (it's a pretty word that was being thrown around a lot at the time so why not?). That's it.

NNR: We suck because we played as independent hydra heads with different opinions and it's harder to read and he wouldn't do that. I can go in depth as to why his last content post sucks all the way to hell and back but it's something that's annoying me a lot and I'd rather not say anything because I don't want to be a jerk. Also I'm not sure if I'm allowed to quote what I said in the QT.

Serela: Nothing. Would be an okay consolidation vote if he hadn't been clinging onto it for 24 hours after saying himself that his major concerns with us had been cleared up.

You're not allowed to quote your QT.
My case on you is far more then "being annoyed by how your hydra heads are working seperately" because if that were the case I'd be trying to lynch Shadormy too.
Calm down, you might be able to play better. CF7 is probably on the right track with your reactions being way overboard.
Also you should claim.

Reread BT. Don't want to lynch BT.

Vhaltz · « **Reply #246 on:** August 21, 2013, 03:48:23 PM »

Quote from: Serela on August 21, 2013, 03:45:59 PM

Overreaction. Even if the cases on you weren't -great- it's not like people just sheeped Conq and got on.

CF7 did, pretty sure you did, so everybody other than NNR who votes for us because he dislikes that I told him he was wrong and he's biased ever since.

NekoNekoRex · « **Reply #247 on:** August 21, 2013, 03:50:05 PM »

Too late in the day to lynch Shadoweh, Serela.

Mitsuki · « **Reply #248 on:** August 21, 2013, 03:50:41 PM »

I don't know what to think of Shadormio. I think that my lynching priorities taking them into account would be Shadormio = Serela > BT.

Serela · « **Reply #249 on:** August 21, 2013, 03:51:35 PM »

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pretty sure you did

Uh if I sheeped anyone it'd be Dormio and not Conq, and even then I started thinking it was weird before I noticed his paragraph on it and provided some degree of my own reasoning D:

And yeah, you should claim.

Drat NNR >> Well, yeah, at this point I'd pretty much need the support of anyone present and we likely wouldn't get a claim from her, I guess. Just testing the waters for the possible option, but it is kinda last minute.

Oh right I'm supposed to be eating more food

Serela · « **Reply #250 on:** August 21, 2013, 03:52:27 PM »

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support of anyone present

everyone*, considering there's 4 people here >>

Mitsuki · « **Reply #251 on:** August 21, 2013, 03:53:11 PM »

What if the flashwagon is on CF7? You have my full support on that.

BT · « **Reply #252 on:** August 21, 2013, 03:54:11 PM »

Claim. I'm actually looking at voting you right now. Granted my Serala read isn't solid but if anything it's probably null-town. (still on page 6 herps)

And no no Shadoweh switches. I didn't actually decide if "this is very confusing to me" is scummy. It's not like Dormio being weird is anything new.

NekoNekoRex · « **Reply #253 on:** August 21, 2013, 03:54:29 PM »

Quote from: Vhaltzotsuki on August 21, 2013, 03:48:23 PM

CF7 did, pretty sure you did, so everybody other than NNR who votes for us because he dislikes that I told him he was wrong and he's biased ever since.

If you're going for the literal interpretation of "Oh My God You Suck" then you're doing pretty well.
Seriously, calm the hell down. The best you're doing right now is trying to push my buttons, and that isn't working. if you're going to be lynched, at least take it with a little dignity.

Mitsuki · « **Reply #254 on:** August 21, 2013, 03:54:54 PM »

We're the doc. That's why I didn't want to claim. (=_=;

BT · « **Reply #255 on:** August 21, 2013, 03:55:35 PM »

Granted x2 Shadoweh's initial reasons for looking at me are faulty but I'll cover that some other time and I haven't looked at Dormio properly.

cut well okay how long is there left

Serela · « **Reply #256 on:** August 21, 2013, 03:56:28 PM »

Quote from: Mitsuki on August 21, 2013, 03:54:54 PM

We're the doc.

aghghaghaghhhhhgh

just noting that I'm leaving in 3 minutes so if we're flashwagoning anyone else you should start immediately

BT · « **Reply #257 on:** August 21, 2013, 03:56:57 PM »

Dan if there's any game I felt like getting an extension in it's probably this one.

NekoNekoRex · « **Reply #258 on:** August 21, 2013, 03:59:03 PM »

I don't have very good reads on Shadoweh or C7. I could maybe go for a Serela lynch but I had a pretty strong scumread on Valtzuki

CF7 · « **Reply #259 on:** August 21, 2013, 03:59:41 PM »

Hm... I'm having some doubts. Like some heavy doubts.
I can withdraw my vote and we can get a no-lynch and go straight into night. Not sure how detrimental that would be.

NekoNekoRex · « **Reply #260 on:** August 21, 2013, 04:01:31 PM »

An extension might be nice but it might also be too late to try it, since we already got a small extension.

No lynch is the worst option since we'd be stuck on D1 info-wise.

Guhhh... ugh... nnnnnnng....

That claim is desperate enough to be believable for now, but not by much...

Serela · « **Reply #261 on:** August 21, 2013, 04:02:20 PM »

AGAHGHAGAHHH

##extension if possible

BT · « **Reply #262 on:** August 21, 2013, 04:03:29 PM »

Quote from: NekoNekoRex on August 21, 2013, 04:01:31 PM

That claim is desperate enough to be believable for now, but not by much...

I actually find it perfectly believable to be a fake.

But it's still kind of intimidating.

Vhaltz · « **Reply #263 on:** August 21, 2013, 04:05:16 PM »

I'll give up on my NNR frustration for now but you'll get it post game, I don't think my play is the one to blame precisely.

I normally wouldn't but I'm fine with Shadormio lynch as a last resort since they didn't contribute in 21-ish hours late D1 and I find that scum are much more likely to avoid deadline shenanigans than not.

Mitsuki · « **Reply #264 on:** August 21, 2013, 04:07:04 PM »

Well, since we're probably dying anyways I think that everyone should consider (after the day ends) the fact that there might be a situation on this setup where both town and scum don't win. Look at the town wincon, first post or your role PM will do.

It says that town wins when there are no remaining threads to town, sure, but it also says that a townie should be alive for that to happen. It is usually assumed that will happen so it's not written specifically, but here it is, so I reached the conclusion that there might be a situation where there might be no players left (bomb) or a survivor and two killing roles.

Rule 9 says that MyLo, LyLo, pesudo MyLo and LyLo will be announced. I think that the reason on why we'll need such a degree of precision on that could also be an indicative of what I said.

NekoNekoRex · « **Reply #265 on:** August 21, 2013, 04:07:41 PM »

##Extension as well if we can, I'm going to be pretty busy soon, and I wanted to be done with today after the deadline. I don't have the time atm to look at other lynches.

If not, then I don't think I want to move my vote. At worst we lose the doc and get valuable reactions.

I'll consider a Serela lynch too.

NekoNekoRex · « **Reply #266 on:** August 21, 2013, 04:09:05 PM »

I'm not receptive of flash-wagons since they tend not to work and nobody has time for a proper case. The choices we have now are the only ones I'm going to bother with.

Vhaltz · « **Reply #267 on:** August 21, 2013, 04:09:51 PM »

Note that the wincon paraphrasing is fine since there's a sample PM in the opening post, we didn't just suicide or anything yet.

Just in case Dan is skimming or something

NekoNekoRex · « **Reply #268 on:** August 21, 2013, 04:11:17 PM »

I wouldn't trust analyzing the sample PM to mean anything in particular since we don't know the setup.

BT · « **Reply #269 on:** August 21, 2013, 04:12:24 PM »

I wanted to make a quick reads list before we go into night but I find that I still don't have enough to go off of for most people. This is legit suck.

I'm at where SB pointed out CF's "contradiction" and it really does look like he forgot he suspected Shadormio at one point.

ConqX is Required Reading. I still very much think he's off but I'll have to mull over my points and his rebuttals to be sure.

Stuff that made me want to lynch Valtzotsuki earlier (it's not just Serela Over You) are a few of their posts that bugged me while reading right now.

Quote from: Mitsuki on August 20, 2013, 11:28:22 AM

I know he's a newbie, but since when are newbies allowed not to post and that's fine with everybody? Do you think that's going to do any good for him to learn, let alone for the game to progress?

Like this.

Quote from: Vhaltzotsuki on August 20, 2013, 12:11:41 PM

Conq case was the best I had so secondary scumspects are pretty subpar if I say so myself.

And this which seems kind of systematic.

I don't really know what else.

Deadlines suck.