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Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #270 on: August 15, 2013, 06:40:29 AM »
Cool story...

Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #271 on: August 15, 2013, 07:04:33 AM »
Yes, it is interesting.

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Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #272 on: August 15, 2013, 07:27:10 AM »
... Dafuq did I just read?

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Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #273 on: August 15, 2013, 01:52:31 PM »
... Dafuq did I just read?

An overly long post that was overly thought out.

^ I really like that post...

To add:
The Fragments of the Flying Vault in UFO also contain such powerful magic to affect the magics. Faith, Spell, and Life magic are absorbed into each pieces, and they also affect Power and Passive magic. Individually, they don't matter much, but when three fragments are put together, the magic activates, causing the fragment to absorb all power and passive magic nearby. By destroying the activated fragments, you can then release the Spell/Life magic trapped inside. Depending on the fragments, they also convert some of Power/Passive magics onto Life or Spell magic.

Meanwhile in TD, the spirits gather Faith, Spell, and Life magic inside themselves, which is why there are only Power and Point boxes.

In Fairy Wars, Life magic doesn't matter since Fairies are immortal, and the game is over when Cirno becomes unmotivated anymore. Cirno likes freezing a lot, so having a lot of stuff frozen makes her more motivated. However, unknown to herself, her ice can also absorb Power and Spell magic in the air, hence why she gets stronger/get more Bombs when she freeze lotsa stuff.


Yeah, I forgot about that and the PC-98 games. Well, I don't play the PC-98 games much, anyway, so I don't know the game mechanics.
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Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #274 on: August 16, 2013, 07:04:47 AM »
I wonder then how the DDC system fits into this.
Are there little bits of Spell and Life Magic that get compressed and turned into a fragment when all the Point and Power Magic around it pulls it to a single area? If that makes sense? And how would Marisa C in SA and Sakuya A in DDC bombs work? Power and Spell fragments get recovered when they don't get hit.

Back on the topic, this might sound kind of stupid, but is it ever stated that Sakuya can reverse time? I think I read something somewhere about explaining the mechanics of time manipulation but I'm not sure if it mentioned if Sakuya can actually reverse time.

Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #275 on: August 16, 2013, 07:23:14 AM »
It all but states that she cannot reverse time.

Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #276 on: August 16, 2013, 11:30:19 AM »
Raiko's power is to "ride on rhytm"
What does this mean, exactly?

Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #277 on: August 16, 2013, 11:40:26 AM »
Your guess is as good as ours. This sort of thing doesn't get fleshed out until she starts appearing in side materials.

ToyoRai

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Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #278 on: August 16, 2013, 11:44:05 AM »
I myself think that she has the ability to act in rhytm without any problem. Her two last Spellcards synch up with the BGM, so it is possible she is using her pwoers to fire the danmaku in the rtyhm of the song (or create a rtyhm of her own). Simply put, she can become one with the beat.

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Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #279 on: August 16, 2013, 11:45:13 AM »
In other words, you will never dance as well as Raiko.

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Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #280 on: August 16, 2013, 12:04:47 PM »
Now imagining Raiko VS Iku dance battle.

Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #281 on: August 16, 2013, 07:51:00 PM »
I see it as a possibility to make things happen by adjusting to the natural rhytm/resonance of the mentioned thing. Why we actually fight with Raiko in a thunderstorm? It's not the thunderstorms rhytm that Raiko adjusts to, it's RAIKO'S RHYTM, THAT CREATES THE STORM IN THE FIRST PLACE!. If it is like that, then Raiko is quite a powerful tsukumogami indeed.

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Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #282 on: August 17, 2013, 02:32:41 AM »
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Capable of riding any rhythm
The correct translation should be, "capable of making anything follow a rhythm" (unlike in English where "ride the rhythm" is a somewhat fancy expression, in Japanese 乘る is the standard verb in things like "following a rhythm".)

Now this is much more powerful and humorous.
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Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #283 on: August 17, 2013, 09:59:30 AM »
Ah! So in other words, she's the one you want to invite to your party. She'll make everyone a great dancer. Hell, maybe even the furniture and stuff will start dancing, Beauty and the Beast style.

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Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #284 on: August 17, 2013, 11:09:21 AM »
The correct translation should be, "capable of making anything follow a rhythm" (unlike in English where "ride the rhythm" is a somewhat fancy expression, in Japanese 乘る is the standard verb in things like "following a rhythm".)

Now this is much more powerful and humorous.

So is Malyszeq's theory correct or not? Apart from thunder what other things can she generate? Lol sorry I'm just curious because the initial translation of her power sounded too much of a joke for an EX boss
And then a sacked Sakuya told everyone that Flandre was one of her ex-bosses

Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #285 on: August 17, 2013, 11:22:56 AM »
Nue is an Ex-boss...

Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #286 on: August 17, 2013, 11:33:23 AM »
Hmm.. capable of making anything to go with a rhytm she creates. Almost like predicted. Suddenly Raiko seems more dangerous, I'd say on a level just a little below Yuyuko's ability. Let's say does a slow rhytm that your heartbeat catches, and goes on with it. Then she slows it almost to a halt, killing the victim... or whatever fancy thing that a rhytm can do (resonances are quite destructive).

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Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #287 on: August 17, 2013, 11:58:48 AM »
Similar to how Reisen can affect wavelengths.

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Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #288 on: August 18, 2013, 04:54:50 AM »
So in other words, Raiko is something like the pied piper? But I imagine it would be pretty funny if she could also blow up things by making them ride on a "boom".

What's the full extent of Seija and Sukuna's power though?  Can Seija like, reflect attacks directed at her or reverse intangible concepts like time, flow of liquid, etc. Sukuna's power on the other hand sounds quite a lot like alchemy, with the whole law of equaivalent exchange thing going on.
And then a sacked Sakuya told everyone that Flandre was one of her ex-bosses

Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #289 on: August 18, 2013, 05:01:57 AM »
Shinmyoumaru's power is like casting "Wish" in D&D. It can theoretically do anything, but if it's too storybreaking then the GM will cancel it out with an arbitrary penalty.

Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #290 on: August 18, 2013, 05:29:50 PM »
Sukuna's power somehow reminds me a lot of Puella Magi Madoka Magica...
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Wonder how a Witch version of Sukuna would be like

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Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #291 on: August 18, 2013, 08:57:07 PM »
Shinmyoumaru doesn't have a power other then being able to hold the mallet, right? It's the mallet we're talking about, right?

Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #292 on: August 18, 2013, 09:51:12 PM »
Making something follow a rhythm is like giving it a sort of structure so it may also be used as a random pattern countermeasure
Could it be considered as manipulating the time of an object or just manipulating the object itself?

Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #293 on: August 19, 2013, 04:55:42 PM »
Shinmyoumaru does not have any innate power, her only advantage is the ability to utilize the power of the Lucky Mallet. Without it, she's just a normal Kobito.

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Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #294 on: August 22, 2013, 07:20:39 PM »
You people think Wakasagihime's power should taken like it is said? As in, can we really say she actually becomes stronger while underwater? How can we be sure that it is said like that because most people see her outside the water and once she gets back in water she just seems stronger? Or maybe it is because she is just harder to beat underwater because most people then try to go after her, allowing her to kick their asses in her natural habitat?

Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #295 on: August 23, 2013, 04:00:47 AM »
Does danmaku work in water, anyway? I know you can use water as danmaku, but what about danmaku in water?

Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #296 on: August 23, 2013, 08:35:38 AM »
@Wakasagihime: You can't be sure that she is stronger in water, you just assume so. Kind of like anything in a profile, you assume it is true, unless mentioned otherwise elsewhere. Kind of like how can you be so sure Iku is a Oarfish? Its in her profile, so you assume it is true.

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Does danmaku work in water, anyway? I know you can use water as danmaku, but what about danmaku in water?

I don't see why not. If Kaguya can use food as danmaku against Mokou, and Marisa's stars are solid, I don't see why Danmaku can't be done under water.

Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #297 on: August 24, 2013, 03:33:23 PM »
I don't see why not. If Kaguya can use food as danmaku against Mokou, and Marisa's stars are solid, I don't see why Danmaku can't be done under water.
...what does those things have to do with my question?
Because you see, danmaku are basically flying objects. All the danmaku battle we've seen here take place in the air, which have different viscosity, density, etc than water. If danmaku were used underwater, wouldn't the danmaku be slowed down? Or if they're lighter than water, be pulled owards the surface? And how can you use water danmaku while underwater?

Unless the answer is just lolmagic

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Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #298 on: August 24, 2013, 11:03:50 PM »
The answer is "you don't have to think about those kinds of things because when it all comes down to it you can just say lolmagic"

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Re: Power of the ladies: How do they work?
« Reply #299 on: August 25, 2013, 02:03:01 AM »
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If danmaku were used underwater, wouldn't the danmaku be slowed down? Or if they're lighter than water, be pulled owards the surface? And how can you use water danmaku while underwater?

Yeah, but it doesn't mean Danmaku can't be done underwater. They may have to increase the speed of their projectiles to make up for the drop in speed. Or they will just use slower Danmaku and wall you in, while giving you an escape route. Though, some Touhous probably don't do that.