Author Topic: Town Mafia (Game Over) (Read 100551 times)

BT · « **Reply #540 on:** July 27, 2013, 12:47:35 PM »

Quote from: Validon98 on July 22, 2013, 02:05:13 PM

I haven't read too much into Raitaki because of his lack of posts so I'm not entirely convinced. I'll have to do that later.

"later":

Quote from: Validon98 on July 23, 2013, 05:41:12 PM

ttitude kind of angered me a bit, but I haven't really seen anything from his overall posts that makes me feel like he's scum.
My mind since my last post on who's scum is still the same: SB and Raitaki.

BT · « **Reply #541 on:** July 27, 2013, 12:50:56 PM »

Quote from: Vhaltzotsuki on July 22, 2013, 09:13:55 PM

This is townnnnnnnnnnnnn.
Just look at that, he actually thinks that Condition Fulfilling Upgrading Mafia Boss is a common role that could be in this setup and that Dormio is fulfilling conditions by talking about Steam forever. It makes no senseeeeeeeeee. 100% paranoia. Town paranoia. Not lynching Validon.

(I don't agree with this - could have very well come from inexperienced <insert allegiance here>)

The response:

Quote from: Validon98 on July 22, 2013, 09:59:23 PM

Also, sorry about the Condition Fulfilling Upgrading Mafia Boss thing. It just seemed so similar I couldn't help but think back to I Wanna Be the Sereliest. >_>;

This is weird if from scum.

I don't know right now.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #542 on:** July 27, 2013, 12:53:05 PM »

Yes I'm aware, my main concern there is you BT actually. You were pretty quick to escalate the Raitaki wagon though. I supose I could get behind lynching Validon first. Actually rereading I want to ask, why did it take you so long to comment on Raitaki's claim, Validon? You were uh, too busy asking me WHAT'S YOUR OPINION to comment on it until he got subtly counterclaimed by half the game.

BT · « **Reply #543 on:** July 27, 2013, 12:55:12 PM »

Quote from: Validon98 on July 27, 2013, 12:30:57 PM

Cut: Shadoweh, I'm sorry but you're going to have to wait until later. I have to go for a few hours. When I comeback I'll doing some reading. Of course by that time everyone's going to turbolynch me and find out that, whoops, I'm just a Mafia Goon who's just been playing badly again. >_>;

But this is so icky.

As is most of his vote explanations that sound forced.

(cut)

BT · « **Reply #544 on:** July 27, 2013, 01:03:18 PM »

Quote from: Shadoweh on July 27, 2013, 12:53:05 PM

You were uh, too busy asking me WHAT'S YOUR OPINION to comment on it until he got subtly counterclaimed by half the game.

Weren't these two posts apart?

Shadoweh · « **Reply #545 on:** July 27, 2013, 01:06:23 PM »

I mean that Raitaki claimed, then Validon posted a few times about me, then he posted about me again and added a 'oh yeah his claim sucks because he's lurking I guess' onto the end of it.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #546 on:** July 27, 2013, 01:11:45 PM »

Seriously what kind of mod gives the townies a Miller and a Bus Driver that can target itself, it's like daring the info roles to kill themselves.

ActionDan · « **Reply #547 on:** July 27, 2013, 03:28:57 PM »

Quote from: Affinity on July 26, 2013, 12:14:17 AM

Will ##Kill: ActionDan for now. Details later.

Hi Affinity.

ActionDan · « **Reply #548 on:** July 27, 2013, 03:30:23 PM »

Shadoweh is the stuff that you're getting useful in anyway? A yes/no answer suffices. Also I still have no idea what you're going on about with busdrivers/redirectors etc.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #549 on:** July 27, 2013, 03:34:38 PM »

There is one. And since when have I ever been straight about anything? But I don't know.

ActionDan · « **Reply #550 on:** July 27, 2013, 04:10:29 PM »

let me logic.

I don't know how you have deduced that there is a scum power that redirects but:

if busdriver, why haven't they redirected the goodies that seem to come your way unto themselves?

=> they are probably the kind of redirector that targets someone and changes any action they take unto a target of their choice.

I.e. Scum redirector targets person A. redirects all actions A takes unto person B.

Does this help in anyway? (Also I was quite serious when I asked if your um..gifts? actually did anything)

Shadoweh · « **Reply #551 on:** July 27, 2013, 04:20:40 PM »

Maybe they like their goodies better. I used the power of looking carefully over Zakeri's modding records and finding his hidden mafia setup. (In all seriousness they don't say if they do anything and the last one makes me suspect their source if they're not random.)

ActionDan · « **Reply #552 on:** July 27, 2013, 05:03:33 PM »

May I see what your research uncovered?

Validon98 · « **Reply #553 on:** July 27, 2013, 05:21:32 PM »

So you're using mod meta to deduce this? Ugh, that's no way for anyone to figure out which roles are in play. There's no evidence of a bus driver that I've seen, nor have I seen evidence of a miller.
Anyways, you asked about the delay between Raitaki's claim and my reaction? To be honest, I don't remember if it was because I had IRL stuff I was dealing with at the time and I was still kind of in "I don't even know what to think of you" mode. In fact now with your research I've reentered that mode, because seriously? That's kind of, I don't know, something I don't trust. As for my read, that comment about him being lurky WAS my read. Didn't you notice I used exact numbers? I went and I read him and I noted he posted only so many times, hence my comment on his lurkiness. So even if I didn't say it was a read, it was a read, whether or not you believe it.
After a quick look back at Dormio (I haven't entirely reread, but there's a few things that I've noticed), I'm not sure he's town.

Quote from: Yoshino on July 23, 2013, 06:45:36 AM

But, you know, I think I'll humor you and do an opinion post on the people you've listed.

Validon: I think he's town but I'm not reading a single word he's saying.
BT: Will mention later.
SB: Probably town so I don't care about him.
Conq: Conq is mai waifu cannot lynch.
BBM: Don't care about this guy.
Serela: Well he's dead now.
Affinity: Don't know. Might read later.
Myself: Probably town and ignoring for the most part as a result.

What is this I don't even. It does have townreads and such on it, but saying stuff like how he isn't reading a thing I'm saying or how he'll mention BT later and then says very little about how he reads "weird." That's it for that. Also this:

Quote from: Yoshino on July 26, 2013, 09:36:10 AM

At the end of the day, we have open ended suspicion once more from BT.
D3 comprises of ~vote bananas~.

##Unkill BT
##Kill Serious Bananas
I don't really know what I'm doing and this is L-1.

It was bad enough he was bashing on BT (who I believe is town partially because he hasn't given me reason to suspect otherwise and partially because of the whole "VM probably copped him and that's why he had a strong townread on BT" thing), he then goes and just sheeps the big wagon just like that. That's really suspicious.
I still need to reread Affinity and ActionDan (again). I trust BT and I kind of trust Shadoweh even though she's playing Obfuscation again. ^^;

Validon98 · « **Reply #554 on:** July 27, 2013, 05:30:28 PM »

Ugh, reading Affinity is sort of a null thing. Not sure what to think of him, although this post raises eyebrows:

Quote from: Affinity on July 26, 2013, 12:14:17 AM

Maybe Validon mixed up Raitiki and Serela. Oh well.

Actually, I'm a bit not sure if SB is the remaining scum. If he was, I would expect him to be more buddy-conscious and actually defend him or at least acknowledge him when almost everyone else was doing so. Then again, Serela and Raitiki have been playing suicidally so I don't know.

Will ##Kill: ActionDan for now. Details later.

So, uh, where's your details? Granted, I'm not entirely trusting of Dan right now, but still, if you're going to point fingers you might as well back it up with details. If you couldn't because of a IRL thing, fine, I understand, but if it wasn't you have explaining to do. Serious. Explaining. Other than that, though I haven't seen anything else that has really caught my eye from him. Currently reading null because I know he's pushed Raitaki but that one post makes me go "wait what."

Shadoweh · « **Reply #555 on:** July 27, 2013, 05:34:00 PM »

"I haven't seen evidence of a miller" I wonder if it's possible to fake being that oblivious. Anyways this cake is great it's so delicious and moist. I might talk more later.

Validon98 · « **Reply #556 on:** July 27, 2013, 05:41:11 PM »

Aaaaaaaaaand taking another look at ActionDan makes me go from reading him scum to reading him null. I still don't think he's town and I've somewhat only glanced through his (incredibly short) posts. His lack of really adding more information to the conversation bugs me a lot, but he had some amount of activity N1 so I'm going to drop the lurking reason. I guess he's just like this. ^^;

##Unkill

With that said, that means that I don't think it's him as much anymore. BT I trust. Shadoweh... I'm kind of iffy on if only because she's confusing as always and that's really no reason to brand her as either town or scum. Some of Dormio's stuff bugs me. Affinity is null in my eyes but I'm not entirely sure. So with that, my vote goes from ActionDan to...

##Vote: Dormio

inb4 Everyone jumps on me for voting Dormio. >_>;

Cut: I don't even know what you're saying anymore, Shadoweh. How can you say I am faking being oblivious of a role that doesn't even get revealed until after the end of the game? Remember, when Millers die, they show up as Villager. No one should know besides the mod if there is a miller or not. Speak sense, damnit!

ActionDan · « **Reply #557 on:** July 27, 2013, 05:41:59 PM »

Validon have you seen evidence of a godfather?

Validon98 · « **Reply #558 on:** July 27, 2013, 05:43:08 PM »

You mean someone who shows up as town no matter what? Not particularly... unless you're implying BT is one.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #559 on:** July 27, 2013, 05:44:11 PM »

Even if you're basing this on Epicmafia rules that aren't true elsewhere, I'm still perfectly justified to make fun of you. You should read the OP to figure out why.
Cut: :V:V:V:V:V:V:V

Validon98 · « **Reply #560 on:** July 27, 2013, 05:44:49 PM »

...OH. I GET IT NOW. Ahahahahahaha... why didn't I see it before. Good one, Shadoweh. ^^;

ActionDan · « **Reply #561 on:** July 27, 2013, 05:46:13 PM »

I really don't think that can be faked shadoweh.

But the set is 2 group scum, 1 traitor. And if scum, Validon is group scum so maybe he wasn't paying enough attention to the traitor flip

Validon98 · « **Reply #562 on:** July 27, 2013, 05:47:19 PM »

Quote from: ActionDan on July 27, 2013, 05:46:13 PM

But the set is 2 group scum, 1 traitor. And if scum, Validon is group scum so maybe he wasn't paying enough attention to the traitor flip

Where are you getting "2 Group Scum, 1 Traitor" from?

ActionDan · « **Reply #563 on:** July 27, 2013, 05:48:13 PM »

Validon98 · « **Reply #564 on:** July 27, 2013, 05:49:06 PM »

...See what? You're saying there's a traitor? I don't even know how you could know this unless the mod told you.

ActionDan · « **Reply #565 on:** July 27, 2013, 05:50:10 PM »

I am precisely saying there is a traitor.

And that the mod told me

Validon98 · « **Reply #566 on:** July 27, 2013, 05:51:40 PM »

Okay, I can't tell if you're lying to get my goat or you're being serious. It's like you and Shadoweh are having some sort of private conversation and are saying things only you two get. I'M SO CONFUSEEEEEEEED! ;~;

ActionDan · « **Reply #567 on:** July 27, 2013, 05:52:23 PM »

Are you really confused? why are you confused if you are?

Validon98 · « **Reply #568 on:** July 27, 2013, 05:54:08 PM »

Because I don't even know why you're saying there is a traitor! I honestly have no clue if there is one or not, and the way it sounds you're saying there is one. Yet I haven't seen evidence of one. But that doesn't mean I can disprove it exists. Damnit, Devil's Proof!
Okay maybe I should take a break from Umineko.

ActionDan · « **Reply #569 on:** July 27, 2013, 05:54:44 PM »

did the mod not tell you that at the start of the game their were two group scum and one traitor that's aligned with them but doesn't know who they are? You see that was open knowledge. And you are saying you don't know that?