Author Topic: DEFCON Mafia (Night 2, DEFCON 2)  (Read 57089 times)

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #840 on: March 25, 2013, 12:36:16 AM »
NNR claimed treason and I look at HW's plan and what role was he even supposed to choose? His slot in the list is empty and I didn't see him mentioned in any addendums
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-cut- yeah.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #841 on: March 25, 2013, 12:38:27 AM »
Day 2, DEFCON 2
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Serela (3): BT, ActionDan, Shadoweh
NekoNekoRex (1): Serela
Raikaria (2): rawr, Dormio
Shadoweh (1): NekoNekoRex
rawr (1): PX
PX (2): Zakeri, Raikaria

Not Voting (1): Massaca

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.
Deadline is in 3.5 hours.


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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #842 on: March 25, 2013, 12:39:25 AM »
First pick of what? Who to lynch? Role?
Oh right, sorry, roles. But it doesn't matter now because you answered that.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #843 on: March 25, 2013, 12:42:36 AM »
Raikaria, have you considered your problem with me is that you're reading my posts as 100% serious, even when I say things like WOW THE DOC CLAIMING IS AWESOME GOOD JOB GUYS!


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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #844 on: March 25, 2013, 12:43:53 AM »
Massaca buddy, you need to vote again. We're down to the wire, pick a side so people know where you stand.


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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #845 on: March 25, 2013, 12:45:31 AM »
Day 2, DEFCON 2 - Game Event

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #846 on: March 25, 2013, 12:46:08 AM »
Was waiting cause I'm definitely still here and watching. Anyway:
##Vote: Serela

Do you guys think the doc will or would have matter(ed) on night 4?

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #847 on: March 25, 2013, 12:50:35 AM »
Me/Shadoweh/Dormio/NNR claimed treason. Scum -does- have the roleblocker, probably the tracker too, and the cop assuming Shadoweh didn't gimmick!lie, and then sub on sk??? SK doesn't want any of those other roles I think, and Dormio is town so. Shouldn't be any extra nukes apart from sub because scum have roleblocker and the other 3 people who called treason I think are town which means all the roles must really be stolen and not liar scum nukes.

NNR is partially scum to me just from process of elimination.

Gee I sure am wasting a lot of time not rereading NNR and trying to puzzle role stuff that really probably doesn't matter a lot!

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #848 on: March 25, 2013, 12:57:50 AM »
Wow all these psuedowagons are pretty awful and I'm tempted  to not participate in any of them unless it's to ensure a lynch.

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NNR is partially scum to me just from process of elimination.
This makes me frown though. Where is the math?
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #849 on: March 25, 2013, 01:01:47 AM »
Yes I was supposed to get Roleblocker for godknowswhy since it's the dumbest role in this setup. Apparently that makes me scum just for being forced to choose it and not getting it?
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #850 on: March 25, 2013, 01:10:20 AM »
Where did my "Not terrible" read on Serela go anyway? Did it die when IHNN got lynched? Where is the scumhunting from Serela? Why do his votes look so lazy (lol that Rawr vote)? Why would he neglect to read me the whole game and then go "oh so I guess NNR is scum by PoE ##VOTE"? It's D2, you shouldn't be PoEing anyone at this point. Why is this game so bad?

Yeah, I take back what I said, I'll more eagerly get behind a Serela lynch for deadline. Shadoweh hopefully die painfully tomorrow anyway.
##Unvote
##Vote: Serela

I'm not going to support any other wagons unless Shadoweh gets a miracle votepile.
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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #851 on: March 25, 2013, 01:18:14 AM »
NNR:There are 4 people I don't have town reads on. ActionDan, Rawr, You, and Massaca. Even then I think Massaca is more likely to be an SK then scum, and I'm questioning my rawr read now that he's claimed Doc due to how I puzzled out the role stuff, although I wouldn't rely on that as a reason he shouldn't get killed at some point because ~*~roleshens are silly~*~.

NNR called treason so scum can use roleblocker without being called out for it. (Unrelated, but Shadoweh would probably just say she's cop if she was scum >_> She'd be able to get away with murder since not dying at night would be explained by doc and being cop in the first place wouldn't be suspicious)

Complaining about being vanilla d1 despite being a vig which is a preeeetty powerful role in itself, which is weird (especially considering the alternative was him being a roleblocker, which is a questionable town pr, and he calls it useless to town in the same post)

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I still think you're scum though, you've been bending a lot of your reads to fit the best-fitting perspective since the game started. Going from "Dan is SK" to "I thought about it and he's actually scum" is fishy. And that's only one example of you doing that.
HW case is what???

Reaction to HW saying he's cop is really weird
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If you want to lynch PX so badly name a reason he's scummy?
Yes, HW turned out to be lying, but while this completely ridiculous gambit was still playing out how is "because I am a cop and got a guilty on him" not a good reason? I mean, sure, if you think HW's scum (NNR did) that means you distrust the weird cop claim from nowhere that makes no sense, but I can't understand -this- kind of reaction to it at all. It's like "Okay you're blatantly lying and you're scum and I'm voting you, but now try to convince me why your target is scum" which doesn't even make sense from a cautious town mindset because cop?

Not saying he should have followed the crazy cop, I just mean that if it's so obviously a lie to him and HW is scum then this reaction is really weird IMO

I also dislike NNR's d2 vote after HW, Shadoweh
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I caught that quote too when I reread just now, and Shadoweh's response sounds like he knows more then he should.
Shadoweh sounds like she knows more then she should by thinking Massaca would be a likely NK? It's a silly statement, but this kind of opinion seems really reaching.

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Hey Massaca I know that you're enjoying your Public Relations campaign but who do you think is scum? Where is your vote?
Personally I'm still a bit suspicious of you, considering your reads are a total 180 from HW's line of thinking, but I still want to see where the priorities lie.
"HW was super scummy! But I'm only a -little- suspicious of you, even though I think you're questionable yourself because you have different reads then HW." I think everything is wrong with the stuff I pointed out in my loose interpretation. :C

OKAY THERE WE GO I'M HUNGRY I WANT DINNER.

People please weigh in opinions because we only have a few hours left and no one is even at half the required votes to be lynched.
cut by that changing but still

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #852 on: March 25, 2013, 01:25:23 AM »
Posting in the middle of class so screw you if I've got some stuff wrong but I'm going completely off memory here though that's what I do most of the time anyway so I don't really know if there will be a big difference but I guess the main difference will be that I'm making this long run on sentence and I don't really know what I was trying to say here anymore so whatever let's just post what I was going to in the first place okay?

Anyway.

NNR: What do you think of Raikaria anyway.
Pretty sure you said a while ago that you would read him but I don't think you ever did.
In addition, you've flopped pretty hard on him during D1 so yeah.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #853 on: March 25, 2013, 01:41:12 AM »
Raikaria, have you considered your problem with me is that you're reading my posts as 100% serious, even when I say things like WOW THE DOC CLAIMING IS AWESOME GOOD JOB GUYS!

Well maybe you shouldn't say stuff that can give the wrong impression?

I find Serela's post on NNR interesting, however, I want to see NNR's response before I come to any conclusions. Better to see both sides of the coin.


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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #854 on: March 25, 2013, 01:42:00 AM »
l2sarcasm.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #855 on: March 25, 2013, 01:43:29 AM »
Hum. I'm starting to feel less confident, but I don't see Raikaria or NNR hitting the required votes still. Sereley is currently at L-1 though. NNR is hoping I die painfully tomorrow, jokes on him because I'm still nuking him first. :)


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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #856 on: March 25, 2013, 01:47:21 AM »
Shadoweh there is two and a half hours left you should totally vote NNR with me.

Or alternatively we can -both- go vote Raikaria and then Raikaria will be L-2! D:
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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #857 on: March 25, 2013, 01:48:34 AM »
Raikaria at l-2 with 2 and a half hours left is completely realistic. :c
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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #858 on: March 25, 2013, 01:57:51 AM »
Day 2, DEFCON 2
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Serela (5): BT, ActionDan, Shadoweh, Massaca, NekoNekoRex
NekoNekoRex (1): Serela
Raikaria (2): rawr, Dormio
rawr (1): PX
PX (2): Zakeri, Raikaria

Not Voting: No one

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.
Deadline is in 2.25 hours.


On tue un homme, on est un assassin. On tue des millions d'hommes, on est un conqu?rant. On les tue tous, on est un dieu.
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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #859 on: March 25, 2013, 02:00:25 AM »
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NNR: What do you think of Raikaria anyway.
Pretty sure you said a while ago that you would read him but I don't think you ever did.
In addition, you've flopped pretty hard on him during D1 so yeah.
I thought I made it clear I thought Raikaria was very high on my town reads but I guess I didn't after all?

Raikaria is town and I'm going to be super annoyed if Raikaria or PX get lynched.
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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #860 on: March 25, 2013, 02:01:13 AM »
I'm about to pastebin my entire thoughts qt as a dumb stunt

I have permission to do this

INCOMING
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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #861 on: March 25, 2013, 02:04:14 AM »
You know in a game where you can listen in on the scum qt pasting from QT's should be illegal. <_<
You first Sereley.


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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #862 on: March 25, 2013, 02:06:02 AM »
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but now try to convince me why your target is scum" which doesn't even make sense from a cautious town mindset because cop?
It's because HW's pushing was so patently ridiculous. First he pushes PX for no reason, then he blithely ignores PX's posts against him, then he makes that stupid gambit. It all adds up to brain pain, which is why I've been holding the HW read over Massaca for so long, HW is just so  bad

It's even worse because he did the same thing on me. He held a scum read over my head but when I decided to retaliate HW goes apeshit on me and throws down a vote. It's just so pointlessly reactionary and over-the-top. Why wouldn't I make a point of it?
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #863 on: March 25, 2013, 02:07:17 AM »
so this is probably a silly idea but I figured people might think it'd be hard to fake or something I wouldn't bother doing as scum or whatever

http://pastebin.com/dsu4aGqy

doesn't hurt, anyway
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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #864 on: March 25, 2013, 02:09:53 AM »
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"HW was super scummy! But I'm only a -little- suspicious of you, even though I think you're questionable yourself because you have different reads then HW." I think everything is wrong with the stuff I pointed out in my loose interpretation. :C
Okay, somebody tell me what I'm supposed to think here. Is keeping the scumread from HW's side of the slot the right thing to do or should I throw it out for Massaca's play? Apparently I'm getting criticism doing either and it's stupid that having anything to do with the Failsafe Slot is apparent scuicide.
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

Serela

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #865 on: March 25, 2013, 02:12:06 AM »
If your scumread is powerful (which is apparently was), it shouldn't be insignificant enough to suddenly vanish because the replacement made a post that looks nice. -especially- since you even said the replacement himself has reasons he looks bad. Not only that, but I think Massaca having different reads then HW is a completely irrelevant reason to think him suspicious.
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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #866 on: March 25, 2013, 02:17:35 AM »
Not that I already point it out, but:

Fuck HW, I'm invoking Micro Madness II meta and disregarding the Om of the Nom of this game (Spoilers: It's Huh What) and only taking the posts of The Shadoweh (Spoilers again: It's Massaca) into consideration.

Somehow that will make logical sense since it worked in that game and it will work here.
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #867 on: March 25, 2013, 02:22:48 AM »
* Dormio spits drink all over Serela.

What the fuck is that paste supposed to do? Make me vote you?

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #868 on: March 25, 2013, 02:23:09 AM »
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My read isn't flipped. Shadoweh's recent general posting has made Shadoweh more town, and I have at least 3 people I would rather see lynched over Shadoweh. Which is why I'm not pushing. I'd much, much, much, rather see PX, ActionDan, or DrRawr lynched.

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/sarcasm

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PX > Shadoweh [Due to the Doc comment] > Rawr > Serela/NNR > Me

##Unvote
##Vote Raikaria


Also, does it really matter if cop is claimed? I mean, for one, confirmation of role =/= confirmation of alignment, ESPECIALLY since in this game everyone chose their role. Second, there's a roleblocker. Shit doesn't matter. Third, lynch Rawr.

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Re: DEFCON Mafia (Day 2, DEFCON 2)
« Reply #869 on: March 25, 2013, 02:24:05 AM »
Okay, maybe it -would- hurt to post it >_>

* Serela  drips and sniffles

Also, not me over me. Shadoweh, with PX we now have Raikaria at L-1 if you switch votes.
##unvote ##Vote Raikaria
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