Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and 10F

[Smashy]

I meant the !s blocking the path towards the 6F stairs, but killing the crystal took care of them.

(And then a desperation Chensawing took care of the boss <_<)

[Eilaris]

The way it's actually called in game is 銭, which can be translated as Qi?n, a Chinese coin, also called Mace or Tsin. It's also the kanji for the former Japanese coin sen, worth 1/100 of a yen. So yea, we got choice, pick what you think sounds best. Also, I was putting as "Money" because the kanji can also simply mean that.

Btw Kvre, you might want to correct up the enemy image, it says "Elemental Resistence" and "Ailment Resistence", where it should be "Resistance"

Anyone in here familiar with the Japanese versions of the Etrian Odyssey games to know whether they use the same kanji?  If so, the EO series translates it as 'en', for the record.

[CF7]

Hm... I don't really care what money will be called in translation, but if i have to pick something i'd go with "sen"

[Serela]

Anyone in here familiar with the Japanese versions of the Etrian Odyssey games to know whether they use the same kanji?  If so, the EO series translates it as 'en', for the record.

It's full name (in english) is Ental, though. (Although I hear japanese say yen as en, but I wouldn't know)

I'd probably go with "sen", too, unless maybe it's the same symbol they use for money in japenese EO games just because ThLaby2 borrows almost all it's new features from the EO series as it is.

[Kuilfrayt]

I'll see with some gameplay footage what I'm able to get out of it. Also

Anyone have an idea what ヤツメノオロチ would be? I understand it's a pun on the Yamata no Orochi, but I have no clue what Yatsume would mean.

I will also be posting an updated file with all monsters names and items I could get my grubby hands on later this week so we can start populating the wiki.

[Sungho]

Just so you know, the currency in the Japanese Etrian Odyssey games are 'en'. In English.

I think it comes from lamprey(ヤツメウナギ). ヤツメ means eight-eyed in English here.

[Xarizzar]

Yes. Yatsume no Orochi is translated as the Eight-eyed Serpent, from my experience with Japanese too.

[Kuilfrayt]

Yea, that's what I just found out. I'm leaning toward Qian or Yen for the currency myself

Eight-Eyed Serpent sounds good

[CF7]

Fighting Winner. All is going well. He already exhausted all his healing stuff and has ~20 mil left. And then this happens. Time Stop => Longsword Ringil => Jungle Creation => Time Stop => Wand of Fire => Starburst => Wand of Destruction => Wipe.
WTF? I mean WHAT THE FUCK? He did it out of spite, i swear.

UPD: And i just killed him on second try after that. Without much trouble. He used his weak heal only once, never used his 30 mil heal and otherwise was quite easy. Should pray to gods of Random more often.

And now i'm thinking about doing that 1-3 sorta challenge run i talked about earlier. I.e. using girls only appearing in 1-3 stages of games.
Rumia, Cirno, Meiling, Chen, Alice, Wriggle, Mystia, Keine, Minoriko, Nitori, Yuugi, And i guess Yuyuko since she's stage 1 boss in TD. =)
Any thoughts on this team?

[Sungho]

I think I found what might be a major bug in the current version of the demo: The passive boost-skills that all characters have in different categories (TP boost, MP boost, Attack boost etc.) seem to increase their respective stats when leveled, but seem to decrease EVERY other stat at the same time. I don't think this is intended and the way it is now, it's probably not worth ever spending skill points to increase these (except maybe MP, as those are so hard to come by).

The FAQ in the Japanese wiki says that every 4 skill points unused gives a 1% boost to all stats.

[Kirin no Sora]

The FAQ in the Japanese wiki says that every 4 skill points unused gives a 1% boost to all stats.

What. I mean, what.

...would that mean that having 400 unused skill points would give a 100% boost to all stats? Either there's a cap to how high that bonus goes, or this is actually a sort of way to make sure that no matter what you do, that you'll have a stronger character(Thought on this implies the idea of "unskilled, but stronger" vs. "skilled, but not as strong", or something).

[Sungho]

It's less amazing than one might think.
With the same amount of bonuses you get from leveling up, you can give a certain stat a +2000% boost.

[Validon98]

In LoT1 news, I beat the Hibachi Twins at Reimu 181. THAT was infuriating as hell. At least I'm done with the Bloodstained Seal bosses. Now to see what's up with F21 (I know I really should be doing the V2 bosses and maybe the Boss Rush, but I want to be much higher level for both so that I can breeze through them easily).

EDIT: After beating Orin v2 and Reisen v2 with setups that aren't really that great, I'm getting a feeling I'm more than prepared in levels for a good amount of them, and beating the easier ones (not that I know which ones are "easy" and which ones are "hard," though I assume Yukari and Rinnosuke lean towards the latter) will probably earn me enough levels to take on the harder ones. And then somewhere along the way I'll do the boss rush and refight Maribel so that the first ten page item star counts (I've got everything but the Great Question Mask, obviously). And then I can actually do some more stuff with the Plus Disk floors. This postgame is so busy.

SECOND EDIT: ...And I just finished beating all of the Version 2 bosses. Well that was easy. I guess all that's left for me now before I can fully explore everything is do the Boss Rush. If I could cream the Version 2 bosses like I did, this is going to be a snap to deal with. Also, I actually killed Version 2 Yukari before she shifted to her third form. I think I dealt way too much damage in her second form, which is awesome before I didn't have to eat two Djinn Storms.

[Kuilfrayt]

Small/kinda big update with all the items I could find, almost all names translated and their effects, I've not done the description for all of them mostly because I couldn't be bothered right now, except for the Special Items (mostly), so we can start putting up the Item wiki. As well, I've done all the bestiary and their drops (once again with a few exceptions that I couldn't find a meaning)

If you have any suggestions for names that could be translated better, or names that have no translation, propose them here.

http://www.mediafire.com/?4umd307r8dva8b4

I've done a few characters that were unlocked with the cheat file but, seeing as their abilities are almost all the same, and skills seems to be placeholders

Spoiler:

for example, Remilia had maybe 1 skill that I had not seen on another character, and they were all pretty normal stuff, nothing impressive, so I'm holding my breath for something better

, so with that, I won't be doing anymore of those really since they don't seem finish and it would be a waste to do.

[Axel Ryman]

Kinda stuck on Floor 3 of LoT2.

Spoiler:

Defeated the FOE on the floor but I'm blocked by a bush. Only other icon accessible is a boss that's level 32, and other ! marks that do nothing for me.

[Sahgren]

Kinda stuck on Floor 3 of LoT2.

Spoiler:

Defeated the FOE on the floor but I'm blocked by a bush. Only other icon accessible is a boss that's level 32, and other ! marks that do nothing for me.

Try the battle. Do iiiiiit~,

[Kuilfrayt]

So I've been messing around a bit



And I was wondering, what's the way to increase the allocated space to put text in (like, Momiji Inubashiri takes quite a lot to write, but it takes 7 spaces in the editor, and I guess I can up to 11, but that's still not enough)

I'm only looking at it for fun for now, if I need to take a 6 month class about how to format text, I'll just go back to what I'm good (bad) at and keep translating

Also qazmlpok, do you think you could provide me with the entire text dump? Or is there a way to show kanjis/hiragana in a hex editor, cause all I see is random bullshit, with some english words sprinkled here and there. (Using HxD right now)

[Validon98]

And at Reimu 238 I've beaten the Agastobrauma. I swear, this time when I beat I felt like I was in this rhythm of switching out Patchy, Yukari, and Iku. Also I got REALLY lucky and he didn't use stuff like Magical Hellfire, which always devastates me. Onwards to Floor 26, then!

[qazmlpok]

And I was wondering, what's the way to increase the allocated space to put text in (like, Momiji Inubashiri takes quite a lot to write, but it takes 7 spaces in the editor, and I guess I can up to 11, but that's still not enough)

I'm only looking at it for fun for now, if I need to take a 6 month class about how to format text, I'll just go back to what I'm good (bad) at and keep translating

Also qazmlpok, do you think you could provide me with the entire text dump? Or is there a way to show kanjis/hiragana in a hex editor, cause all I see is random bullshit, with some english words sprinkled here and there. (Using HxD right now)

This should be the full thing.
http://www.mediafire.com/?1egkxhjk613wh1b

By allotted space, do you mean in the exe file itself? As in, not enough space there to put in the full word before you run into the next block? Yes, that's possible, and my tool will do it automatically. I don't recommend trying to do it manually, because basically what you do is write the string in full somewhere else in the file and update the assembly references to use the new block of memory.

As for displaying kanji, I believe some hex editors can display unicode/encoded characters in addition to just ascii. I don't do this, though, so you'd just have to google around for various hex editors and try to find one that does support it.

[Xarizzar]

A text table? That helps. Also, for Japanese text, try Stirling(Although it's Japanese Hex Editor *lame me* -_- )

[DarkAtma]

Talking about TL1 This is more of a "whos a better character" In my last slot i am struggling for Ran,yuyuko and patchouli All MAG build, Now the question is, in a boss battle who theorically could deal most damage in least time? Considering all are at the same level and boss has neutral affinities, my guesses would be something like

-Ran Can spam youkai laser twice due to her respectable speed and MAG
-Patchouli uses selent silene once due to her low speed But deals obscene damage due to MAG and neutral element
-yuyuko uses flawless nirvana once, again due to low speed But has High damage due to formula

Now, Can ran twin laser outdamage a single patchouli/yuyuko spell?

Wich of these 3 is the best in a boss scenario?

[Serela]

Ran's generally better off spamming her low-delay composite skill for single targets.

Patchouli's Silent Selene isn't as "obscene damage" as you would think, but one of her highlights her her obscene MND.

Yuyuko is also pretty durable for a nuker... actually, Ran is too. That makes them vaguely similar.

Yuyuko is much more of a one-trick pony though, because she only has SPI, which several bosses resist. Plus she isn't very good until you have BOATLOADS of sp...

[Axel Ryman]

Try the battle. Do iiiiiit~,

Well I feel silly for not trying...


Kinda want the image sets for LoT2. Anyone wanna point me to the method to getting them? Or am I breaking a rule with that? 

[CF7]

Talking about TL1 This is more of a "whos a better character" In my last slot i am struggling for Ran,yuyuko and patchouli All MAG build, Now the question is, in a boss battle who theorically could deal most damage in least time? Considering all are at the same level and boss has neutral affinities, my guesses would be something like

-Ran Can spam youkai laser twice due to her respectable speed and MAG
-Patchouli uses selent silene once due to her low speed But deals obscene damage due to MAG and neutral element
-yuyuko uses flawless nirvana once, again due to low speed But has High damage due to formula

Now, Can ran twin laser outdamage a single patchouli/yuyuko spell?

Wich of these 3 is the best in a boss scenario?

Omg, why would you build Ran as a nuker? Well, maybe i was doing something wrong with my team, but i built her defensively and she was sitting constantly in 2nd slot and was buffing everyone. So can't tell how good at attacking she is.
As for Patchy/Yuyuko against boss with neutral affinities i'd go with Yuyuko. At least in my team she was doing damage compared to Megawatt's and she's quite durable too.

[Serela]

Yes, Yuyuko is glorious once you have the SP to spam her nuke... as long as the boss doesn't resist SPI. (Sadly a few of the later plus disk big bosses do resist it)

Also, Ran is kind of a jack of all trades. I honestly don't like her buffs until you have thousands of SP (and then I use the defensive one every single turn after getting everyone's DEF/MND buffed by Reimu and Yukari, so that it just can't really get a chance to run down. That extra 20~30% def/mnd all the time makes a huge difference) but apart from that she's also a really great attacker with her composite skill, because composite skills become so much stronger after a buff from Iku, moreso then other attacks (Probably because there's a higher defense margin to get through)... AND she's tank-tier durability. She's got it all.

[Kirin no Sora]

Um, guys... I got a question.

Since I just noticed that Reimu's picture has been set up in the LoT2 Character section of the wiki, would it be possible for me to presume that the other character pictures will be set up shortly? I'm sorry if this sounds pushy or rude...

[Kuilfrayt]

Wait what, it actually worked? I put up the picture about a week ago, but it didn't seem to change so I thought I just messed it up, I guess I should put up the rest now... (at least if I can remember I put that one up XD)

Edit: Ok I've put up the pictures for all characters, as well as almost all the other characters that have not appeared yet. Also, I kinda messed up a bit in some uploads, is there any way to delete the pictures you've submitted? (uploaded something as LoT2_Chara_Iku_Suwako, so I wanted to remove it)

[qazmlpok]

If there's no option to move/rename the file (I don't see one for the file, even though I can move regular pages), tag it for deletion with this:

{{delete|File name is wrong (should be LoT2 Chara Suwako Stand)}}

You probably can't delete the file yourself, so an admin will need to do it. Tagging it like this is probably the best course.

[Kuilfrayt]

Well looks like someone changed the name, so all is good.

Also, for putting the translation in the game, is there a way to 1. Change the font (cause it's f***ing ugly), and 2. Change the font size, because some of the menu didn't really fit with what I put in it.



Else we can just change what's written to make it shorter

[qazmlpok]

In general, I recommend changing the text. Especially since that is a rather verbose line.  Changing font size usually just makes it harder to read, uglier, and only buys you a few extra characters.

Changing the font face is probably possible. I can't remember exactly how it worked in lot1; I think there were two fonts that worked with the game and people could install whichever they liked, but I have no recollection of where those came from. I don't know much about how font families work, but it might be possible to change it simply by installing a new font and without actually changing anything in the exe.

In any event, I'd say that's the kind of thing to not worry too much about until everything else is done.