Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F

[ViciousYukkuri]

I thought about kogada too (even though i like her) since after floor 1 she seems to rarely eo much more than average nukes. But then i thought that after leveling, and after i get enough skill points, sense fear and arm stwisting combined will make her a terrifying machine, not to mention good for shocking too.

You should wait to dump Kogasa until after you fight

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Mokou

. Kogasa does a great job of tearing her up (at least, for me she did) with Sense Fear, Troubled Forgotten Item, and her third spell.

Parsee works well with Kogasa, too. Kogasa fears, and Parsee nails them with Jealous of the Kind and Lovely. JotKaL does have a chance to remove fear, but it's really low. Parsee can also fear to trigger Kogasa's TFI.

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Who thought it would be a good idea to dig holes in floor 14?! Seriously, now.

[Kuilfrayt]

*Some names and effects I'm not sure about:
 気質を見極める程度の能力 (ability to determine the temperature?), the effect is increasing WND damage for all characters.

Ability to identify one's spirit (This is Tenshi's ability. Seriously though, if you see something 程度の能力, just go check the abilities page in touhouwiki and 99% of the time you'll find it there.)

Tbh, since it was a WND thing, the last person I thought about was Tenshi XD

"PSN's effect of lowering all stats slightly will also be nullified."

I did not know PSN could lower your stats O.o

And done, here is all the character's skills. Some may have to be changed depending if I got their effects right or not. (hopefully it's all good)
http://www.mediafire.com/?m68m886gdj9ys66

Next upload will be the character's spells

[CloverNaght]

Bleh, so i just got to floor 4 and im having a hard time figuring out which characters i wanna dump or use. Everyone in my party feels too good to dump to make space for someone else.
Anyway I decided to dump keine cuz her nukes are nearly useless agains bosses, and just meh for trash. Her buffs are pretty mediocre too.

I thought about kogada too (even though i like her) since after floor 1 she seems to rarely eo much more than average nukes. But then i thought that after leveling, and after i get enough skill points, sense fear and arm stwisting combined will make her a terrifying machine, not to mention good for shocking too.

Im going to refrain from using parsee because she looks like she is best off being used with hina. I actually wanna try hina but ill wait for a future playthru since im having so much trouble figuring out which characters to use. They all seem so good so far *cries*.

Looks like no kasen though. So far ive only had one gameover. From youmu, her wind nuke oneshot everyone but momiji even though reimu def buffs were up. She still seems almost as luck based a fight as the first game if you go for level bonus thing (first game you are basically hooped if she poisons your whole party on turn 1 or 2).

Keine is good only for buffing until you got

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Ran

. Try max her atk buff skill also

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Who thought it would be a good idea to dig holes in floor 14?! Seriously, now.

Damn you don't remind me of that one :<

[MysTeariousYukari]

Damn you don't remind me of that one :<

Never attempt floors

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13

through

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15

unless you can think clearly. I wasted a good hour and a half after midnight trying to figure that stuff out and failing... but blazed through it the next day, once I had gotten some sleep XD

[ViciousYukkuri]

Never attempt floors

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13

through

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15

unless you can think clearly. I wasted a good hour and a half after midnight trying to figure that stuff out and failing... but blazed through it the next day, once I had gotten some sleep XD

This.

I also keep getting side tracked listening to the music, and losing my thought. It's just so good. I hope the next floor set's music's at least half as good.

I can't tell whose a better tank, Komachi with her regeneration and stupid awesome amounts of HP, or

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Mokou with her regeneration and maxed out Resurrection with boosted TP. Her defense, mind, and HP aren't bad either

. Probably would have gotten my face wiped by

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Yuyuko

if it wasn't for them. And Youmu who I totally haven't over-powered with money because waifu privileges. Nope.

[Fishin]

My first stone of awakening went to Komachi just for this. Her crappy defense stat means nothing when you can bulk her HP up to ridiculous levels and outregen even bosses if they don't oneshot her.

I had the same thought earlier, though I think I'll do Healer instead of Monk since First Aid should heal the same amount when maxed and I'd rather have some extra healing than whatever Monk gives Komachi.

概念属性, need a good translation. Concept/Abstract Attribute just doesn't fit (it affects MYS, SPI, DRK and PHYS). It's counterpart is 元素属性, Elemental Attributes (FIR, CLD, WND and NTR)

Ethereal Attributes? (going more on the ability itself than the name here).

Keine is good only for buffing until you got

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Ran

. Try max her atk buff skill also

Endgame I'd say it's fairly cleanly Ran's win but when she joins she'll have lots of MP and Skill Point limitations, so Keine will have a lot more skill points to invest in her buffs/Enhancer passives/whatever so she'll buff more (her buffs do gain 1% more per level than Ran's, for what it's worth) and can buff more often since she won't run out of MP after 2 casts.  Her delays are lower too.

[CloverNaght]

This.

I also keep getting side tracked listening to the music, and losing my thought. It's just so good. I hope the next floor set's music's at least half as good.

I can't tell whose a better tank, Komachi with her regeneration and stupid awesome amounts of HP, or

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Mokou with her regeneration and maxed out Resurrection with boosted TP. Her defense, mind, and HP aren't bad either

. Probably would have gotten my face wiped by

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Yuyuko

if it wasn't for them. And Youmu who I totally haven't over-powered with money because waifu privileges. Nope.

i'd say Komachi with counter+ability to debuff enemies. But both are viable as tanks. What

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Mokou

excels over Komachi are reincarnation, debuff and heavy resist

[homing curvy laser]

Well screw you and your RNG fight too, Yuugi. You're supposed to be an oni, slow and really strong, not someone who dodges at least 1/3 of all attacks and moves twice before anyone can think.

By the way, do you get your subclass stone back if you reset someone or are you stuck with that subclass? Also kind of a silly question, but you don't need to save twelve stones to get the infinite subclass stone, do you?

[CloverNaght]

Well screw you and your RNG fight too, Yuugi. You're supposed to be an oni, slow and really strong, not someone who dodges at least 1/3 of all attacks and moves twice before anyone can think.

By the way, do you get your subclass stone back if you reset someone or are you stuck with that subclass? Also kind of a silly question, but you don't need to save twelve stones to get the infinite subclass stone, do you?

You get the stone back, so you don't really screwed that bad if you accidently used warrior subclass on Marisa.

[ViciousYukkuri]

Well screw you and your RNG fight too, Yuugi. You're supposed to be an oni, slow and really strong, not someone who dodges at least 1/3 of all attacks and moves twice before anyone can think.

By the way, do you get your subclass stone back if you reset someone or are you stuck with that subclass? Also kind of a silly question, but you don't need to save twelve stones to get the infinite subclass stone, do you?

There's a infinite subclass stone? 

But with Yuugi, if you have either a evade tank like

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Aya

or you

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resurrection tank with Mokou if you picked her

the battle's a lot easier. Wriggle helps a bunch, too (if I remember right, Yuugi can be poisoned, but I'm not 100% sure about this one); never underestimate poison damage.

Funny story with this battle, she killed me about 2 or 3 times, but on the third or fourth time,

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Mokou

decided she was The One, and only got hit with one Knockout in Three Steps, and dodged the rest as I slowly ground Yuugi down with Youmu and Nitori.

And on the subject of Subclasses, how do you get new ones? I noticed I got Tactician or Strategist or whatever it's called at some point, and I'm not sure when or where.

[CloverNaght]

And on the subject of Subclasses, how do you get new ones? I noticed I got Tactician or Strategist or whatever it's called at some point, and I'm not sure when or where.

I dunno its just....there. First time ever heard about subclasses i only had 10 (Strategist not in there for some reason), After beated the game suddenly become 14

[ViciousYukkuri]

This sonofabitch scared the crap out of me. Didn't notice him until he was there. Made me jump; half my party's gone. Granted there's no penalty for game overs, but its the general idea...

E: Somehow killed it as is. Big Dragon thing. Yuugi counters for 12k damage OP.

[Minako The Maid]

Well personally I found

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rooms F16 to F18 far more annoying than the temperature ones, that puzzle was easymode compared to some in THL1, and holes just helped to get to switchers easier which made getting treasures easier...

.
Either way, aren't subclasses gotten from certain achievements?

E: 12k? Maybe I shouldve given Yuugi a chance, as much as I dislike that.. horn of hers.. or whatever it is...

[RegalStar]

Kuil, your translations have a lot of "he" and "his" in them, in a game where only one character is male.

[ViciousYukkuri]

E: 12k? Maybe I shouldve given Yuugi a chance, as much as I dislike that.. horn of hers.. or whatever it is...

Yeah, I highly recommend her on your second play-through. Her horn bothers me, too, but between her stupid high attack power (For me, she has more ATK then Youmu. Yuugi's Lvl 60 in ATK, Youmu's Lvl 140 in ATK, both have similar gear), Catastrophic Guardian God (raises physical damage output for everyone), her counter, Hoshiguma Dish (more enemies=more speed, less enemies=more attack) and Vajra Spiral (lower HP=higher attack), she can do unreasonable amounts of damage. Not Master Spark levels, but I don't think it would be a stretch to say she has the highest physical damage output in the game (Granted, I don't have Suika and I'm not counting Nitori's Super Scope 3D). She's reasonable bulky to boot. Slow as balls, though. But that's easily fixed now that raising an off stat doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

[Anima Zero]

Got started on LoT2 yesterday.  Currently exploring 3F.

My only real party wipe so far (Not counting the 12 I did intentionally at the start of the game)...the 3F F.O.E I needed to take out to get to

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Chen

.  All it took though was boosting a couple character's skills and I was able to squeak past the critter on my 2nd attempt.

Couple questions here...

1.  Tomes of Reincarnation...I have two of these and I'm wondering what they do exactly.  I didn't want to use one before I knew 100% what they were good for.

2.  Any way to get the skill points you spend on a character's skills back?  I ended up pouring some points into several character's spells (Namely Keine's attack buff spellcard) to be able to handle that 3F F.O.E.  Just curious if there's a way to get them back or not for future reference.

[qazmlpok]

Kuil, your translations have a lot of "he" and "his" in them, in a game where only one character is male.

Do keep in mind that the opposite is still bad. The level up screen in LoT1 referred to Rinnosuke as "Lady", after all.

I suppose it isn't as much of an issue with the character skills though, since only a specific set of them can belong to Rinnosuke. Everything else can use "her". I'll try and clean it up.

Finally, kuilfrayt. Please save your files as ANSI encoding! UTF-8 does not work in this game, and saving as ANSI will prevent you from using those special characters that won't display in-game anyway. You can't call it "Gensōkyō", for example. Please just use "Gensokyo". "?" is also an issue, you need to use a regular "-"

[The Krve]

qaz, there's a minor problem with the dxa extractor.
Mainly the BGM that you provided (along with BGM I've extracted myself) has A LOT of static noises.
I'm using VLC media player. Not sure what causes it though

[qazmlpok]

qaz, there's a minor problem with the dxa extractor.
Mainly the BGM that you provided (along with BGM I've extracted myself) has A LOT of static noises.
I'm using VLC media player. Not sure what causes it though

I blame it all on VLC.

But yeah, you're not going to get static noise introduced by that tool. It wouldn't corrupt the data that way - you'd most likely end up with a file that doesn't play at all. VLC, on the other hand...

[Xarizzar]

Let me guess... You use VLC with 200% sound? That's the problem. That causes problems for many things. Try to set it to 100%.

[Kuilfrayt]

Kuil, your translations have a lot of "he" and "his" in them, in a game where only one character is male.

I used he and his because I'm using skill holder and not names, so the masculine is more generalized.

Finally, kuilfrayt. Please save your files as ANSI encoding! UTF-8 does not work in this game, and saving as ANSI will prevent you from using those special characters that won't display in-game anyway. You can't call it "Gensōkyō", for example. Please just use "Gensokyo". "?" is also an issue, you need to use a regular "-"

Alright, sorry, when I was saving stuff with ANSI, i was getting errors if I still had japanese encoding in it. I'll keep that in mind for next time. What I can do is just make the corrections for everything and then just send it back to you once I'm also done with the character's spells.

For skills that are unique to a character, do you want me to keep using skill holder or use the character's name instead?

[qazmlpok]

I used he and his because I'm using skill holder and not names, so the masculine is more generalized.
Alright, sorry, when I was saving stuff with ANSI, i was getting errors if I still had japanese encoding in it. I'll keep that in mind for next time. What I can do is just make the corrections for everything and then just send it back to you once I'm also done with the character's spells.

For skills that are unique to a character, do you want me to keep using skill holder or use the character's name instead?

Well, I have been fixing the files you've sent me. So there's no need for you to handle that, if that's what you meant.

Regarding unique skills, I assume that they still say "skill holder" in Japanese. If so, keep it as "skill holder".

[Kuilfrayt]

Alright, I'll make sure that the spells I send next will be done correctly. Also, something I didn't change

007D989C: Etheral Attributes Protection
instead of Concept Attributes Protection

007D9D98: Etheral Attributes Enhancement
instead of Concept Attributes Enhancement

On spells, I've kept the special bracket they had 『』 (same for the subclass spells 「」), is this alright to keep, or do I just use normal brackets []?

[qazmlpok]

Japanese quotes are fine if you prefer them over English ones.

I don't think Ethereal really works as an opposite to "elemental". Especially not when it includes "Physical"

1a : of or relating to the regions beyond the earth
2a : lacking material substance

[Kuilfrayt]

Alright, let's just keep it as it is then until I find a better term for it.

[ViciousYukkuri]

Got started on LoT2 yesterday.  Currently exploring 3F.

My only real party wipe so far (Not counting the 12 I did intentionally at the start of the game)...the 3F F.O.E I needed to take out to get to

Spoiler:

Chen

.  All it took though was boosting a couple character's skills and I was able to squeak past the critter on my 2nd attempt.

Couple questions here...

1.  Tomes of Reincarnation...I have two of these and I'm wondering what they do exactly.  I didn't want to use one before I knew 100% what they were good for.

2.  Any way to get the skill points you spend on a character's skills back?  I ended up pouring some points into several character's spells (Namely Keine's attack buff spellcard) to be able to handle that 3F F.O.E.  Just curious if there's a way to get them back or not for future reference.

A Tome of Reincarnation, if it's what I think it is, lets you get your reset a character's stats and get your money back. To use it, go to the Magic Library, and hit Reset Character. After the reset, it will ask if you want to use a Tome of Reincarnation. Resetting a character puts the character back to Lvl. 1, but you get their skill points back, resets their level bonus and they don't lose the EXP, so you can just level them back up to where they were. It's  a very useful feature for testing out skills. Think hard before you use the tomes, though. I'm on floor 15, used mine without knowing what I was doing (moonrunes) and I would kill to get a third.

[Kuilfrayt]

A Tome of Reincarnation, if it's what I think it is, lets you get your reset a character's stats and get your money back. To use it, go to the Magic Library, and hit Reset Character. After the reset, it will ask if you want to use a Tome of Reincarnation. Resetting a character puts the character back to Lvl. 1, but you get their skill points back, resets their level bonus and they don't lose the EXP, so you can just level them back up to where they were. It's  a very useful feature for testing out skills. Think hard before you use the tomes, though. I'm on floor 15, used mine without knowing what I was doing (moonrunes) and I would kill to get a third.

It will reset a character's parameters points you put in the Magic Library, as well as removing any stat growth gems, training manuals and Skill Boost manuals you used on the character. It does not reset the character's level. Simply resetting a character without using the Tome of Reincarnation will remove your level up bonuses and skill points spent, nothing else, but it is free. Lowering your level is done at the Hakurei Shrine (this can be used to face bosses below the challenge level if you are overleveled)

[Sahgren]

Ok... what's with the

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Yuyuko fight? First turn she smacked everyone on my team for 2k+ damage.

Edit: Nevermind, apparently Suika murders her.

[ViciousYukkuri]

Holy crap at some point I got 60 achievements. I should start using

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SDM

crew to build up the BP they need for

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Flandre

; I'm pretty sure I have enough with Marisa. I'll probably get the BP I need wandering around on this floor because I keep losing my place. Seriously, I should have finished this temperature stuff yesterday. If they still don't have enough after, I'll get it while I grind for the last 70k I need to get

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Suika. God damn she better be worth this.

 

[Xarizzar]

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Suika? You're damn right she's worth it... And if you buff her ATK 100% she's a murderer for most bosses...