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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #420 on: August 14, 2013, 04:18:44 AM »
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #421 on: August 14, 2013, 04:26:53 AM »
Holy mother of f*** that new Tenshi O.o

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #422 on: August 14, 2013, 04:39:17 AM »
Huh, she gives off a psycho major villain vibe. Unless she actually is a villain in this one, I do have to wonder why they changed it from the avatar they had before. I liked that one.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #423 on: August 14, 2013, 04:42:28 AM »
I've had high hopes for you man

He seems like a perfect candidate for subspeccing - High Boost skills all over the place. Just have him fill whatever your team is lacking. He ends up keeping the "many possibilities" gimmick, in a way.

And manic Tenshi is hilarious in about five different ways.  :derp:
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #424 on: August 14, 2013, 04:53:09 AM »
Huh, she gives off a psycho major villain vibe. Unless she actually is a villain in this one, I do have to wonder why they changed it from the avatar they had before. I liked that one.

After the battle, she has the old avatar, so I'm guessing that was her "I want to have fun" face and the next one is "You guys are pathetic" face

Also, Alice hurts like a truck >.< That was a painful fight
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #425 on: August 14, 2013, 05:16:46 AM »
Spoiler:
Beating all of Patchy's wandering stones does get her to join.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #426 on: August 14, 2013, 07:39:23 AM »
I have some questions about laby2 if someone doesn't mind answering, sorry if they are stated somewhere, can't find it on wiki or anything.
first up, The settings are:
bgm volume
sound volume
bloom (Is that what it's called? regardless changing it makes a very obvious shading/colouring change) on/off.
???
???
???

Also, how does one play in fullscreen mode? You CAN can't you? I hate playing games in windowed mode qq. I realize I can manually stretch the window to cover more screen but then it becomes all pixelated, yech. Plus it's impossible to cover the entire screen for real like that anyway.

Also, when you get a green exclamation mark, you get a treasure or item or something, I dunno, but they fade out but not go away completely. Why? Do they respawn or something? Do I require something to get more from it? Seems odd that they simply fade away and not go away entirely.

The first boss I found says level 3, is that the maximum level I can be for maximum loot? or is that just a suggested level and I can get even more loot by being even under whatever number that boss says (and others of course).

Thought I had one more but I forget. Doh.

Anyway, the production value of this game is really nice. I mean I love the music in the first game, but the art wasn't very good. But this is more than that...The art just has the same vibe as the music this time around, as well as the interface, the animated background.. all the little things. They all add up and compliment each other perfectly.


Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #427 on: August 14, 2013, 07:42:24 AM »
He seems like a perfect candidate for subspeccing - High Boost skills all over the place. Just have him fill whatever your team is lacking. He ends up keeping the "many possibilities" gimmick, in a way.
He's too good as a dedicated support (switching someone with 91% bar instead of 75% is amazing) to change into a fighter.  Though giving him a way to actually contribute in random battles would be nice, in what's apparently the Gensokyou version of sexism he's the only character so far without a single offensive spell.  Even the character who copies everyone else still has one!

Also, I think there were consumable items that could give a character a Boost ability that they didn't have originally; I could be wrong but I'm guessing there might be versions that can upgrade a regular boost ability into a High Boost ability.

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The first boss I found says level 3, is that the maximum level I can be for maximum loot? or is that just a suggested level and I can get even more loot by being even under whatever number that boss says (and others of course).
you need to have all characters at or below the recommended level to get maximum loot IIRC

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #428 on: August 14, 2013, 09:26:56 AM »
He's too good as a dedicated support (switching someone with 91% bar instead of 75% is amazing) to change into a fighter.  Though giving him a way to actually contribute in random battles would be nice, in what's apparently the Gensokyou version of sexism he's the only character so far without a single offensive spell.  Even the character who copies everyone else still has one!

Well, he's not actually considered a fighter in canon, so it's no surprise that he has no offensive spells here...

Also, if you feel that he's better as a support type, then maybe you could try these specs:

A more effective first slot DEF tank who is somewhat faster in using Concentrate...(Guardian)
A faster character who can sometimes act first and auto heals and buffs himself each turn.(Monk)
A much more effective healer, strengthening his First Aid spell by leaps and bounds.(Healer)
Someone who defensively buffs as he heals, and heals somewhat as he buffs.(Enhancer)

And this is ignoring the actual spells of each spec, with the first two I've mentioned(Guardian, Monk) having actual offensive power in their cards, if you're so inclined to actually put points into them.

Also, I have a separate question. Is the Guardian's skill for increasing the ATB on Concentrate really (5000 + (SLv * 2))? I ask because that doesn't sound right at all, it sounds too small to be worth it at all. How much ATB is left when you use Concentrate without this skill?
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #429 on: August 14, 2013, 09:30:47 AM »
Also, I have a separate question. Is the Guardian's skill for increasing the ATB on Concentrate really (5000 + (SLv * 2))? I ask because that doesn't sound right at all, it sounds too small to be worth it at all. How much ATB is left when you use Concentrate without this skill?

The ATB bar is put at 5000 when you concentrate, 7000 when you do a normal attack
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #430 on: August 14, 2013, 09:33:30 AM »
you need to have all characters at or below the recommended level to get maximum loot IIRC

Thanks, I just remembered that last question =P. spells that hit every enemy still require you to select a target. Is there a point to that? As far as I can tell the target I select takes just as much damage as the others *shrugs*.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #431 on: August 14, 2013, 09:39:36 AM »
I have some questions about laby2 if someone doesn't mind answering, sorry if they are stated somewhere, can't find it on wiki or anything.
first up, The settings are:
bgm volume
sound volume
bloom (Is that what it's called? regardless changing it makes a very obvious shading/colouring change) on/off.
???
???
???

BGM volume
Sound volume
Screen Effect
Screen Effect - Contrast
Screen Effect - Brightness
Dialogue Speed
Return to Title Screen

The first boss I found says level 3, is that the maximum level I can be for maximum loot? or is that just a suggested level and I can get even more loot by being even under whatever number that boss says (and others of course).

You'll get bonus items when the party's average level is equal to or less than the level below the boss icon, ROUNDED DOWN.
For example, if you fight the Lv. 3 boss with a Lv. 4 Reimu, Lv.4 Marisa, Lv.4 Keine, and a Lv.3 Rinnosuke, you'll still get the bonus items.
The bonus will be any two of the items that you can use to raise stats at the shrine.

For maximum loot, well, you just keep fighting the boss again and again until the boss drops all the items at the same time.


EDIT:
I want to ask a question.
What does the pop-up window say when you level down a character at the Hakurei Shrine?
« Last Edit: August 14, 2013, 10:17:56 AM by Sungho »
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #432 on: August 14, 2013, 10:56:15 AM »
The patch file contains everything. A more likely answer is that they aren't playable. They weren't in LoT1 before the expansion, as well.

(also for consistency with LoT1 call her "Maribel Han", and "Mari" for short. I am not getting into a thing with her clusterfuck of a name, so unless ZUN declares at AWA what her godawful name is supposed to be, just leave it the same as it was in LoT1)
Offtopic part: Mari's name isn't godawful, don't be like that :( Also, when is AWA going to be again?

Ontopic(?) part: This full version doesn't have fullscreen mode as far as I know, again...

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #433 on: August 14, 2013, 11:04:07 AM »
I love this idea of a level incentive for maximum loot. I went and fought Youmu without having recruited Kogasa or Rumia yet and relived the good old times of racing her down with just one character for the damage.

Spoilers for the full game: everything after F6 (end of the trial version) should be spoiler tagged?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #434 on: August 14, 2013, 11:14:48 AM »
Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Gold or Yen ?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #435 on: August 14, 2013, 11:15:46 AM »
Yen. It's shorter.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #436 on: August 14, 2013, 11:42:52 AM »
Hey guys, figured I'd help with the translation by sorting things out a bit. I took the text dump and separated out the stuff for all of the Main Equipment, Sub Equipment, Materials, Special Items, character skills and spells and specialty skills and spells and put them each in their own .txt file. Hopefully this will be helpful in sorting everything out.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #437 on: August 14, 2013, 12:43:32 PM »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #438 on: August 14, 2013, 01:21:42 PM »

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #439 on: August 14, 2013, 04:45:48 PM »
This game has too many characters, I feel like I'm ditching half of them without giving them a real chance.  Oh well, that's what second (and third, and fourth given that there are 48 characters apparently) playthroughs are for I guess.

Hopefully this one will have the mode that 1 did that lets you use all the characters from lv 1 on later playthroughs, since the new MP system means the late-joiners probably won't be crippled by joining early.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #440 on: August 14, 2013, 04:54:23 PM »
Spoiler:
How the hell are you supposed to beat 9F Tenshi? My attacks do next to nothing to her.

E: Scratch that, she's down.

Spoiler:
Sooo:
1-3F=Grasslands
4-6F=Underwater
7-9=Jungle
10-?F=Desert
Wow this tree needs to pick a climate and stick with it.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2013, 05:07:35 PM by Hinacle »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #441 on: August 14, 2013, 05:07:01 PM »
The ATB bar is put at 5000 when you concentrate, 7000 when you do a normal attack

What about with the Guardian skill? How much ATB do you get out of it for Concentrating?
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #442 on: August 14, 2013, 05:09:07 PM »
What about with the Guardian skill? How much ATB do you get out of it for Concentrating?
They changed the description, it is now (5000 + SLv * 1000), up to 2 levels

E: Scratch that, she's down.

Spoiler:
Tenshi was such a pain to beat at the challenge level. I almost panicked when the second fight started and I thought I would have to do another one of this atrocity

Also, I've started putting up some characters for the floors 7-10 on the wiki, more will go up as I translate them. I'm not paying much attention to recruitement conditions, so they won't all be there.

Spoiler:
I decided to pick Mokou when you had to choose, and on 10F, there is a event that will make Kaguya join you
« Last Edit: August 14, 2013, 05:15:13 PM by kuilfrayt »
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #443 on: August 14, 2013, 05:21:07 PM »
Spoiler:
They used part of the final boss music for the trailer.
Also there's a Meiling event on 6F (i think) and how am I supposed to clear that? Same with the Sanae event on 7F (again I'm not sure)

« Last Edit: August 14, 2013, 05:23:03 PM by Hinacle »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #444 on: August 14, 2013, 05:27:03 PM »
Spoiler:
They used part of the final boss music for the trailer.
Also there's a Meiling event on 6F (i think) and how am I supposed to clear that? Same with the Sanae event on 7F (again I'm not sure)

Spoiler:
Meiling is on 7F, and I got back to it a few levels later, but I don't really know the conditions, so your best bet is either try to get battle points on certain characters, defeat the different FOEs or clear as much events as you can find before coming back to that one. Same with Sanae, though with her, it seems I gave her an item, I just don't know what

Spoiler:
There is also special items that can unlock additionnal subclasses, I have 1 more which seems to be around restoring MP to other members

Spoiler:
On 10F, killing the FOEs will recruit Kanako OR Suwako. Whichever side you choose to kill will recruit that character, and going back to the event on the other side will make it disappear. Strangely, they seemed very easy compared to the previous FOEs on 8F and 9F. Not that I'm gonna complain after that Tenshi...
Continuing on 10F, the rock on Suwako's side requires you to have recruited Suika to pass through
« Last Edit: August 14, 2013, 05:40:37 PM by kuilfrayt »
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #445 on: August 14, 2013, 05:46:58 PM »

Spoiler:
There is also special items that can unlock additionnal subclasses, I have 1 more which seems to be around restoring MP to other members

Spoiler:
I knew it. I called that one right, that I did.

Ahem.

Spoiler:
I'll presume that you'll put that info in the Specialty section later. Because I would love to know about how it works... (Sorry if I sound rude or something...)
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #446 on: August 14, 2013, 05:51:04 PM »
Spoiler:
Sooo:
1-3F=Grasslands
4-6F=Underwater
7-9=Jungle
10-?F=Desert
Wow this tree needs to pick a climate and stick with it.
Spoiler:
My guess is these different climates are a reference to Etrian Odyssey.
Green Forest = 1st stratum in all EO games
Underwater = 2nd Stratum in EO3
 Jungle = 2nd Stratum in EO1
Desert = 4th Stratum in EO1

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #447 on: August 14, 2013, 05:52:57 PM »
Orin's Blazing Wheel just proc'd 5 times in a row. If you don't think that's the coolest thing ever you need to get out.

Spoiler:
My guess is these different climates are a reference to Etrian Odyssey.
Green Forest = 1st stratum in all EO games
Underwater = 2nd Stratum in EO3
 Jungle = 2nd Stratum in EO1
Desert = 4th Stratum in EO1

Oooooh, I'm gonna go with that. It seems like the only likely explanation as to why a tree can have all of those climates. Thanks!

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #448 on: August 14, 2013, 05:53:31 PM »
Spoiler:
I'll presume that you'll put that info in the Specialty section later. Because I would love to know about how it works... (Sorry if I sound rude or something...)

Once I'm done being adicted to this game, I'll start putting up more translation for everything
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F
« Reply #449 on: August 14, 2013, 06:57:40 PM »

That's too much MP, Orin. Calm down.
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