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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #90 on: August 12, 2013, 08:41:52 PM »
I see Stage 5 as "me spending hours in Spell Practice" because I need to teach myself how to work on reversed controls.  First one especially since switching the left and right isn't as dramatic an eye change for my brain to process (it took me seeing the second card in the stream to realize what she was doing on the first).  The last one is gonna take a good long time for me, though, since I'd need to get the rhythm down (or bomb spam)

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #91 on: August 12, 2013, 08:43:27 PM »
The last one, not so much. It's on my "Just Bomb It" list. :V
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #92 on: August 12, 2013, 08:50:20 PM »
So wait, ZUN said there will be 21 tracks right? But the Music Room only shows 17.

Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #93 on: August 12, 2013, 08:50:53 PM »
So wait, ZUN said there will be 21 tracks right? But the Music Room only shows 17.

That was a rumor.

Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #94 on: August 12, 2013, 09:01:37 PM »
Okay, finally got around to playing this a bit. Have cleared Normal/Extra so far. Both in one credit. (well, normal took 2 because i restarted it when my friend arrived but the first would probably have succeeded as i had full lives on Stage 5 boss)

Quite fond of most of it so far except the Stage 5 boss gimmick. Looking forward to messing with this game more soon!!

EDIT: Also, very happy to finally enjoy a new Touhou game. Haven't had that experience for a long LOOOOOOONG time.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #95 on: August 12, 2013, 09:23:30 PM »
Hmm, the game seems to crash on full screen and forces me to sign out.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #96 on: August 12, 2013, 10:30:02 PM »
well I can say that Reimu B, Marisa A and Sakuya B are just not worth using, there damage output when focused is so low they cant even capture some of Sukuna's Spell card and either get walled or the spell card times out, the only reason I'd see anyone actually using them is to see the endings related to each option but that's about it, they're just not worth the hassle otherwise.

Also, for anyone having trouble with Sukuna's survival card
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #97 on: August 12, 2013, 10:50:17 PM »
well I can say that Reimu B[...] not worth using, there damage output when focused is so low

Totally cannot second this statement. Did my 1cc of Normal on my second try using her with a few lifes remaining. She absolutely annihilates everything for me, though it felt like I was mostly unfocused throughout the stages and whenever I was below full power during bosses. Maybe it's just her unfocused shot that rocks so hard. But I honestly can't say focused shot was bad at all.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #98 on: August 12, 2013, 10:50:29 PM »
I keep on forgetting where the replay and score files are with ZUN's new format. Where are they?

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #99 on: August 12, 2013, 10:53:31 PM »
I keep on forgetting where the replay and score files are with ZUN's new format. Where are they?
They should be stored in "(Windows Partition):Users(Your Name)AppDataRoamingShanghaiAlice   h14".


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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #100 on: August 12, 2013, 11:06:13 PM »
well I can say that Reimu B, Marisa A and Sakuya B are just not worth using, there damage output when focused is so low they cant even capture some of Sukuna's Spell card and either get walled or the spell card times out, the only reason I'd see anyone actually using them is to see the endings related to each option but that's about it, they're just not worth the hassle otherwise.

Also, for anyone having trouble with Sukuna's survival card

Huh? I do fine with Reimu B, I like it more than A but I still play A only because you fight the other girl in stage 4 instead of Benben, and her second spell is just ugh...

Oh wow, my dumbass was trying to weave through the Kunais for Sukuna's timeout.

Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #101 on: August 13, 2013, 12:06:19 AM »
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so apparently Seija's spellcards isnt the only thing evil about her...

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #102 on: August 13, 2013, 12:21:15 AM »
...That Extra Boss theme. I love it. Especially that drum solo.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #103 on: August 13, 2013, 12:23:15 AM »
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #104 on: August 13, 2013, 12:31:18 AM »
So according to the current translation of Raiko's profile, she
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threw away her old drumset and drummer for new ones. I can understand getting a new drumset, but how did she get a new drummer?
Apparently, this has to do with the "outside world's power." Anyone have thoughts on how this works?

Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #105 on: August 13, 2013, 01:02:46 AM »
So according to the current translation of Raiko's profile, she
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threw away her old drumset and drummer for new ones. I can understand getting a new drumset, but how did she get a new drummer?
Apparently, this has to do with the "outside world's power." Anyone have thoughts on how this works?

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I figured they meant her drun sticks.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #106 on: August 13, 2013, 01:17:29 AM »
Raiko is the best reason to recycle TD's spirit spawn sounds, and to have a drum solo using his new kit.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #107 on: August 13, 2013, 01:18:23 AM »
>Raiko's new drummer

I'd say there's a decent chance she learnt how to draw power from Namco's game Taiko Master. I'm not kidding.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #108 on: August 13, 2013, 01:19:45 AM »
The one that is taking revenge on the people who keep beating weak characters (I assume the stage 1 bosses). She's nice. Though really is the Touhou counterpart to a soccermom  :V.
I would hate that screen flipping or hitbox enlarging (Making a "Expansion" pic based on that idea BTW) boss. Unless it's possible to remap controls during gameplay...........

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #109 on: August 13, 2013, 01:28:07 AM »
every time someone says Sukuna i mistake it for myself

feels weird :<

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #110 on: August 13, 2013, 01:30:18 AM »
I had to purposely bomb Raiko's 4th spell. I couldn't take anymore screen shakes.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #111 on: August 13, 2013, 01:31:38 AM »
Well, you could use her actual first name, but, uh, I don't think anyone here has called her Shinmyoumaru in casual discussion except me. ^^;
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #112 on: August 13, 2013, 01:44:51 AM »
I know I'll try, but my spelling is horrid and I expect to have to look her name up on the wiki every time I need to do so for at least a good while.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #113 on: August 13, 2013, 01:56:56 AM »
MarisaA tears apart that stage 5 midboss spell, though... and the first spell that she has. And the third spell with the arrow bullets.

By the way, in Sukuna's third card, it has a hat-hitbox in stage practice but it's just Sukuna by herself in Spell Practice so that's why MariA/ReimuB/SakuB can't capture it.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #114 on: August 13, 2013, 02:18:56 AM »
I was just playing MarisaB and had one of her full-power unfocused lasers veer off at a crazy angle, breaking the formation and shooting off the left side of the screen. I believe it changed color as well. It may have been the one on the right closest to her. I went to screencap it and died. Has anyone else seen this? Is it a known thing? Or some kind of weird feature I was just unaware of? Only one of the four lasers moved, the other three were still in formation. It lasted for several seconds before I died, and was fixed when I came back and worked back up to full power. Not sure if it was doing damage or not. This was during the stage part of stage four.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #115 on: August 13, 2013, 02:32:34 AM »
I was just playing MarisaB and had one of her full-power unfocused lasers veer off at a crazy angle, breaking the formation and shooting off the left side of the screen. I believe it changed color as well. It may have been the one on the right closest to her. I went to screencap it and died. Has anyone else seen this? Is it a known thing? Or some kind of weird feature I was just unaware of? Only one of the four lasers moved, the other three were still in formation. It lasted for several seconds before I died, and was fixed when I came back and worked back up to full power. Not sure if it was doing damage or not. This was during the stage part of stage four.

Yep, it's a bug from back in the demo v0.01a. Hopefully that gets fixed because it probably desynced your replay.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #116 on: August 13, 2013, 02:35:49 AM »
Yep, it's a bug from back in the demo v0.01a. Hopefully that gets fixed because it probably desynced your replay.

Cool, thanks. Do we know what causes it, or is it random?
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #117 on: August 13, 2013, 02:44:53 AM »
when will it be up on Youtube?
Will you upload it to YT?

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #118 on: August 13, 2013, 02:55:12 AM »
Cool, thanks. Do we know what causes it, or is it random?

I never got it to trigger enough to find out anything more than it happens sometimes when powering up.  At least for me it's quite rare so I never obtained enough data to be able to understand what causes it. 

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #119 on: August 13, 2013, 02:59:54 AM »
So does anyone know why the weapons and Youkai have gone wild? I can't find any solid info yet that's out there but from the Final bosses ability it doesn't seem like she would behind that, from what stage 5's boss is it would make sense since she is a
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amanojaku.

EDIT: Ok well just found something (hate it when that happens) it seems that is kinda true but
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they are working together but seems Sukuna isn't aware of the consequences of using the power of the lucky mallet, which I didn't know could do more then just change the size of who ever it's used on. GOD! I love this lore!
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