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« Reply #870 on: February 22, 2014, 03:23:42 AM »
Touhou ghosts are physical, soooo...

Then again, there doesn't seem to be any purely spiritual beings in Touhou. Even spirits have physical forms.

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« Reply #871 on: February 22, 2014, 11:25:23 AM »
I was wondering about the "nature" of magic in Gensokyo, whether it can be considered a "spiritual attack" or merely something connected with the natural world....

Example: Yuyuko is fighting against Reimu, Patchouli and Marisa. A REAL FIGHT, not with danmaku, but with real, lethal attacks.
Reimu launch a barrage of Shinto amulets
Patchouli cast a spell that is cleary elemental, let say Agni Radiance (i guess something like a big blast of fire)
Marisa cast her infamous Master Spark

Against an actual ghost like Yuyuko, i guess the Shinto amulets would be effective, being items imbued with "spiritual" powers, and as such capable of influencing a spirit.
Patchouli attack would be useless, since ghosts simply pass through physical attacks.

But what about Marisa? Since her spell is a purely MAGICAL blast, would it affect Yuyuko or not?
Does MAGIC have a "spiritual" component?
None of this is really the case. Go to the end of last page for discussion on what a spiritual attack is.

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« Reply #872 on: February 23, 2014, 07:20:01 AM »
Are weaker youkai also physically stronger (speed, stamina, agility, etc.) than human in general?

For example could u out run them in speed (feet on ground) in a straight line if they are coming at u in the intent to kill...

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« Reply #873 on: February 23, 2014, 07:34:59 AM »
Youkai are pretty much all physically stronger than humans, yes.

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« Reply #874 on: February 23, 2014, 02:26:35 PM »
Flandre's ability is ability to destroy anything and everything. Or total destruction, depends on translation.
Keine can change history. Or eat it in human form... mmmm tasty

Flandre destroys Remilia's favourite tea cup using her ability...
Can Keine revert the history and save Flan from Remilia's rage?
Or Flandre is doomed and will be locked for another 500 years in her basement?
Find out next time on Touhou Ball Z...

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« Reply #875 on: February 23, 2014, 04:29:00 PM »
Keine doesn't literally change the way things happened in history. She just "hides" parts of it, changing the way people percieve it. Like when she ate the human village's history in IN; the human village was still there (Yukari could see it normally), but to the people that didn't know the full history of the place to know which changes to history she made (everyone else in the game, IIRC), there was nothing there. Notice that no one forgot that there was a village there; they just couldn't see it. I think her powers could be described as creating illusions based on alternate history paths (the village example, it was an illusion showing what would've happened if humans never settled in that place)
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« Reply #876 on: February 25, 2014, 03:00:32 PM »
I've been wondering if Alice were to have a child would it be born human like she was or born as a magician, and if this could explain born magicians like Patchouli.

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« Reply #877 on: February 27, 2014, 11:30:17 AM »
Does magicians in general(Alice, Marisa, Patchouli) possess similar physical abilities as that to human (when they dont use magic to enchant their own capacities) or are they natural stronger/weaker once becoming magician?

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« Reply #878 on: February 27, 2014, 12:17:53 PM »
I've been wondering if Alice were to have a child would it be born human like she was or born as a magician, and if this could explain born magicians like Patchouli.
This is never addressed in canon. But the idea that children born out of turned magicians are natural born magicians is a popular theory, IIRC.

Does magicians in general(Alice, Marisa, Patchouli) possess similar physical abilities as that to human (when they dont use magic to enchant their own capacities) or are they natural stronger/weaker once becoming magician?
PMiSS states that their bodies, in general, are very similar to a human's (so they're at least way more frail than other youkai), and Byakuren is stated as being only as strong as a normal human when not using her body strengthening magic in her SoPM profile.

No word on whether or not they can regenerate extremely quick like other youkai, though.
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« Reply #879 on: February 27, 2014, 11:34:03 PM »
All the others didn't exactly explain it in the context I was looking for or were downright tl;dr.

So, just how popular is Touhou really, both in Japan and OUT of Japan (ESPECIALLY OUT)? I can grasp its huge popularity on the Internet (duh), ZUN expressed genuine shock at the scope of the western fanbase (Japan's prob still bigger), I myself am from Canada (and I became a Touhou nut just from the end of last summer), but students at my high-school's never heard jack about it, and meanwhile I found a huge argument at the LoL forums about people who don't get the Youmuu ghostblade reference just a few months ago, enough for me to kick off this topic. Which is making me question the true popularity. Is it just that people don't talk openly about Touhou once off their computers (I'm referring to outside Japan) unless they're really really dedicated to it, going to all the conventions? Is it just hard to trace for being doujin? On the other hand, mainstream not getting it (case in point: Cirno News Network) is good news as being mainstream's the last thing Touhou needs. Still, for me it's amazing how the internet completely 110'd my opinion on mainstream (I was mostly neutral until I kept digging through the internet).

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P.S. I'm also worried about my own health (you should figure). I just read one of the old editorials from the creator of Ibunshu, and he (probably a he) said he was getting of Touhou, and claimed that life simply goes on. Now I'm worried I will get burned out of Touhou like he did, and I don't want that to happen. Something's wrong in me, I just know it....


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« Reply #880 on: February 28, 2014, 10:43:29 PM »
Who is the tallest touhou character? No power use...

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« Reply #881 on: February 28, 2014, 11:27:00 PM »
Unclear. The only height comparisons we have are a really old comment by ZUN putting a few characters into broad categories (iirc the tallest category had Sakuya and Yukari), and the sprites from the fighting games, which are subject to "artistic interpretation" as well as little things like posture, perspective, and floating. I believe Utsuho has the tallest sprite though.

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« Reply #882 on: March 01, 2014, 03:39:30 AM »
Do you know where to find those comments still Clarste? I'd be interested in reading them.

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« Reply #883 on: March 01, 2014, 03:42:00 AM »
(If you want to talk about fanart and such) There's no official specific "height chart", so the heights of the Touhous are mostly headcanon and fan depiction (and there's ZUN's comment, as the person above me mentioned), so it varies depending on who's drawing them. Characters often depicted in fanwork as being tall (from what I've noticed while randomly browsing Danbooru) include Meiling, Yukari, Ran, Eirin, Yuuka, Yuugi, Utsuho, and Byakuren. Really, though, it depends on the artist (like most things in Touhou to be honest. Touhou has some of the most varied fan interpretations I've seen).

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« Reply #884 on: March 01, 2014, 04:05:51 AM »
Do you know where to find those comments still Clarste? I'd be interested in reading them.

http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/ZUN%27s_E-mails

Quote
> ? About how tall is everyone?
> Even a rough idea, like order of height, would be fine.
> I personally wonder about how small the young girls, Cirno, Rumia and the fairies are.
> About 120?130 cm?

I might officially announce an order of height if there's a demand (since I set up a height comparison chart in
the production materials).

However, backing up a bit...generally speaking, they're about as tall as girls in their early teens ['10代前半' means 10 to 14 years old].  A
suitable breakdown would be something like:
Tall: Sakuya, Meiling, Yukari
Fairly Tall: Reimu, Yuyuko, Alice, Letty, Ran
Fairly Short: Marisa, Youmu, Patchouli, Lunasa, Merlin
Short: Remilia, Lyrica, Chen, Cirno, Rumia, Flandre
Basically, if we consider the top level as the height of a human in her late teens or older ['10代後半以降' means 15 years old or above] and the bottom
level as the height of a human in her early teens ['10代前半' ], that puts them in a fairly short class (though none of that
level are human).  If their sizes appear to be different on the game screen than given above, it's because of
some mystic force like perspective, so pay it no mind. :-)

Hmm... I wonder if he still sets up height comparison charts in later game production materials.

Sakuya, Meiling, and Yukari and the entire shortest category are easy to picture, but it's so hard for me to think of Yuyuko being shorter than Yukari or Alice and Reimu being taller than Marisa for some reason. I should pay attention to how many fanvids get the height differences like that right.
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« Reply #885 on: March 01, 2014, 05:00:33 AM »
Thanks Tiamat.

I'm quite surprised Marisa falls into a separate category than Reimu to be honest.

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« Reply #886 on: March 01, 2014, 05:05:12 AM »
Marisa's real short. She's one of those... energetic short person archetypes.

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« Reply #887 on: March 01, 2014, 12:25:55 PM »
Which are the characters of Touhou that DOESN'T know how to fly?


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« Reply #888 on: March 01, 2014, 12:30:57 PM »
Which are the characters of Touhou that DOESN'T know how to fly?

Game wise, Rika (at least she never is shown being outside her creations) and Rikako (uses a jetpack)

Print works wise, at least Maribel, Renko, Akyuu, Rinnosuke and Kosuzu. Flying isn't that common thing in the print works, so its hard to really say.
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« Reply #889 on: March 01, 2014, 07:08:55 PM »
Was it explicitly confirmed that Rinnosuke, Akyuu, and Kosuzu couldn't fly?  Although IIRC, the few times we've seen them travel, they walked, so it's probably true (although I think in the print works, most other characters who can fly usually walk as well when it comes to every-day travelling)

Akyuu mentions that everyone can fly in PMiSS, in a comforting tone meant to tell even the average joe that it's no big deal, although that's still not very confirming of anything.

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« Reply #890 on: March 01, 2014, 07:20:58 PM »
There was a little scene in FS where they were flying around and Kosuzu was riding behind Marisa on her broom. Which sort of implies that she wouldn't be able to on her own, or at least not as fast.

In general, I think the lack of flying in the manga kind of implies that it's more troublesome than walking and reserved for special occasions. Probably tiring or something. The actual explanation is probably that it's just easier for the artists to picture the scene when people aren't randomly floating for no reason.
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« Reply #891 on: March 01, 2014, 10:48:28 PM »
Are most knifes that Sakuya use danmaku or are they real knifes???

Also does danmaku also affect in general the surroundings? I mean what happen if a random danmaku collide with... let say a rock or a human?

I also wanted to have an opinion of the translation where Akyuu call Yukari "sage" in Touhou Gumonshiki ~ Memorizable Gensokyo. Did she really say "sage" of youkai on that page?
- http://www.batoto.net/read/_/70820/touhou-gumonshiki-memorizable-gensokyo_v01_by_gaku-gaku-animal-land/8
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« Reply #892 on: March 01, 2014, 11:32:37 PM »
It's made clear in GoM and StB/DS that danmaku can be anything you want; the whole purpose is to have that thing hit the opponent, so what it actually is doesn't matter. Hence you get things like the Minoriko sisters literally throwing sweet potatoes and leaves and rice at you, Komachi and Nazrin throwing actual coins, etc. The physics of danmaku, however, is generally ignored, or at least shoved aside. It can cause some damage like scratches and torn clothing, but it is clearly nonlethal and probably doesn't do much physical damage. Or, it's possible that the combatants are protected magically somehow and the danmaku can affect the surroundings, but this is total speculation, as any spell card duels shown in manga and whatnot don't really do anything.

Sakuya's knives are actual knives, as implied by her using silver knives in particular, mentioned in at least PMiSS and the IN manual. She's also been hinted at to have to throw her knives then go pick them up, which is also sort-of-supported by GoM.


Memorizable Gensokyo: Yes, the term used (妖怪の賢者) is the same "sage" as is used the few times in PMiSS and the once in SA. It's done very explicitly to show that Yukari does indeed edit the Gensokyo Chronicles, and that when you hear "sage", it does mean at least Yukari.
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« Reply #893 on: March 02, 2014, 02:19:20 PM »
Thanks for those clarification. Now if I may ask did Zun provide any additional info about Tenma?
Also has it been clarified if whether Tenma is a male or a female? In most fanart I've seen he/she is represent by a female character but I also heard some people say he is male...
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« Reply #894 on: March 02, 2014, 04:29:13 PM »
Nope, no details whatsoever.

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« Reply #895 on: March 02, 2014, 09:15:39 PM »
Who in Gensokyo know that Eirin and Kaguya are Lunarian? I mean knew about Yukari and Reimu but from what I heard it seems Aya and Patchouli also knows more or less about thier identity...?

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« Reply #896 on: March 02, 2014, 10:12:25 PM »
Everyone knows. okay my mistake
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« Reply #897 on: March 02, 2014, 10:20:19 PM »
I think only those who were playabel in Imperishable Night as well as their close relations know.  I included all the citations I could find on the subject a long time ago here:

http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Eientei

Aya refers to Kaguya as the Princess of the Moon or something in a single panel with a newspaper article in Inaba of the Moon and Earth, but that comic's finer details probably can't really be trusted to be canon, I think.  In BAiJR, Aya's mostly confused on the issue and doesn't know if it's real or not.  "Let's leave that topic aside, why do you have so many things that relate to the moon?"
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« Reply #898 on: March 02, 2014, 10:29:27 PM »
Tys that what I was looking for.

Where did the Watatsuki no Toyohime wiki "back-story" come from?
I don't recall ever reading that in the manga..."Long ago, Toyohime's master, Eirin Yagokoro, explained to Toyohime why spiriting away happened. Everything is decided on probability, and thus possible events will always happen. This is even how the Lunarians came to the Moon in the first place. Toyohime instantly understood her master's lesson, and from then on, was one of the few people who could connect the Moon and the Earth."
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« Reply #899 on: March 03, 2014, 08:11:37 PM »
Cage in Lunatic Runagate. If you've read Silent Sinner in Blue without reading CiLR you're missing half the story.