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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #90 on: April 18, 2013, 10:58:13 AM »
3 the most reasonable response yeah.


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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #91 on: April 18, 2013, 01:23:07 PM »
He must have killed someone, or committed some gross act of adultery. (1)
Look who's talking.  Look at that portrait and then tell me with a straight face that this guy is on our side.

Anyway, 3.

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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #92 on: April 18, 2013, 02:49:56 PM »
Bah, listening to our leaders has gotten us in trouble with another clan and a dead weaponthane.  I say 1.  Maybe the trickster has some competence.

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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #93 on: April 18, 2013, 05:18:26 PM »
I'll give our leaders one last chance to prove they can actually give good advice. I'll go with 3.

Hopefully at worst dude will just kill Dorasa and disappear into the night or something.
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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #94 on: April 18, 2013, 06:46:34 PM »
They think they know him. They know wrong.
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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #95 on: April 18, 2013, 07:45:36 PM »
I wish we had any idea whether forcing him to explain things will still have the possibility of letting him into the clan. Well, I'll just assume that it isn't the same as refusing him (since that is an option of itself) and go with 1 - Ask him why he was exiled. If he hasn't done anything absolutely horrible, he should  not have any problems answering.

Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #96 on: April 18, 2013, 08:05:49 PM »
[15:03:26] <~Whalesharkana> You know who should totally be the tiebreaker for Dragon Pass LP now? rdj! :D

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Let's go with 3.

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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #97 on: April 18, 2013, 09:56:46 PM »
#2 is the proper choice; we make him someone else's problem, and he owes us.

Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #98 on: April 19, 2013, 12:17:36 AM »

Surprise! I was going to ask him first the whole time, as a demonstration that sometimes events will let you do more than one thing. Usually this is if you start with an information-gathering option, though sometimes it'll also happen if one choice outright fails (not just goes poorly like when we sent warrior to help on that raid for a favor being called in), and a few events just have certain non-informational choices that just plain do give you more actions after.

I'm not going to make a habit of pointing them out though. ;) But do feel free to offer a sequence of options if you think it might be the case, or offer an "if asking says X, then Y, otherise Z", or still just always providing one thing, whichever way to vote you like! (Otherwise if such a thing happens I'll just go down the list by most votes and then use my judgement if I run out and still have options.)

... the information-gathering options usually just send you straight back to the main options, though...


Oh, because apparently asking first makes your weaponthanes sad. Good thing I backed up my virtual machine save state first. :V


Since just letting him stay at Dorasa's was the real winner.

Now we're in Dark season. It's the middle of winter and winter sucks. Any option that sends people outside of your own tula is likely to just straight-up fail because there's too much snow to get out. It makes a very good season to sacrifice in, though.


But first I build a watch tower because it's dirt-cheap and whether it helping you spot raids actually works or not, it's always the first thing to get destroyed when enemies try to destroy your fortifications, so getting one up early makes good protection for anything you build later.


After that I do sacrifice to Ernalda for mysteries, hoping to get Bless Crops. Preserve isn't horrible, at least, though it's not one I'm likely to actually use. Once we do get our footing (and I promise we're not as badly off as a some of you seem to think, even though the first few years are the hardest just because there's so much to do) we'll be rolling in too much food to care about spoilage.


A warrior of Urox from the Six Brothers appears in a rage, demanding that Orlkensor Bronzebones, the outlaw you took in last season, come out to fight him. "You have besmirched my honor, and must pay with your life," the Uroxi cries. Orlkensor is in your clan hall. He refuses to confront the man. "I have sworn a sacred vow to Ernalda that I will not harm him. And if we fight, one of us will surely die.

1. Ask Orlkensor why the Uroxi seeks him.
2. As the Uroxi why his honor is besmirched.
3. Demand that Orlkensor fight the Uroxi.
4. Suggest that they resolve their differences peacefully.
5. Use force to drive the Uroxi off.


If we offend the Uroxi, we could have trouble with all the Storm Bulls in Dragon Pass. (4)
Storm Bulls need to remember their place. (2, 4, 5)
After this is over, we should give gifts to the Uroxi. (Silly Harsaltar, the Uroxi do count as a faction in all the under-the-hood systems stuff, but they're not one we can deal with directly.)
Neither man is about to waver.
We must find the peaceful way. (4)
  Sometimes the bulls have to fight, and nothing else will do. (3)
Whew. For a second there, I thought he was after me. (2)

Another reason I was pleasantly surprised to see the Orlkensor event pop so early - it's a nice introduction to event chains. :V

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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #99 on: April 19, 2013, 12:28:10 AM »
God damn it Mosdorl why are you so suspicious

Also 5, Orlkensor is our bro now, we do not betray our bros.

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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #100 on: April 19, 2013, 12:29:31 AM »
Needs a 6: Put an arrow through the Uroxi's head and quietly hide is body all sneakylike, and when his brethren come searching, you just claim he never made his way here.

Either way, I am curious and would love to dig more. Ask the foo' what his beef is, and then see if they can't just share a cup of tea, kiss and make up.

And if they don't have tea, trying to discover it should distract both of them long enough for at least one of them to die of old age and all of us to not give any efs.

2, then if possible 4
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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #101 on: April 19, 2013, 12:29:48 AM »
I'm guessing with event chains 1 or 2 might give us some answers.  Depending on those I say we let em kill each other off 3 or just stab the jerk 5.

Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #102 on: April 19, 2013, 12:45:47 AM »
God damn it Mosdorl why are you so suspicious
Trickster~ :3

Needs a 6: Put an arrow through the Uroxi's head and quietly hide is body all sneakylike, and when his brethren come searching, you just claim he never made his way here.
That's secret murder, we don't do secret murder. We can totally kill people but we have to do it good and honest-like.

Unless they're foreigners. Then all bets are off.

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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #103 on: April 19, 2013, 12:51:27 AM »
Unless they're foreigners. Then all bets are off.

He ain't from Moordor, that much is certain~
Spoiler:
Let's roast his hide, eat him and then just tell his brethren he's busy err... fertilizing.
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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #104 on: April 19, 2013, 02:07:00 AM »
Can Clan Leaders have secret agendas that involve making a cup to become the sole Emperor of the Clan?
'Cause Mosdorl is really suspicious

Anyway, 2, then if possible 4, and if 4 doesn't work, 5.
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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #105 on: April 19, 2013, 02:35:27 AM »
Spoiler:
Familiar event chain is familiar

5 because :axe:

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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #106 on: April 19, 2013, 02:57:29 AM »
3, honorable combat is the only way to resolve such disputes!

Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #107 on: April 19, 2013, 03:48:40 AM »
God damn it Mosdorl why are you so suspicious

Also 5, Orlkensor is our bro now, we do not betray our bros.

Sounds about right to me. Seconding this.

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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #108 on: April 19, 2013, 06:03:14 AM »
Since Orlkensor surely won't talk 2 let's ask the other one first.  After that, 4 let's try to settle this peacefully.
5 only as a last resort. If it has to come down to killing, I guess we'd rather keep our new friend than let him be killed.

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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #109 on: April 19, 2013, 01:30:37 PM »
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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #110 on: April 20, 2013, 12:09:45 AM »

The most popular exact sequence was just going straight to driving him off, but at minimum asking questions first was more popular than not. (Trying to make, peace, though, fell just shy of making the list of attempts.) He injured two of our weaponthanes in the process but they healed up pretty much instantly, ha.

And now it's Storm season, the final season of the year. The weather's kinda all over the place in Storm season but not typically in such a way as to impede doing anything. Storm is the other major season for raids (though not to the same degree as Fire), in addition to being a season to do basically anything.


First I want to show off the trade screens just because I haven't this year and don't intend to actually use them. The main Trade screen gives us an overview - the game starts us off with a couple trade routes (which get us goods just for existing! the more trade partners we have, the more frequently our market will happen, but we can only sustain so many) and a treasure. Ol' Blacktail here helps us spawn some extra cows for a while but he is a living thing, so he'll keel over in a few years - we won't have to worry for a bit but it might be worth trying to sell/trade him off a while later for a more permanent treasure.


The Mission button brings up the menu to send off a trade mission. Everything here should be pretty self-explanatory, aside from the fact that if you choose to buy/sell treasures you can't buy/sell anything else.


Instead I'm going to send off a diplomatic mission to cash in a favor for some free cattle. We're far from in any dire situation on cattle, don't fret. We are just a little shy on oxen to plow the amount of fields I have, and it'd be nice to scoop them up now. I send our second-best bargainer on the job to ensure I have Sartark on the ring for Sacred Time - I'm fairly certain nobles injured or not present in the tula count as not on the ring at all for that purpose. (You send off diplomatic missions from the Relations screen, but I promise that it is boring as heck and all it's really good for is looking up the clan blurbs I have in the thread's second post.)


Then I pick us up some more weaponthanes. (It thinks we only have 11 right now because 3 of them are off with Kulbrast.)


Sometimes you get mini-events like this one (common when exploring or diplo/trading). They're all pretty dull and not really worth leaving up to a vote. I probably should have had him try to bargain though since his Combat is only Fair, but since I didn't send any gifts with him (I probably should have) I wasn't sure whether I could actually bargain or not. At least we didn't lose anything but the turn we spent sending him off.


Oh shush Engarna I'm gonna recruit more farmers as soon as I get a good chance to, calm down. (Our problem is more "too much fields" than "not enough dudes", which is the side of this problem you want to be on - I've still got enough people to feed the people I have, though not quite as comfortably as I'd like until we get some blessings set up and such.)


Also fairly common - updates on current events in the Pass that you can't do anything about and probably don't care about either.


Suddenly, Sacred Time! I'm genuinely surprised that between Fire and Storm seasons we didn't see at least one raid on us to show off the details of, but oh well. There's plenty of time for that later.


From now on every Sacred Time I'm gonna open up a vote to anything in particular you'd like to see me get done in the coming year. (But not to specific magic expenditures because that's tedious and dumb and leads to things like doing heroquests with no magic in Quests.)

In the absence of votes my general goals this year are likely to look something like:
- Keep getting the farming situation rolling (get more farmers, get more cattle, try get at least Bless Crops for blessings)
- Launch at least one raid (which will also help get cattle if successful)
- Possibly some basic war-related blessings (even if we don't attack, again, defense is important)
- Some exploration if we have time left (not sure where specifically)

The omens don't indicate anything in particular, either. :V

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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #111 on: April 20, 2013, 12:19:46 AM »
Hm...  Can we explore our own lands again or are they pretty much cleaned out?  If we can search our own place for goods that'd be nice.  If not search the lands of someone we can face punch and take goods.

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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #112 on: April 20, 2013, 12:24:45 AM »
Wait, we can vote for whatever, within reason?

Well then, since I shall gladly ignore the last part there...!

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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #113 on: April 20, 2013, 12:31:10 AM »
Hm...  Can we explore our own lands again or are they pretty much cleaned out?

There's piles and piles of stuff we've yet to find. Even after we find everything it's not a horrible idea to explore it every so often to murder some bandits in the face, anyway.

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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #114 on: April 20, 2013, 06:56:19 AM »
I support Iced's idea of more exploration within our own tula. Aside from that...

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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #115 on: April 20, 2013, 11:58:25 PM »
WE NEED MORE FARMS.

Also explore within the Tula. It's quick and can pay hella nice.

Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #116 on: April 21, 2013, 12:23:16 AM »
EDIT: Purvis we have plenty of farms. We have so many farms we don't have enough farmers and cattle for them. :V


Since exploring doesn't necessitate any particular magic expenditure and I was going to spend in War anyway, I even get to distribute magic how I would have just on my own!


... damnit Enerin are you really going to make me crop you a new portrait just a year in?

Nobles age up at the beginning of the year - right after Sacred Time. Each portrait has three ages. Enerin's pretty decently old for our society, but we're not in any pressing need to worry about her keeling over anytime too soon either - plus she's the only noble on our ring who's notably old in the first place and Plants experts tend to be pretty interchangable.


Anyway, I'll definitely make sure to get some exploring done this year, and I considered leading straight off with it, but I think first off I want some more farmers to get us more harvest. Everyone except "vagabonds and wanders" comes with kids, but as much as I complain about children, when I recruit farmers I tend to want as many at a time as I can, which means ticking off all the sources.

Farmer recruitment doesn't happen instantly though, and in the meantime...


A wounded warrior stumbles desperately into the clan hall, an arm outstretched in a silent plea for help. From the symbols he wears, you recognize him as a holy warrior of Urox the Storm Bull. He says he was ambushed by Chaos worshippers. After you tend to him, what do you do?

1. Don't even tend to him; tell him to seek help elsewhere.
2. Tend to his wounds, and increase patrols.
3. Heal him, then lend him warriors to fight against Chaos.
4. Let him stay as long as he wants.
5. See him on his way as soon as he's well.


Storm Bulls are not exactly lawless. But most of them feel that rules are for other people. (1, 5)
If we are too rude to him, he will make trouble. If we are too welcoming, his friends will come here, and make trouble. (5)
If we're nice to him, maybe he'll build a Storm Bull shrine here.
We have seen many ill omens and other signs of Chaos recently. (2, 3) (... we have?)
Storm Bull is brother to Orlanth. He is the bad wind. He is the smiter of Chaos, and the breaker of furniture.
  It is easy to be polite to the well-mannered. The true test is if one can be courteous to the rude. (5)
He looks like a jolly fellow, I don't see what you're all afraid of. (4)

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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #117 on: April 21, 2013, 01:17:46 AM »
5.

Also, Enerin really reminds me of Eirin.
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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #118 on: April 21, 2013, 02:21:32 AM »
2  Chaos bad.  Purge the heretic wherever it may be found.

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Re: Propitiating the Dread God Arengee - Let's Play King of Dragon Pass!
« Reply #119 on: April 21, 2013, 03:27:40 AM »
He looks like a jolly fellow, I don't see what you're all afraid of. (4)

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