Author Topic: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!  (Read 200775 times)

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #420 on: May 28, 2013, 07:29:10 PM »
After a year or two ever since I started playing Touhou, I 1cced EoSD. On Normal. XD;

I know this isn't a really big accomplishment, but it is really big to me... I always struggled with Remilia. D:

NOW IS TO ACTUALLY BEAT AN EXTRA MODE BOSS;;

Normal mode brethren! I just recently managed to beat her myself. It definitely feels like a step up.

I can't deal with Flandre at all... Good luck to you on that.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #422 on: May 28, 2013, 08:43:53 PM »
My two goals for Marisa in TD are finally done and dusted - 800m Easy and 1.5b Normal!

Time to come up with some new goals.

Congratulations to everyone!

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #424 on: May 29, 2013, 04:38:12 AM »
At last, Embodiment of Scarlet Devil--Reimu A--hard clear. Down to the last life with no bombs.

I am mentally exhausted, but it feels so good...

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #425 on: May 29, 2013, 04:43:30 AM »
Aah, it feels so good to get back into Touhou again. The thrill of puzzling out strategies for new spell cards has reignited the fire in my heart! :D I don't have a really fabulous replay to show for it yet, but I can do all non-Kagerou stuff pretty well, and I think I have a good strategy for the two cards I have yet to capture (midboss and final). I cannot WAIT for the full version this time.
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #428 on: May 29, 2013, 05:39:36 PM »
But it did 70% of damage and after it did 30% =o
practice thought it was a full combo, and that's good enough for me :V

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #429 on: May 30, 2013, 12:28:51 AM »
practice thought it was a full combo, and that's good enough for me :V

Actually, practice mode doesn't consider it a full combo, it's just that Nitori didn't recover health in between hits. Check the combo counter under Miko; it resets and starts a new count for the sword slash.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #430 on: May 30, 2013, 02:33:07 AM »
Well it happened. Friend cleared PCB without continues, AND captured Resurrection Butterfly in the process. Back to back miracle nights. It is a good week for Touhou.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #431 on: May 30, 2013, 06:11:28 AM »
Welp, just got a Normal 1cc of TD with both Sanae and Youmu in the space of about 3 hours...

I found out that at full power, Youmu's charge slashes cover a huuuuge part of the screen.

Also, I cleared the DDC trial with all six shot types on Normal; five of them in one sitting. It's what happens when I have 1 and a half hours and nothing better to do...
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #432 on: May 30, 2013, 06:21:43 AM »
Oh, while I was practicing today I managed to get a 1DNB run of SA Stage 5 (death to Cat's Walk, duh), and I also managed to time out Byakuren's first spell.

No replay for either because I feel I'll get the stage 5 perfect at some point and the timeout of Byakuren's first spell was then proceeded by a game over on Magic Milky Way (yes, in practice mode). To be honest timeouts aren't a particularly interesting achievement either so meh.

Sahgren

Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #433 on: May 30, 2013, 06:59:30 AM »
Finally 1CCed TD on Normal myself. That felt a little... lacking. Miko just didn't feel as epic a fight as Remilia had.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #434 on: May 30, 2013, 07:11:38 AM »
Hmm... how much of an accomplishment is this?


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Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #435 on: May 30, 2013, 08:51:20 AM »
Developing and contributing to early routes is something several superplayers give credit and gratitude for. Obviously early stuff will be unoptimal, but people will look into the routes and optimize them later. - Sometimes thanking the person who made them in the first place.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #436 on: May 30, 2013, 08:59:09 AM »
I went crazy with grazing spots right when the demo came out for that reason. :V

I'm still wondering if there's a way to graze the first boss's finale effectively. Obviously not for scoring because you're better of killing it but it's gotta be interesting grazing that one.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #438 on: May 30, 2013, 09:07:15 PM »
Newbie to playing the game here. Please don't hurt me. :V 

1cc'd IN Easy with the Border Team. Hooray!

Baby steps, baby steps...

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #439 on: May 30, 2013, 10:28:03 PM »
Newbie to playing the game here. Please don't hurt me. :V 

1cc'd IN Easy with the Border Team. Hooray!

Baby steps, baby steps...
Well, everyone starts somewhere, so keep playing and you'll be doing great soon enough.

Granted, my first 1cc was a Normal 1cc of EoSD, but still...

Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #440 on: May 31, 2013, 01:13:48 AM »
SA Lunatic No Bombs 1cc. I really didn't expect this run to clear. 2 lives into stage 5, 2 and 2/5 lives into stage 5, 1 and 1/5 lives into stage 6, and I cleared with 2 extra lives despite going into Okuu with only 2/5 of a life. ... Now that I think about it, does that mean I perfected Okuu in this run? I would check, but replay desync and all. Wow damn I haven't been this excited in a while, which is weird since I usually don't get excited over achievements that I get quickly.

I would do UFO next, but I'm not good enough at Shou and Byakuren yet to clear despite being able to get to stage 5 with 7 lives. So in that case, what's a good order to No Bomb the games in?

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #441 on: May 31, 2013, 01:40:56 AM »
I think that's a NMNB Okuu fight. Congrats, SA LNB is pretty tough in my opinion.
You should try EoSD or MoF next. I would recommend EoSD because I find it very fun to play. And use ReimuB, she's the best.
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EoSD - random fun. Stage 1-3 very easy. Interesting shot-types vs difficulty. Example: MarisaA has easier Remilia but hard Patchy / ReimuA has easier Patchy but harder stage 5. ReimuB seems all evened out and MarisaB sucks, don't use her for NBs.
PCB - memorization. Learn or be left in the dust. MarisaA/ReimuB are pretty good. Another decent shot is SakuyaB. You have so many lives in PCB.
IN - don't know, never cleared NB, although I've come close. Choose finalA if you have to.
MoF - practice makes consistency! Easiest game to get good at. Memorization plus some intense dodging at times (PWG).
SA - I cleared this NB without much practice. Memorizing routes I guess.
UFO - the first three stages can be consistently done if you put enough time. However, I don't want to put in time, so I haven't 1cc'd UFO with bombs yet.
TD - just trance in the right spots this NB is easy. NBNT in theory is easy although stupid things always happen.

note: I find it better to focus on one game if you want to go for a serious goal rather than giving it one try every once in a while. And yes, do restart a lot. Try and limit your death count from stage 1-3 to one.
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #442 on: May 31, 2013, 02:02:30 AM »
Congrats Tsym!!

Desync is avoided by not starting the replay from stage 6 and not fast fowarding during stage 6 if you're watching from before it, so starting from stage 5 and fast forwarding until just before Orin's last spell finishes is the fastest way to watch a non-desync'd stage 6.  (Unless you knew that already, haha  :derp:)

I honestly can't give good advice on what to no-bomb next, but best of luck to you!  :D
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #443 on: May 31, 2013, 02:46:59 AM »
SA Lunatic No Bombs 1cc. I really didn't expect this run to clear. 2 lives into stage 5, 2 and 2/5 lives into stage 5, 1 and 1/5 lives into stage 6, and I cleared with 2 extra lives despite going into Okuu with only 2/5 of a life. ... Now that I think about it, does that mean I perfected Okuu in this run? I would check, but replay desync and all. Wow damn I haven't been this excited in a while, which is weird since I usually don't get excited over achievements that I get quickly.

I would do UFO next, but I'm not good enough at Shou and Byakuren yet to clear despite being able to get to stage 5 with 7 lives. So in that case, what's a good order to No Bomb the games in?


Congrats on the SA LNB! Definitely a fun game to NB in my opinion.

As for the order of NBs, I'd say just go for the games you like the most first. But if you want my opinion:

EoSD - EoSD LNB is one of the more challenging games to No Bombs in my opinion. The randomness and low set of lives makes for some pretty interesting challenge, but if you have a good grip of the game, it's definitely doable. With how crazy the game is, you never know what's gonna happen in an EoSD LNB. (Unless you've managed to tame it and get consistency, of course!)

PCB - PCB LNB is what I would recommend the most. The border system, combined with many lives makes this game the easiest to no bomb in my opinion. Of course, for some extra challenge, you could add in a "No Manually Broken Borders" Clause in order to spike up the challenge. (Or, if you're weird, you could add a No Borders Broken clause too, but it might become slightly stressful)

IN - IN is a unique game to LNB because of the variety of shots and options. I find a lot of the game itself appears to be static, (though there are a lot of random moments in the game as well). If you have a good grip with this game, it could definitely be your next target.

MoF - MoF LNB is probably among my favorite games to LNB. Stage 4 is definitely tricky (and it can also be tricky to get NM stages 1-3 down consistently), but taking out the bombs in the survival challenge definitely makes things interesting. While you have the same amount of resources as in an EoSD LNB, in my opinion this game is easier to LNB than EoSD.

UFO - UFO LNB is an interesting game to toy around with because of the UFO system. I would suggest making a UFO route geared towards reds. UFO LNB probably gives you the most lives to work with in all games (I think you can get up to around 15 mistakes, 16 or more if you're good with UFOs). However, I would personally still list this as the hardest game to LNB despite the number of lives you get. I find it very easy to die everywhere in random places (even as early as stage 2). The general difficulty of the bosses and stages makes lives less valuable in this game, as you get so many, and can lose so many easily in repetition. (I find chain deaths are more common in this game than in others, but maybe that's just because I find it harder to get consistency in UFO than in other games) But that's just from my personal experience, and that doesn't mean it will apply to others. I find the most important part of this game is to get consistency with bosses (ESPECIALLY SHOU, who will most likely be the last determiner of how many lives you get at Byakuren, unless you die in the stage 6 portion)

TD - TD is an option. The Trance system will most likely get you the same amount of lives you usually get in a vanilla run. LNB really isn't that popular in this game, as most people prefer to just remove the trance system in general. NBNT will add more more interesting challenge, and reduce the amount of mistakes you can make, as well as parts in stages you can normally cheese (like the end of stage 5).

Honestly, I'd say go for the games you have the most consistency in. As for me, I went in chronological order (minus TD, which I did before I did UFO).

If I had to order up the games from easiest to hardest (keeping in mind this is just my opinion, not a fact), I would say: PCB, SA, TD, MoF, IN, EoSD, UFO



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Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #444 on: May 31, 2013, 03:25:50 AM »
people are telling things tsym probably already knows. so I will just say do EoSD next. it's was a fairly easy LNB, imo. Sure, my run sucks, but that's because fuck remilia. EoSD's randomness makes it a fun LNB that doesn't require much memo. it's the perfect thing. you could try PCB otherwise. if you find EoSD too hard for some reason.
I don't really have that much experience with windows LNBs, I suppose. if you don't rule ot pc-98 as a whole, you should probably try MS. it's also fairly easy.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #445 on: May 31, 2013, 03:52:45 AM »
Do PoDD LNB. You know you want to.

Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #446 on: May 31, 2013, 07:16:26 AM »
Oh jeez thanks for the listings Denpa and Minogame. I think I'll do PCB next because I've never really gotten into it and never learned like 75% of the patterns due to how many free passes the game gives you between resources and borders. I'm personally dreading EoSD and MoF because I don't feel that I can get good enough at those games to do it without requiring some major head bashing over stupid mistakes.

Also Zil: Ha ha. The day that that happens will be the day that I actually get good at random dodging (aka never. Also a big reason why EoSD and MoF will be hard)

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #447 on: May 31, 2013, 07:37:09 AM »
I've only done EoSD, GFW (4 times each for those two) and PoDD LNB, and I can confirm that EoSD makes the most sense out of those. PoDD and GFW are a bit redundant to play with that condition (unless you're going for a "Perfect" in GFW) which I suppose is the reason why nobody plays them.

If random dodging is hard, PCB or IN would make the most sense to do next.

You can also remove charges from PoFV for a similar kind of run.

Congrats, btw.

Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #448 on: June 01, 2013, 08:37:32 AM »
Here are all my accomplishments:
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments Thread 20: Shut up and take my Graze!
« Reply #449 on: June 01, 2013, 04:55:26 PM »
So Marine Benefit just released Mikoto's Omniverse cards. They're all timeout cards, and they put the IN Last Word timeout cards to complete and utter shame.

I managed to capture Sanae's card (and Marisa's, but I haven't recorded that one yet).

Oh, and if someone knows how to do Reimu's card, please tell me, because I have absolutely no idea what the hell I'm supposed to be doing in that one.