Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!

[BT]

I guess that means spell practice version of that card is much harder compared to the original......*sigh

But I'll edit the description.

Yes that's why I'm still hyped over what I posted earlier.

[MTSranger]

DDC Extra clear, Reimu A
Got totally surprised and bomb spammed through survival :V
Oh, and am I the only one really really bad at musical notes? Both midboss and survival

Managed to reach 4.6 lives entering Raiko. Will have to watch other replays to see how to get moar.

[Blue]

Another DDC Normal clear, this time with ReimuA. I had more stage 3/4 deaths(well, I didn't die until Stage 5 with SakuyaA), but a lot less on stage 5/6. Ended up clearing with 3 lives and 1 bomb.

[Zengeku]

Captured all the spells in the game.

I am now starting to reach the conclusion that DDC isn't really all that good. In fact, it's pretty poorly made in many respects.

... Sorely disappointed. I guess Year 4 of waiting for a new Touhou game begins now.

Maybe it's time to leave Touhou behind.
Evidently, he doesn't know how to make a good game anymore.

[Formless God]

Isn't it just EoSD 2? What went wrong?

[Zengeku]

Dunno. Maybe I'm judging too early. Being depressed kinda means your head does funny things. :V However, there are a lot of things that seem overly ridiculous and character balancing is very bad. I think it's bad for now but maybe as better strats surface, it won't be that bad.

[Sahgren]

1cc'd IN on Hard. First Hard clear ever.  :toot:    Probably could've been a bit cleaner, I died 3 times on Kaguya and got through her last spell by using bombs to reset the streams, but I'll take it.

[Star King]

Dunno. Maybe I'm judging too early. Being depressed kinda means your head does funny things. :V However, there are a lot of things that seem overly ridiculous and character balancing is very bad. I think it's bad for now but maybe as better strats surface, it won't be that bad.

I saw some old posts from you talking about how you didn't like UFO that much. Pretty funny in hindsight

I guess what I'm trying to say with this post is you never know how your feelings may change with time. Or something.

[Zengeku]

You know, I've always hated new Touhou games from launch :V

So yeah, i've been doing a bit of thinking and I have decided not to write this off yet. I'll instead be patient, mess around with it and wait and see what people discover of strats. I'd also very much appreciate a patch fixing the bug because I like to play as SakuyaA and I can't really do that on Lunatic.

I can do it on Hard though so i just went through that and won with 4 lives left. Terrible run, my hand coordination was really fucked for some reason. I'll probably play Hard a bit more. It's not that hard but it's tough enough that it's not too easy and getting a clean run of it should probably take some effort and might be more fun. At least until she get's unshackled for Lunatic mode.

[Serela]

SakuyaA is kinda weird for some parts because she cannot kill an enemy quickly; so enemies WILL get shots off before she can kill it. It's pretty noticeable in stage 4 where the orbs -will- get their lasershoots off, while any other shottype can stop 'em >.o

She's really strong in other aspects though, so it's a a tradeoff.

It seems like MarisaA doesn't have much of an upside. Her bomb might be strong, but does that really matter? And she's just a forward focus like her B counterpart. As far as I can tell from testing in spell practice her shot really does do more damage up close, though (SakB doesn't). I'm not sure if it's enough to matter compared to, say, MarisaB straight damage output though. Hmmm. Maybe weird flamethrower mechanics have some kind of value. I'd have to actually try her out in practice more.

All the other shots seem like they have their own good values (even if SakuyaB's is just "Here is your godly scoring type because lolbomb, but it can't do much else"). NeedleReimu isn't -that- good but it combines Forward Focus and Homing, which has a good bit of merit in itself; Marisa's lack of range is a thing sometimes.

[Waahst]

A spur of the moment thing because I don't like practicing UFO.
Timed it out twice in about 100 attempts. About a third were <10s attempts (AKA would-be captures on any shottype), stopped by her shots changing direction midway during the screenflip. Very rude, though it doesn't always happen. Consistency and/or capture speed can be improved by incorporating more vertical movement, though having emphasis on horizontal movement is still plenty safe.  Arguably her easiest spellcard without a doubt though, especially with the homing shottypes. Wouldn't be too hard to get a perfect capture history with SakuyaA (I have no excuse), even!

[The Greatest Dog]

It seems like MarisaA doesn't have much of an upside. Her bomb might be strong, but does that really matter? And she's just a forward focus like her B counterpart. As far as I can tell from testing in spell practice her shot really does do more damage up close, though (SakB doesn't). I'm not sure if it's enough to matter compared to, say, MarisaB straight damage output though. Hmmm. Maybe weird flamethrower mechanics have some kind of value. I'd have to actually try her out in practice more.

I dunno, there are times when her shotgun damage can really outpace MarisaB enough to make a difference. A 11 second capture on stage 5 midboss spell? Seija's first and third boss cards are pretty susceptible to shotgunning as well. And the fact that her bomb is strong pretty much guarantees that you'll only use -one- bomb on any given pattern. Considering that MarisaB's bomb does leave you vulnerable and still doesn't deal the most fantastic damage, it's an -alright- tradeoff.

You just have to remember that you get three Dark Sparks per life.

[KuroArashi100]

I finally managed to beat DDC extra.
Seems like not much of an achievement though, looking at achievements from other people.

I did realize that an extra run doesn't have to be perfect in order to win from the extra boss so that's a good thing I suppose.
That cuts down a lot on frustration.

But 2 deaths and 2 bombs on the midbosses are still a few too many IMO.

[Formless God]

Dunno. Maybe I'm judging too early. Being depressed kinda means your head does funny things. :V However, there are a lot of things that seem overly ridiculous and character balancing is very bad. I think it's bad for now but maybe as better strats surface, it won't be that bad.

Well it's always been bad (Sanae in UFO? Marisa in nearly everything?). I'm just glad it didn't fuck up the game balance itself like Youmu did to TD.
Nonspells give fragments and you kinda need the spell card bonus now so there's no bullshitting out of boss fights like SA or TD.
The only bad things I could think of are overpowered bombs and too much health on some stuff.

[ARF]

Timed out the DDC stage 5 final spell card 3 times in row on lunatic! About 16-17 timeouts total now, such a funny, silly gimmick :3

[Zengeku]

ARF, NMNB Stage 5 with ReimuB/SakuyaB now!

[ARF]

ReimuB/SakuyaB

Nope.

[BT]

ARF is the healthy kind of crazy.

[Zengeku]

He might not even be crazy. I can easily see people finding this gimmick amusing if they aren't worried about getting to the boss on LNB attempts with 8 lives and leaving it with 2.

[Formless God]

The only bullshit one is the first. Second is a no-vert which I assume all of us are already used to. The final one is actually very fair; it plays differently from the other two too. I say it's a pretty

Spoiler:

fun

pattern

[Jaimers]

The final spell might actually be her easiest spell once you know what to do.
It's also extremely fun to dodge once you do.

The first is doable but it gets stupid if the RNG screws you over and it spams you with a ton of diagonal moving bullets.
The second ain't that bad no.

[BT]

Funny that I find the first the easiest as an individual who has played each card maybe five times. Interesant.

[Jaimers]

Okay yeah the first card is the hardest by far.

DDC NMNB stage 5 boss lunatic.

[Zengeku]

Captured Seija's first spell 5 times in a row  :3 - SakuyaA is so good

Capture rate is at a pretty shitty 31/53 though. Time to mess with her other attacks for a bit.

[BT]

I find the second spell impossible.

What the fuck.

I switch from ReimuB to SakuyaA and get it on the first shot.

Why am I surprised.

[Zengeku]

Okay, back from messing with the 2nd spell. 26/52 captures. I find this harder than the first i think. Sure it's just no-vert but it's no vert with things coming from above and below you at the same time and at the top of the screen which is very convoluted to me.

[BT]

Yeah I'd say it's harder definitely.

At least the first is just regular read-n-dodge minus the "new" controls, you can avoid a lot of the bullets if you abuse vertical movement as much as possible.

I'll admit that I'm starting to see the fun in this boss, though not looking forward to getting used to three different perspectives in one boss.

[Zengeku]

And I tried the 3rd card and I think I should just be buried alive.

12/50 captures. I didn't think such levels of retarded was possible.

[Lord Scalgon]

Not really an accomplishment, but anyway, I know I already pulled this accomplishment yesterday and posted it that day, but...

I don't even know why my (DDC stage 6 lunatic spell practice) video is re-posted, but...

(The uploader is different, not me...sadly we can't even comment on it, either.  I don't even speak Russian.  This is the original.)

[Sage Ω (Ultima)]

Got my EX Clear for DDC. It only took 3 days. I think I'm getting better.