Author Topic: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F  (Read 272778 times)

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #600 on: August 18, 2013, 02:34:18 AM »
Hmmm...
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Then how do you clear/fight the boss event that appears after you meet Flan on the 12th floor?
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There are two bosses you must defeat before you fight the final boss on that floor. One is in the bottom western half of the map and other is in the bottom eastern half of the map. Both bosses have the appearance of a golden artifact. After the defeat of those two, you should be able to proceed down the middle of the map.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #601 on: August 18, 2013, 02:51:59 AM »
Generic menu stuff here: http://puu.sh/44rxw.xlsx

Some double checking and editing may be required,  as I don't have the full version. Also there's one partial sentence line that doesn't fit with anything else in context, so I have no idea what it's supposed to link to either.

Kuil, based on qaz's "get the menu done first" philosophy, I think the next thing to work on would be spell, skill and item descriptions (or at least the informative parts anyways. Reference text can wait until atwiki put up its reference page). I'm not sure how much you have already worked on, so I would appreciate seeing your progress so far, and if you have time to work on this as well, we could see how the work can be split.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #602 on: August 18, 2013, 03:24:56 AM »
Most of the stuff for spells and skills is translated already because I had to do it to put it on the wiki. What would be missing is all the item description, since it's really all flavor text and I didn't bother to do it at first. Same for achievements, names, conditions and rewards are done, there's just some flavor text missing on about half of them. I'll send you the items to start with, I'll do spells and skills and then I'll start integrating everything in a single text file for qaz. Also qaz, can you post the text dump for the new patch, I'll try to see if there's much stuff changes between both version. Regal, I'll post you the stuff tomorrow (for me) when I can actually work on it.

From the translation you gave me also, there seems to be 6 additionnal subclass, so I'll do the last 3 once I get them.
We'll probably need a better name for Abilities Enhanced, 能力増強, if anyone has any suggestions
« Last Edit: August 18, 2013, 03:33:56 AM by kuilfrayt »
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #603 on: August 18, 2013, 04:28:09 AM »
Sorry but is there a guide on how to use that melonbooks dl site?
I try pushing the orange "add to cart" button but my cart still says 0. what gives? Do I have to register first? Normally you can register as you pay. But I don't want to register and find out that wasn't the problem =P.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #604 on: August 18, 2013, 04:58:43 AM »
We'll probably need a better name for Abilities Enhanced, 能力増強, if anyone has any suggestions

A few notes to add on this one: All this subclass has are passive skills that enhance the user's own performance (add to stats, damage taken, and reduce damage received). Basically if you let someone take this subclass, all you're going to get is an improved version of that character. I think it's fine to be a little liberal with this one since I really can't think of any good ways to make a meaningful class name out of the words abilities and strengthened/enhanced, which is why I worded it that way, since it will at least look meaningful to see a character with "Abilities Enhanced" in her status page.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #605 on: August 18, 2013, 05:37:15 AM »
Sorry but is there a guide on how to use that melonbooks dl site?
I try pushing the orange "add to cart" button but my cart still says 0. what gives? Do I have to register first? Normally you can register as you pay. But I don't want to register and find out that wasn't the problem =P.

I'm not certain what to tell you. I just tried it out and the orange button updated my cart with LoT2 instantly.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #606 on: August 18, 2013, 05:47:02 AM »
Spoiler:
There are two bosses you must defeat before you fight the final boss on that floor. One is in the bottom western half of the map and other is in the bottom eastern half of the map. Both bosses have the appearance of a golden artifact. After the defeat of those two, you should be able to proceed down the middle of the map.
I know that already. What I meant is
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there is a Flandre event on 12th floor. After I clear that a boss icon appears behind the 60 achivements rock. I got pass the rock but am lacking something to trigger the boss fight (like Meilingʹs)

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #607 on: August 18, 2013, 07:45:46 AM »
So, been having lots of fun with Labyrinth Filled up on Touhous, 2nd act. I'm not too far in, only halfway through 8F. My fight against
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Alice was somewhat strange: I was perhaps a little overleveled, but I was still surprised at how quickly she was dying. I was expecting a twist, but none came, leading to a completely headless, first-try victory. I later looked at the strategy in the wiki and noticed what went wrong: Alice didn't summon a single vine, just dolls. I did wipe out a lot of them, too, so she had about 10 chances to summon something that would have been problematic to me, but decided not to. Isn't it sad, Alice?

Something that is a lot less positive is that I think Hina as a character is severely bugged. I'm probably the only one who didn't immediately ditch her  :V, but yeah, Misfortune Reversal, the skill that the whole concept of her character would revolve around doesn't seem to apply for the most part. I've done a few tests and the way I see it, only SPD seems to be positively affected. A fully debuffed Hina was noticably faster than a fully debuffed Nazrin, who would usually outpace her easily. As for MAG, DEF and MND, a debuffed Hina does in fact seem to be handled like any other debuffed character.

Maybe someone else could analyze this, so that it's not simply me being insane?

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #608 on: August 18, 2013, 08:19:58 AM »
The boss that summons vines is the one that guards
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Meiling, though I never saw what the vines did because I beat that one on the first try and always killed the vines before they acted.  I had a fair amount of difficulty with Alice, she goes down pretty quickly but being unable to predict whether she'll summon dolls or attack leaves you at an impasse as to which characters to leave in since even Tripwire was one-shotting my squishies and her dolls hit really hard if you let them get a turn.  Or maybe I was just underleveled.


Incidentally, who would you say is the most improved from Labyrinth 1 so far?

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Earlier I was thinking Aya, but now it seems like Eirin might take the cake; People of the Moon means her offense is actually worthwhile now (not enough to use her as a primary attacker, but great in random battles and for chip damage on a boss), Hourai Elixir now heals a huge amount on top of curing all status effects and not having a massive delay, and on top of that with Healing Limit Breaker you can overheal a character for a ridiculous amount and give them Komachi-level HP, as long as they can survive at least one initial hit.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #609 on: August 18, 2013, 08:33:08 AM »
The boss that summons vines is the one that guards
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Meiling, though I never saw what the vines did because I beat that one on the first try and always killed the vines before they acted.  I had a fair amount of difficulty with Alice, she goes down pretty quickly but being unable to predict whether she'll summon dolls or attack leaves you at an impasse as to which characters to leave in since even Tripwire was one-shotting my squishies and her dolls hit really hard if you let them get a turn.  Or maybe I was just underleveled.


Incidentally, who would you say is the most improved from Labyrinth 1 so far?

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Earlier I was thinking Aya, but now it seems like Eirin might take the cake; People of the Moon means her offense is actually worthwhile now (not enough to use her as a primary attacker, but great in random battles and for chip damage on a boss), Hourai Elixir now heals a huge amount on top of curing all status effects and not having a massive delay, and on top of that with Healing Limit Breaker you can overheal a character for a ridiculous amount and give them Komachi-level HP, as long as they can survive at least one initial hit.
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call me insane (and due to lack of damage formula detail on wiki so i don't really sure also didn't test all the characters)
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for me its nitori  mystia and komachi so far (currently 19F) nito misty are rly good sweeper, give nitori your best item + maintenance ability and the rape train never stops unless the enemy resist all her moves). Komachi is just ridiculous with her counter early-mid game and master race tank due to new physical resistance
« Last Edit: August 18, 2013, 08:36:45 AM by AkurouNyan~ »
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #610 on: August 18, 2013, 09:02:04 AM »
Mokou's resurrection ability description needs to be corrected. It costs 6 TP and chance is Slvl*30. This may have been a nerf in the updates.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #611 on: August 18, 2013, 09:05:22 AM »
I'm not certain what to tell you. I just tried it out and the orange button updated my cart with LoT2 instantly.

not for me, but thanks anyway.

I discovered it works half-fine if I don't try to google translate the page. The cart still stays at 0, but if I click the cart, then thlaby2 appears under "Recently viewed pages", then I can check that as an order (doesn'tw ork when google translate).

Alas making an account involves telling them my last and first name both in katakana (first ok, last how), AND chinese? argh...
Not asking for help at this point, just venting =P, thanks again.

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #612 on: August 18, 2013, 09:56:10 AM »
There are probably a lot of little inaccuracies that popped up due to patches, I've been fixing them as I see them.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #613 on: August 18, 2013, 10:02:49 AM »
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Just how many BPs does it take for all of the bushes' events?
God, I'm losing my goddamn mind. I've been only pressing M and Z for the last 2 hours on F1.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #614 on: August 18, 2013, 10:51:23 AM »
If I know who needs the BP, I can try to make a Cheat Table for you to use the Cheat Engine to skip all that... But if you were doing so for 2 whole hours, it seems that you're missing something.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #615 on: August 18, 2013, 11:09:09 AM »
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Well, not exactly 2 hours. Half of those time were spent navigating through 13F and 14F. AFAIK, Cirno is needed for 13F and Nazrin+Nitori for 14F. Those were the only one left.
If you know the BPs required for the boss behind the 60 achivements rock on 12F (the one that appears after you meet Flan) , let me know too.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #616 on: August 18, 2013, 11:32:35 AM »
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Well I haven't reached 12F yet, but now that I've gotten the OP Suika, things will be easier and faster. When I reach there I'll share what I know. But I've been using Minoriko for a while now, I hope I have the BPs for her. Who have you been using?

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #617 on: August 18, 2013, 11:56:47 AM »
Yes, there is a guide for buying from melonbooks.

http://ibm5100.net/steinswiki/2011/10/09/steinsgate-for-pc-now-downloadable-online-at-melonbooks-dl-step-by-step-purchase-guide/#more-649

Did you try signing up with your pixiv account? I don't remember needing to put in any kanji.



And here's the 1.120 string dump, completely unfiltered again.
http://www.mediafire.com/?ku9wl7f4axopny4

Krve, could you send me the PSDs or whatever else for the images you edited?
« Last Edit: August 18, 2013, 12:23:37 PM by qazmlpok »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #618 on: August 18, 2013, 12:29:52 PM »
Now that you mentioned it, I like well rounded bruisers (Remilia,Suika, Kasen,...) because Miracle Fruit can turn them into undying killing machines.
You can always buff a glass cannon but they still get melted once they are breathed on.
Special mention will be Aya - the undisputed GOD of floor trash clearing.
Seriously ? Guarantee first strike with Extra Steps ? Holy cow  : :getdown: :getdown: :getdown:, especially when normal attacks are worth using now.
She has SOME utility in boss fights as well, like giving Reimu first turn to harden to frontline, unlike Rin.

 

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #619 on: August 18, 2013, 12:36:53 PM »
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Yup. Aya is very helpful. Helped me buff Suika in the Tenshi fight. That made the fight very easy. And then she powered up and kicked my ass even though I had Byakuren and Shikieiki. Seriously? ZUN mentioned Shikieiki is most probably the strongest in Gensokyo. Never knew Tenshi could be that tough. But then again, this is a fan-game, and I haven't really payed that much attention to the story due to my inability to read Japanese well.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #620 on: August 18, 2013, 12:40:04 PM »
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Yup. Aya is very helpful. Helped me buff Suika in the Tenshi fight. That made the fight very easy. And then she powered up and kicked my ass even though I had Byakuren and Shikieiki. Seriously? ZUN mentioned Shikieiki is most probably the strongest in Gensokyo. Never knew Tenshi could be that tough. But then again, this is a fan-game, and I haven't really payed that much attention to the story due to my inability to read Japanese well.

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Hint: It's that golden sword of her's that's making her this powerful.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #621 on: August 18, 2013, 12:40:40 PM »
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Yup. Aya is very helpful. Helped me buff Suika in the Tenshi fight. That made the fight very easy. And then she powered up and kicked my ass even though I had Byakuren and Shikieiki. Seriously? ZUN mentioned Shikieiki is most probably the strongest in Gensokyo. Never knew Tenshi could be that tough. But then again, this is a fan-game, and I haven't really payed that much attention to the story due to my inability to read Japanese well.
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notice the second sword Tenshi uses? Seems it possess Tenshi and gave her some serious steroid...
EDIT: damn ninja'ed 3 seconds
« Last Edit: August 18, 2013, 12:54:24 PM by AkurouNyan~ »
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #622 on: August 18, 2013, 01:07:17 PM »
If I know who needs the BP, I can try to make a Cheat Table for you to use the Cheat Engine to skip all that... But if you were doing so for 2 whole hours, it seems that you're missing something.

Have you found the address for encounter rate? I've tried locating it via float type first and then searching via all types and nothing comes up.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #623 on: August 18, 2013, 01:17:09 PM »
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Okay, this is bullshit. There's no way Cirno is involved in the 13F bush event.I use Nazrin FAR less than Cirno yet har event clears first.
Anyone got a solution?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #624 on: August 18, 2013, 01:28:22 PM »
Spoiler:
You mean the Ama no Murakumo? Yeah, at first I saw that and wondered what that sword that wasn't Hisoutensoku was xD So that's that's what gave her power.

Also, to answer to Pesco. I didn't try it out yet. But I had found some BP addresses, but these change every time I exit the game. I can try finding it, but I don't know if it will change or not...

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #625 on: August 18, 2013, 01:39:00 PM »
for anyone who already beat the game
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is that sword with lv 104 recommendation really the last boss? Feels pretty weak to me and the battle is a joke if you use reisen+kogasa. After i beat it an event occurs and i sent back to the village yet the boss still there.
Am i missing something here?
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #626 on: August 18, 2013, 02:27:26 PM »
Special mention will be Aya - the undisputed GOD of floor trash clearing.
Seriously ? Guarantee first strike with Extra Steps ? Holy cow  : :getdown: :getdown: :getdown:, especially when normal attacks are worth using now.
She has SOME utility in boss fights as well, like giving Reimu first turn to harden to frontline, unlike Rin.
I built her for Speed instead of Attack so that may be part of it but I've always found Aya to be great in boss fights.  Throwing around free turns is an amazing ability (on top of always getting the first turn and buffing speed passively) and unlike Kaggy in labyrinth 1 she can do it almost constantly, 66% gauge is nothing when you're as fast as Aya is and buffing yourself automatically to boot.  Usually I just start a boss fight with Keine, Aya, and two attackers in the front row and have 2-3 attack buffs out by the time the attackers move.  Granted she usually does get killed at some point because her durability is pretty bad but I find she can usually take one hit before going down, and sometimes more thanks to Evasion.

In random battles she's still really useful but I usually just end up using her to throw turns to slowpokes like Kaguya or Patchy who can frequently finish random battles in one spell.

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #627 on: August 18, 2013, 02:38:44 PM »
Just wondering,
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has anyone else found Meiling to be completely underwhelming this game? They seem to have completely nerfed her healing and her tankiness. Also, is her heal still based only off of her Atk or is it composite now?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #628 on: August 18, 2013, 04:14:53 PM »
Only these strings were changed from 1.00 text dump to 1.20 text dump:

007D7F18: スキル取得者が前衛にいる場合、無属性攻撃で敵から受けるダメージが減少する。
007D7F18: スキル取得者が前衛にいる場合、全ての属性攻撃で敵から受けるダメージが僅かに減少する。

0082AF38: あの炎の中心にいたやつは??、@うーん、炎の中で何かキラキラ光ってたきがするけど、@あの炎じゃ見間違えかもしれないしなぁ??。@アンタ達も気をつけたほうがいいわよ。
0082AF38: あの炎の中心にいたやつは??、@うーん、炎の中で何かキラキラ光ってた気がするけど、@あの炎じゃ見間違えかもしれないしなぁ??。@アンタ達も気をつけたほうがいいわよ。

0082B000: 知らないわよ。@砂漠に物凄い火柱が上がったから、@興味をもって近づいたらコレよ。
0082B000: 知らないわよ。@砂漠に物凄い火柱が上がったから、@面白そうだと思って近づいたらコレよ。

0082B060: お前だって炎の扱いは大得意だろうに、@そのお前を炎で負かすヤツってどんなだよ?
0082B060: お前だって炎の扱いは大得意だろうに、@そのお前を炎で負かすヤツってどんなだ?

0082B0C0: その丸こげな全身は@一体誰にやられたのよ?
0082B0C0: その丸こげな全身は、一体誰にやられたのよ?

008504F0: 東方の迷宮2 ver1.100
008504F0: 東方の迷宮2 ver1.120

Only the first one is relevant - it seems that the skill 浄玻璃の鏡 (Crystal Cleansing Mirror) has changed from reducing damage from non-elemental (which doesn't actually exist) to reducing damage from all elements. Second to fifth line are part of game script and seem to be really minor grammar fixes anyways, and sixth line is obvious.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #629 on: August 18, 2013, 04:36:29 PM »
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10F FOE was way too easy for me. I had Komachi, Aya, Iku, Suika. Used Aya to use Iku to buff Suika, and 2 hits from Suika was all it took...