Author Topic: Miscellaneous Questions Thread 4 - Bring us your Questions!  (Read 194719 times)

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« Reply #930 on: March 30, 2014, 11:42:17 AM »
Does Gensokyo have a postal/messaging service?

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« Reply #931 on: March 30, 2014, 10:18:24 PM »
In SWR, Marisa's house seems to have a mailbox. That's the only concrete example I can think of, but I think it's pretty safe to assume some tengu runs a postal service or something.

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« Reply #932 on: March 31, 2014, 02:22:12 AM »
Not really to sure how to start this but with the title question, but I'm not sure if an artist has done all of the Touhou characters? (including the DDC cast) I'm wondering because I'm working on a project and if I'm to use character portraits I'd like for all of them to be consistent in design. I can only think of a few artists that have done portraits but they haven't done all of them. Any help would be grateful or if there is already a topic about this even. (Not even sure how to word this in the search bar.)

I guess a good example would be the portraits from Labyrinth of Touhou 2, well designed and are consistent but alas they don't have every character so I can't use them.
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« Reply #933 on: March 31, 2014, 05:59:53 AM »
My character relationship chart uses walfas. A fellow redditor and I also expanded on the existing patchcon sprites so that they cover up until the current developments.

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« Reply #934 on: March 31, 2014, 08:34:22 AM »
Well, they're not from the same artist, but the portraits used on TV Tropes are all fairly consistent Alphes style, if that's of any help.

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« Reply #935 on: March 31, 2014, 10:32:45 AM »
Not really to sure how to start this but with the title question, but I'm not sure if an artist has done all of the Touhou characters? (including the DDC cast) I'm wondering because I'm working on a project and if I'm to use character portraits I'd like for all of them to be consistent in design. I can only think of a few artists that have done portraits but they haven't done all of them. Any help would be grateful or if there is already a topic about this even. (Not even sure how to word this in the search bar.)

I guess a good example would be the portraits from Labyrinth of Touhou 2, well designed and are consistent but alas they don't have every character so I can't use them.
Kaoru made a character portrait for every existing character with a name (and a few without). They are downloadable at this site. Another possibility would be dairi, though he probably isn't doing PC-98 characters.

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« Reply #936 on: March 31, 2014, 04:39:54 PM »
I guess a good example would be the portraits from Labyrinth of Touhou 2, well designed and are consistent but alas they don't have every character so I can't use them.
Wow someone needs to continue those sprites. 

Kaoru made a character portrait for every existing character with a name (and a few without). They are downloadable at this site. Another possibility would be dairi, though he probably isn't doing PC-98 characters.
These are really great.

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« Reply #937 on: March 31, 2014, 11:19:50 PM »
Perfect, I feel bad that I didn't notice this thread first but thank you for bringing my question here. (I'll be more careful in the future)

My character relationship chart uses walfas. A fellow redditor and I also expanded on the existing patchcon sprites so that they cover up until the current developments.

The sprites look great, I might find some use for them somewhere. I'm fairly ignorant to walfas but I've seen it around, its a great idea but the design doesn't work with what I plan to do but again I might find some use for it in the future.

Well, they're not from the same artist, but the portraits used on TV Tropes are all fairly consistent Alphes style, if that's of any help.

I've noticed that seems to be the most popular result, I'd figure that's what I'd have to pick anyway lol.

Kaoru made a character portrait for every existing character with a name (and a few without). They are downloadable at this site. Another possibility would be dairi, though he probably isn't doing PC-98 characters.

Figured it would be Alphes style, which isn't bad it's just all I've seen, but thank you so much! I tried to find one of every character before but only got few results but this is all lined up nicely and with different emotions! For Dairi though I'd like to use some of those as well too but is there a way to download those in chunks or one at a time? (New to Pixiv)

Wow someone needs to continue those sprites.
I know right? I love those, hopefully we will in LoT3. (Lol that's not for a long while maybe.)

Thank you everyone who answered my question, didn't think I'd get any results!
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Re: Miscellaneous Questions Thread 4 - Bring us your Questions!
« Reply #938 on: April 01, 2014, 12:24:33 PM »
In ZUN's comments on Imperishable Night's Love Colored Masterspark, he says Marisa has 5 themes. I know Love Colored Magic, Dimensional Dream, Vessel of Stars, and the Seihou one. What's the fifth one? She has Himorogi Burn in Violet and Selene's Light, but if one then why not the other? And if both, that makes 6 themes all together. I thought he might not count the Seihou one, but he considers Reimu and Yuuka's themes so why not Marisa's?
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« Reply #939 on: April 01, 2014, 01:04:11 PM »
Maybe he considers Love Colored Magic and Love Colored Master Spark as two separate songs?

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« Reply #940 on: April 01, 2014, 04:07:35 PM »
According to the wiki, Marisa has 7 themes: "Love Colored Magic", "Love Colored Master Spark" (the first from SoEW, IaMP and HSTS, the latter from IN), "Dim. Dream", "Vessel of Stars", "Ball of Witches", "Oriental Dark FLight" and "Magus Night".

By the time of IN's release, she had "Love Colored Magic", "Dim. Dream", "Vessel of Stars", "Ball of Witches" and "Love Colored Master Spark", which makes for 5 in total.

"Love Colored Master Spark" may just be a remix of "Love Colored Magic", but I suppose ZUN considered that they had enough differences to be considered separate songs.

"Himorogi Burn in Violet" and "Selene's Light" are stage themes. Stage themes are never considered character themes.
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« Reply #941 on: April 01, 2014, 04:33:52 PM »
I think Selene's Light from th04 counts as Marisa's theme.
The music's comment for Selene's Light from th04, and the txt file which was included with Witching Dream from his music_old page indicates that he composed the two Stage 1 themes to be Marisa's and Reimu's themes.
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« Reply #942 on: April 01, 2014, 04:55:22 PM »
Stage themes are never considered character themes.

Meiling, Alice, Patchouli, Sakuya, Youmu and Suwako would like to have a word with you.

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« Reply #943 on: April 01, 2014, 05:10:48 PM »
Maybe he considers Love Colored Magic and Love Colored Master Spark as two separate songs?
I hadn't considered that. The comments make it seem like he treats them as the same, but I might be taking them the wrong way.

"Himorogi Burn in Violet" and "Selene's Light" are stage themes. Stage themes are never considered character themes.
This is what confuses me. You're right, most of the time stage themes aren't considered character themes, but without them she only has 4 themes (if Love Colored Magic/Masterspark are considered the same song).

I think Selene's Light from th04 counts as Marisa's theme.
The music's comment for Selene's Light from th04, and the txt file which was included with Witching Dream from his music_old page indicates that he composed the two Stage 1 themes to be Marisa's and Reimu's themes.
That was my immediate thought but, as Sagus said, stage themes aren't generally character themes. And if he DID mean Selene's Light, what about Himorogi Burn in Violet?
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« Reply #944 on: April 01, 2014, 06:11:12 PM »
Meiling, Alice, Patchouli, Sakuya, Youmu and Suwako would like to have a word with you.
I thought it was Twilight Frontier who chose and remix the songs and not ZUN (except for original characters)?

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« Reply #945 on: April 01, 2014, 08:00:11 PM »
I think Selene's Light from th04 counts as Marisa's theme.
The music's comment for Selene's Light from th04, and the txt file which was included with Witching Dream from his music_old page indicates that he composed the two Stage 1 themes to be Marisa's and Reimu's themes.
Someone should put that info the wiki, if true, although I think he might've meant he originally wrote them as character themes and them changed his mind and decided to use them as stage themes.

I hadn't considered that. The comments make it seem like he treats them as the same, but I might be taking them the wrong way.
This is what confuses me. You're right, most of the time stage themes aren't considered character themes, but without them she only has 4 themes (if Love Colored Magic/Masterspark are considered the same song).
I think it simply makes more sense to say that Love Colored Magic and Love Colored Master Spark aren't considered the same song. Those stage songs aren't even like other stage songs that were later used as remixes for the character's appearence in the fighting games, which can be said to be associated with them.

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Those are remixes made for the side games. The original songs weren't made for them.
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« Reply #946 on: April 01, 2014, 08:18:18 PM »
Someone should put that info the wiki, if true, although I think he might've meant he originally wrote them as character themes and them changed his mind and decided to use them as stage themes.

I think it's already there, in music comments.

Those are remixes made for the side games. The original songs weren't made for them.

Youmu's is used in PoFV as well, so there IS a precedent.

My take is that it's possible that a stage theme can also count as a character's theme. However, that does not mean it applies to each and every stage theme, it's a case-by-case thing. So I'd say Selene's Light counts as Marisa's theme (supported by what Sungho pointed out) and Himorogi doesn't. Oh, and Love Colored Magic and Love Colored Master Spark count as one theme because one is an arrange of the other :P

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« Reply #947 on: April 01, 2014, 08:59:40 PM »
I think it's already there, in music comments.
It's not in her music theme list, though. If it really can be considered that, it should be put there.
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« Reply #948 on: April 01, 2014, 10:39:56 PM »
For Dairi though I'd like to use some of those as well too but is there a way to download those in chunks or one at a time? (New to Pixiv)
You can take this. It's his OneDrive folder, though you still got to do it one by one(you can at least read the names, right?). Do open the 「-素材利用規約-.txt」file to read the usage instruction.
You need his permission, but I already got that covered. Here's the video showcasing them.
Though I like kaoru's more since his looks more "friendly"(I dunno, something about dairi's pics make them look a bit rude, even Byakuren), Dairi got a plus from me for drawing them in full body and an expressive Kokoro.

There's another guy that does all of them too, but I can't remember for now.

Edit: Here's more
Croんte : http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=14542&tag=%E7%AB%8B%E3%81%A1%E7%B5%B5 (My personal favorite, if it's not Alphes style)
Zevid : http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=5774471&tag=%E7%AB%8B%E3%81%A1%E7%B5%B5 (NSFW)
S Syogo : http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=380709 (A little NSFW, since his fetish is "torning clothes")
NOIZ : http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=34519096 (If you're into that kind of thing)
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hungrybookworm

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« Reply #949 on: April 03, 2014, 08:38:49 PM »
Some technical ones from me this time.

Which windows boss uses the most spell cards in their fight? (Including the extra cards you can face in IN, and not including non-cards).

Is there a list anywhere stating how long each invulnerability period lasts for bombs? If not, what is it on average?


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« Reply #950 on: April 03, 2014, 09:39:41 PM »
If it's just about the fight then that would be Kaguya, provided you brought enough time to see all of her Last Spells.
Most spellcards as a whole should be Satori.

Generally all bombs give you about half two 1,5 seconds (unless my estimate is completely off. :V) of invulnerability after their effect wears off.
Exceptions are MarisaC in SA which gives you barely any actual invulnerability and SakuyaB in DDC which has it after triggering the barrier but doesn't if you time it out.
But there is also the shottype thread in HME where it should be listed.

You can also see how long you are invulnerable while bombing by looking for the spellcircle that closes in around you. Looks exactly like the big ones the bosses have.
Should at least be implemented since PCB. Once it completely disappears you can get hit again.
Also your sprite flashes but the spellcircle makes it more visible imo.

Edit: EoSD indeed doesn't have it. But your sprite flashes at least.
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« Reply #951 on: April 03, 2014, 10:26:06 PM »
satori

Really though, most Extra bosses and Kaguya have 10 spell cards, and Mokou and Yukari have 11.

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« Reply #952 on: April 03, 2014, 10:53:10 PM »
Is there a list anywhere stating how long each invulnerability period lasts for bombs?

http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15824.0.html

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« Reply #953 on: April 04, 2014, 11:43:39 AM »
Perfect! Thanks everyone!

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« Reply #954 on: April 04, 2014, 12:18:08 PM »
Are there some other kappas who are into engineering like Nitori or she's left alone with bolts and screws? Also would these hover boards from Sonic Riders kinda fit into Gensokyo? I've just came up with an OC...

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« Reply #955 on: April 04, 2014, 12:34:16 PM »
Are there some other kappas who are into engineering like Nitori or she's left alone with bolts and screws? Also would these hover boards from Sonic Riders kinda fit into Gensokyo? I've just came up with an OC...

Considering the entry for 'Kappa' in PMiSS as translated over at the wiki, and Nitori's entry in SoPM, I think it's safe to say that engineering is a general thing. 

I think there's also been depictions of other kappa doing techy stuff in the background in some of the official manga, but the particular issue/title escapes me at the moment.

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« Reply #956 on: April 04, 2014, 01:52:02 PM »
Thanks, it's enough for me to complete my OC little backstory.

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« Reply #957 on: April 04, 2014, 03:20:03 PM »
All kappa are Nitori, and Nitori is all kappa. Given everything we learn about them throughout the series, all indications are that Nitori is a completely generic kappa who doesn't stand out in any way. When you're imagining kappa society, just imagine that every single one of them is Nitori and it should be close to canon.

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« Reply #958 on: April 04, 2014, 03:24:27 PM »
All kappa are Nitori, and Nitori is all kappa. Given everything we learn about them throughout the series, all indications are that Nitori is a completely generic kappa who doesn't stand out in any way. When you're imagining kappa society, just imagine that every single one of them is Nitori and it should be close to canon.
Now replace 'kappa' with 'magician' and 'Nitori' with 'Marisa'. Now imagine a town full of Marisa's. Now imagine them using Master Spark at the same time in random direction each. You're welcome ;)

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« Reply #959 on: April 04, 2014, 04:19:04 PM »
Now replace 'kappa' with 'magician' and 'Nitori' with 'Marisa'. Now imagine a town full of Marisa's. Now imagine them using Master Spark at the same time in random direction each. You're welcome ;)

That's an interesting image, except it's completely false in terms of Touhou. Alice, Patchouli, and Byakuren are all very different from Marisa and from each other. Nitori's genericness actually annoys me because I think it undermines her character as well as kappa society in general. In other words, my comment about Nitori and kappa wasn't a joke, but rather a complaint. By contrast tengu society is much better developed by having multiple conflicting tengu perspectives, as well as the flavor-text indicating Aya's particular position in their society (Hatate thinks her writing is stupid but her pictures are good).