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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #510 on: August 15, 2013, 11:51:35 PM »
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First one is Eirin, second one is Suika

I have to say this: thank you soooo much. I'd be lost without your wiki updates and you answering my questions. I appreciate all the hard work you're doing. ;W;

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #511 on: August 16, 2013, 12:14:10 AM »
If anyone has done these events, do you know what is needed to get them and if it gives you anything?
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8F: Utsuho Event
8F: Bushes Event
10F: Minoriko Event
11F: Nazrin Event
13F: Nazrin Event
14F: Nazrin Event
And did anyone got through the left and right rocks on 12F right before moving up to 13F? The condition is 三体の異形を打ち倒した者のみが通ること罷り成る

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Also, there is 2 rocks on 15F blocking the way to another set of stairs to 16F, you need The Mark of Iris, which is most likely dropped by one of the bosses, and to have recruited Yuyuko to pass them. The boss blocking your way is Yukari, what a shocker. And O.o She doesn't mess around, ouch.
« Last Edit: August 16, 2013, 12:27:41 AM by kuilfrayt »
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #512 on: August 16, 2013, 01:50:43 AM »
kuilfrayt, shall I help you with some of the translations? I won't be able to get my hands on the game until a couple weeks later at least, so I have free time to work on it instead.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #513 on: August 16, 2013, 01:57:45 AM »
I just want to say thanks for all the hard work regarding the wiki and getting some of those translations up there, it's a massive help.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #514 on: August 16, 2013, 02:35:20 AM »
kuilfrayt, shall I help you with some of the translations? I won't be able to get my hands on the game until a couple weeks later at least, so I have free time to work on it instead.

I've put the list of Special Items, most of it is already known, but there is also new stuff at the top of the list. I've also put all the messages that appeares when you click on an orange rock.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/az7ypa5m8lie7qj

You can always check the text dump from Qaz to find the events

Updating the file in a bit, I'll put the enemies names in it too.

Edit: http://www.mediafire.com/?xddv9deeqz55geu
With Bestiary and Floor Names
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #515 on: August 16, 2013, 04:39:42 AM »
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Finally got myself a Suika, so I've added her to the Characters 4 page. Even though Kanako and Suwako can be recruited on 10F, I'll put them on the next page, since they can also be recruited on a later floor, and there's already a lot of characters on page 4.

Also I have a feeling the bushes blocking the way on 8F are tied in to Minoriko's event on 3F and Wriggle's event on 5F, but that's just me guessing.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #516 on: August 16, 2013, 04:40:53 AM »
Ok i need help.
Has anyone gotten here past this rock that wants 60 achievements and know what I need to do because this boss wont activate and there is just some conversation between Marisa, Rinnosuke,
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Sakuya
, and
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Okuu
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45476381/Help2.jpg

and there is another place with another rock in 13F i got past that wanted 72 of something and there is this weird colored text box that appears and then characters do a bit of chatting.
here is the weird coloured box: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45476381/Help.jpg

Also i dont get it how much battle points does
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Nazrin
need for the 14F event with her so I can get the item i need for another character. (Well i assume another character will be able to be gotten once i get all these items from these events.)
« Last Edit: August 16, 2013, 07:01:46 PM by PrinnyAce »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #517 on: August 16, 2013, 04:46:38 AM »
I'm cleaning up some of the wiki pages and Alice's spell descriptions have me confused. I know we don't have spell formulas yet, but what exactly does "Damage is calculated with the Defense and Mind of Alice" mean? Does it scale off of Alice's defenses or something?
http://pastebin.com/DzbzqF0k - LoT2 reference list. If anyone catches anything, drop me a line.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #518 on: August 16, 2013, 04:52:24 AM »
Im guessing its a spell that uses alice's magic stat but is mitigated by enemy defense instead of magic resist? Kinda like thlaby1's kanako's spell with all the knives (i forgot the name).

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #519 on: August 16, 2013, 05:02:44 AM »
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Finally got myself a Suika, so I've added her to the Characters 4 page.
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Holy goddamn hell her passives sound broken when you combine them
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #520 on: August 16, 2013, 05:05:12 AM »
I'm cleaning up some of the wiki pages and Alice's spell descriptions have me confused. I know we don't have spell formulas yet, but what exactly does "Damage is calculated with the Defense and Mind of Alice" mean? Does it scale off of Alice's defenses or something?

My bad, I wrongly translated it. It's Alice's Magic against the enemy's Defense.
I have also corrected it on the wiki
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #521 on: August 16, 2013, 05:12:45 AM »
Ya also got one of Iku's skills on Alice's page.
>sees Suika's page
Holy mother of god, did you get that right ?
If it is right then she will be the most broken piece of shit since LOT1 Meiling and Nitori.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #522 on: August 16, 2013, 05:18:37 AM »
Ya also got one of Iku's skill on Alice's page.

Fixed
I've put the growth value and level up difficulty for all characters that were done on the wiki.

Also,
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Has anyone been able to beat Yukari on 15F? Right now, she proceed to just wiping the floor with my team, repeatedly. I know what she's weak against, and what sort of damage she deals but, her spell that makes a character go down to 1 HP is just f***ing broken.

Also once again, the japanese wiki has the floor mapped out with all events and chests stuff up to 6F if anyone wants to put that up.

This is probably gonna be me done for a few days, it's Otakuthon time
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #523 on: August 16, 2013, 05:32:05 AM »
So seeing as certain characters still level faster or slower...
Basically you can probably and effectively cheese the boss suggested level bonus loot thing by having a party full of slow levelers, with a few odd must haves faster levelers if their effectiveness is just too important.

Also suika's stay out longer and get everything buffed sounds nice and all, but they may not necessarily be that amazing if her spell formulas are meh are worse.
Giving the whole party eva+hit sounds fantabugood though.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #524 on: August 16, 2013, 05:43:08 AM »
You can cheese the challenge level by having some Lv. 1 characters (prefereably Rinnosuke and his passive skills) and slightly overleveling others.
Very useful, if you think you can beat the boss with less than 12 characters.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #525 on: August 16, 2013, 05:51:00 AM »
You can cheese the challenge level by having some Lv. 1 characters (prefereably Rinnosuke and his passive skills) and slightly overleveling others.
Very useful, if you think you can beat the boss with less than 12 characters.

Yeah, that's one method, though you hinder yourself too in a way by having less characters... my method really doesn't have a downside at all. Plus you can combine the two for max lulz, which is probably broken since a couple slow leveling average or better defenses characters partied with some lowbies can probably take 0s from virtually everything.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #526 on: August 16, 2013, 05:54:08 AM »
Version 1.120 is out.

Changes:
Fixed a bug where a FOE didn't appear on 15F, 16F and 17F
Fixed a bug where a treasure chest was impossible to get on 14F
Fixed a bug related to some concentration skills
Fixed the bug that made the game crash when accessing Flandre's skills
Fixed a bug with some stairs loophole in 9F and 14F
Fixed a rock on 13F that could not be passed
Fixed a bug that made some treasure chest on 19F have the wrong contents (or no contents)
Fixed some calculation for skills of the Subclass [Enhancer]
13Fの特定の一方通行を使用する事で、進行不能なマスに進入してしまうバグを修正 (not sure what this one means)

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So I went and found the FOE on 16F. He heals himself for 172000 every turn, so yea....Nope.
15F FOE wasn't that impressive. With 178000 HP, after taking a 150k Master Spark, nothing seems impressive doesn't it.
« Last Edit: August 16, 2013, 06:06:04 AM by kuilfrayt »
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #527 on: August 16, 2013, 06:11:51 AM »
13Fの特定の一方通行を使用する事で、進行不能なマスに進入してしまうバグを修正
Fixed a bug where using a certain one-way on Floor 13 leads to a unreachable grid, room, area, space, whatever people call it in English.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #528 on: August 16, 2013, 06:15:11 AM »
Hey, guys. I got a question.

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Does the Strategist spec have any spell cards at all? Because it doesn't show that it has any on the wiki...

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Also, two things about Sakuya... 1. She has no Boost skills at all?!? 2. I remember from somewhere that "Perfect Square" was supposed to be the new version of "The World", only with it boosting all of Sakuya stats instead of just speed. However, "Perfect Square" states that it attacks all enemies, placing them under a short duration of paralysis, and it cost 16 MP. I guess my question to that is what does Perfect Square do exactly? Is it a stat booster? A new nuke? A breath mint? Throw me a bone here.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #529 on: August 16, 2013, 06:58:34 AM »
Just out of curiosity, are the spell descriptions on the wiki coming from tooltips or from testing?  It's not like tooltips haven't been wrong before but I've noticed a few things missing from spell descriptions like how Private Square inflicts Heavy on Sakuya, and Mysterious Song was originally listed as healing when it only heals if it removes a status effect.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #530 on: August 16, 2013, 07:14:11 AM »
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Does the Strategist spec have any spell cards at all? Because it doesn't show that it has any on the wiki...
It doesn't have any.
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Also, two things about Sakuya... 1. She has no Boost skills at all?!? 2. I remember from somewhere that "Perfect Square" was supposed to be the new version of "The World", only with it boosting all of Sakuya stats instead of just speed. However, "Perfect Square" states that it attacks all enemies, placing them under a short duration of paralysis, and it cost 16 MP. I guess my question to that is what does Perfect Square do exactly? Is it a stat booster? A new nuke? A breath mint? Throw me a bone here.
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She doesn't have Boost, but that may just be a bug and be changed later on. No, "Perfect Square" is not a new version of "The World". It just put PAR on enemies. Nothing else, no buffs, no damage, niet.

Just out of curiosity, are the spell descriptions on the wiki coming from tooltips or from testing?  It's not like tooltips haven't been wrong before but I've noticed a few things missing from spell descriptions like how Private Square inflicts Heavy on Sakuya, and Mysterious Song was originally listed as healing when it only heals if it removes a status effect.
I do my translations with the tooltip then test it out in game and make adjustements depending on it.
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Perfect Square never inflicted HVY on Sakuya for me, and the way Mysterious Song works is that it will always clear Silence, and has a chance to clear PAR and HVY, and will heal the character if it clears those two last ailments only.
味方全体の沈黙を回復し、更に中確率で麻痺と鈍重効果も回復するスペル
更にこのスペルで何らかの状態異常が回復したキャラのみ、HPが大きく回復する。
麻痺と鈍重についてはあくまで確率での治癒なので、過信すると痛い目を見る事も。
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

But yes, I've seen tooltips be wrong before, wrong MP, different effects, single/multi target inverted, etc.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #531 on: August 16, 2013, 07:34:54 AM »
Is being debuffed count as being affected by an ailment ?
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #532 on: August 16, 2013, 08:40:44 AM »
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No, "Perfect Square" is not a new version of "The World". It just put PAR on enemies. Nothing else, no buffs, no damage, niet.

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Does it last for very long, or is it as the notes say? Because if it's just for a weak PAR effect, then that wouldn't make any sense at all to even bother using this spell.

However, Sakuya having both the Extra Attack skill and a skill that applies PAR to all attacks(Flashing Murder) would probably make up for it, since a spamming of such knives would be a beautiful thing to behold. And I can easily see her using any of these specs to become more effective:

Monk(go faster,auto heal and buff every turn, allows you to hit and speed up with one spell, or hit hard by ignoring most of the enemy's DEF with the other spell)
Toxicologist(raises ailment resist, increases PAR proc from Flashing Murder, gives other ailments/elements spells as options that can proc with Extra Attack for serious havoc on enemies)
Enhancer(gives spells that buff the other four stats, can strengthen Luna Clock's effect and gives it a small healing effect as well)
Magician(skill that can make Misdirection and Luna Clock become essentially cost free, skill that grants a 1 in 5 chance of casting any spell a zero MP cost)

Also, when the Magician spell "Magic Transfer" says that it gives 3 MP to all allies, does that also include the user as well?
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #533 on: August 16, 2013, 09:02:48 AM »
Is being debuffed count as being affected by an ailment ?

I doubt it, otherwise wouldn't china's healing rain cure debuffs in lot1?

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #534 on: August 16, 2013, 10:42:28 AM »
I do my translations with the tooltip then test it out in game and make adjustements depending on it.
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Perfect Square never inflicted HVY on Sakuya for me, and the way Mysterious Song works is that it will always clear Silence, and has a chance to clear PAR and HVY, and will heal the character if it clears those two last ailments only.
味方全体の沈黙を回復し、更に中確率で麻痺と鈍重効果も回復するスペル
更にこのスペルで何らかの状態異常が回復したキャラのみ、HPが大きく回復する。
麻痺と鈍重についてはあくまで確率での治癒なので、過信すると痛い目を見る事も。
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
Nah, that's right, the description on the wiki made it sound like a party-wide heal that also removed status as a bonus originally (and didn't mention HVY).

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Does it last for very long, or is it as the notes say? Because if it's just for a weak PAR effect, then that wouldn't make any sense at all to even bother using this spell.
The selling point is that it's apparently completely unblockable.  I'm still kind of wondering how useful Sakuya will end up being though, she otherwise seems very similar to her rather ineffective laby1 self (Killing Doll still has the same high power, high defense influence thing).  Extra Attack is nice though, especially if it can trigger off Luna Dial.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #535 on: August 16, 2013, 12:15:23 PM »
According to the japanese wiki, the Chen events need 50BP on F4, 100BP on F5, 150BP on F6. That's probably the pattern so put that into the recruitment conditions for
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Ran
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #536 on: August 16, 2013, 03:49:33 PM »
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Does it last for very long, or is it as the notes say? Because if it's just for a weak PAR effect, then that wouldn't make any sense at all to even bother using this spell.

However, Sakuya having both the Extra Attack skill and a skill that applies PAR to all attacks(Flashing Murder) would probably make up for it, since a spamming of such knives would be a beautiful thing to behold. And I can easily see her using any of these specs to become more effective:

Monk(go faster,auto heal and buff every turn, allows you to hit and speed up with one spell, or hit hard by ignoring most of the enemy's DEF with the other spell)
Toxicologist(raises ailment resist, increases PAR proc from Flashing Murder, gives other ailments/elements spells as options that can proc with Extra Attack for serious havoc on enemies)
Enhancer(gives spells that buff the other four stats, can strengthen Luna Clock's effect and gives it a small healing effect as well)
Magician(skill that can make Misdirection and Luna Clock become essentially cost free, skill that grants a 1 in 5 chance of casting any spell a zero MP cost)

Also, when the Magician spell "Magic Transfer" says that it gives 3 MP to all allies, does that also include the user as well?

Spoiler:
The PAR doesn't last for very long, but it's increased by leveling up the spell.
Magic Transfer does not affect the caster
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #537 on: August 16, 2013, 06:02:59 PM »

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #538 on: August 16, 2013, 06:54:35 PM »
Oh nice,
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according to tooltips Tenshi's buff dispel chance can be increased by leveling up one of her passives now.
  Really annoyed me how random it was in laby1.

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She has no Boost skills at all?!?

Remember, there are consumable items that give characters Boost skills they don't have already.  Though honestly I think it's more likely 3peso just never got around to picking something.

Also apparently there's a Main item (Emergency Kit) which increases the HP growth of whoever is given it by a sizeable amount in exchange for reducing passive HP recovery by a lot.  Seems really good.

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #539 on: August 16, 2013, 07:34:23 PM »
can someone help meee? i just got Eirin and don't know anything about her skills.  even wiki don't have this character.
here is
#1 http://postimg.org/image/mt95srkdd/
#2 http://postimg.org/image/v8ingflwr/
#3 http://postimg.org/image/6gj1974q3/
#4 http://postimg.org/image/r3t3pbscd/
#5 http://postimg.org/image/i6aq4bzd3/
#6 http://postimg.org/image/do8fc8jbb/

thanks youuuuu.