Author Topic: DOTA Kingmaker Mafia (SCUM WIN) (Read 27075 times)

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #270 on:** February 24, 2013, 08:48:50 PM »

listposting for fun and convenience

Hero - i think wrathing him is a waste unless we want to be absolutely safe. yeah he's trolling the game but he does it in a way that draws attention to himself instead of making himself forgettable. there's no reason for him to even do this as scum WIFOMing when staying under the radar has worked for him in the past anyway.

Polaris - I think he's town who got fed up with lurkers, don't really want to gank him.

rawr - don't really see a problem with him aside from low postcount. i basically agreed with his px case 100% and thought his content looked pretty legit

Shadoweh - I feel like she should be town but she looks kinda apathetic? Shadoweh why did you not try and convince Conq to shoot one way or the other D2, your Polaris vote just kinda sat there. may or may not support gank depending on how she justifies this

Edible - why immediately gun for rawr when you say you want to attack lurkers? Seems like you're going on "this name out of a hat hasn't posted much, he must die" rather than what's there or not there when they post since rawr's actual post was solid enough that I dunno why you'd threaten him over PX and Hero at this point. Kinda Scummy imo though you're obviously not dying today.

PX - scummiest lurker alive. rawr's D2 vote was pretty solid like i said and compared to hero / rawr he doesn't draw much attention to himself when he does post.

Amra - bugs me atm. check out this post.

Quote from: Amra on February 22, 2013, 06:20:52 AM

I want to say Polaris looked like he was setting up some sort of hit list by grouping us together and that could be used for ANY number of purposes, but that was already pointed out so welp.

Is it scummy or not? If so, why can't you just say you agree with it?

Quote from: Amra on February 22, 2013, 06:20:52 AM

it's a little weird but now I'm looking at PX funny for voting Polaris solely on the basis of him lynching lurkers, but makes a good point that polaris sorta did give up on me super fast after I spoke up.

"X is kinda scummy, but Y" is classic scum!Serela and not any townier when other people do it. Also for the amount of support he gives the points on Polaris, Amra doesn't seem to actually want to lynch Polly that much.

This is just a sample but his posts have a lot of filler and side comments that don't really matter which is basically what Edible was poking my playerslot earlier but worse because BT was actually trying to analyze (also: fuck you if you believe in the amish tell). I think he's more likely to be newbscum struggling to post valid opinions than newbtown struggling to create them, since as town there's no need to be apprehensive about stating whether you agree with something or not!

despite all this I want PX to die the most, the Dormio disconnect is telling and the Polly vote was super weak when up to that point PX had been bitching about lurkers a lot too. orrr alternately I guess we could wrath PX for being a lurker pos then gank Amra. I'm down for that. ##WrathOfGod: PX ##Vote: Amra

Edible · « **Reply #271 on:** February 24, 2013, 09:02:26 PM »

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Edible - why immediately gun for rawr when you say you want to attack lurkers? Seems like you're going on "this name out of a hat hasn't posted much, he must die" rather than what's there or not there when they post since rawr's actual post was solid enough that I dunno why you'd threaten him over PX and Hero at this point. Kinda Scummy imo though you're obviously not dying today.

Because you and I came to the exact same conclusion today re: hero, and I had my wrath vote on rawr yesterday. Rawr's post was brought about only by direct threat of pressure after spending absolutely zero time on the game through d1 and d2; no such pressure was brought about on PX. In addition, since most/all of the lurkers have posted feeble excuses for their lack of presence, I felt rawr's excuses were the weakest. Besides, rawr has had ample opportunity to post today and still has not (which, I suppose, is also true of px).

I should note that there's nothing preventing you guys from wrathing the guy with the gun (i.e., me), if you want them dead. I can still get my shot in since I'd just be modkilled at the end of the day.

Otherwise I'd really like one of the lurkers - or someone - to get wrathed today. No sense in town passing up a free kill.

Polaris · « **Reply #272 on:** February 24, 2013, 09:11:46 PM »

##WrathOfGod: PX

huh what convinced me about Hero so I'm changing my wrath vote to PX mainly because of his (and Edible's, I guess) reasoning. I think wrathing PX could be more productive today. Nothing else to comment on right now :X

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #273 on:** February 24, 2013, 09:35:43 PM »

Hmmm okay, I don't necessarily agree though since his actual content didn't seem appease-y to me. imo townies will also want to post if everyone's getting mad at them for lurking, note that they don't really want to be modkilled either

a better way to put my issue with Shadoweh is that it felt like her Polaris case was more to get Conq off of her than to actually lynch Polaris for being scum. as soon as he dropped her she stopped caring

Edible · « **Reply #274 on:** February 24, 2013, 10:11:26 PM »

Quote from: huh what on February 24, 2013, 09:35:43 PM

a better way to put my issue with Shadoweh is that it felt like her Polaris case was more to get Conq off of her than to actually lynch Polaris for being scum. as soon as he dropped her she stopped caring

Yeah, upon rereading her posts this game I think I'm starting to agree with you a little. On the other hand, I kind of want to handwave this for the incredibly low level of give-a-shit other players have offered compared to Shadoweh, who is at a minimum reading and acknowledging cases and offering analysis and stuff. Basically I'd rather have her in lylo than a number of other players as of right now.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #275 on:** February 24, 2013, 10:54:15 PM »

Huh what Jesus Saves: Conq made pretty damn clear that he wasn't considering Polaris no matter how hard I pushed for it. Considering I was pushing him since the previous day I don't see what Conq had to do with it, even if I've cooled off of it now.

Amraphenson · « **Reply #276 on:** February 24, 2013, 11:35:27 PM »

welp haven't posted in d3 yet, apologies.

huh: well when you put it like that I do look scummy! the hit list thing like I said could be interpreted in any number of ways; it sets up a fast chain of kills, and if he's scum that's great but if he's absolutely sure that list is scum it's also great. That sort of play could be interpreted from either angles, but personally I think he was honest about just lumping the lurkers together (so he's not scum).

I'm just a little gated about posting my opinions in general because they're all rehash. but my earlier scum list stands (hero/polaris/px/bt) and I'm just not sure how to go about investigating them. I do want PX to post something though so that there's more to gauge. I honestly don't know why you'd want to get rid of me though unless you were absolutely sure I was scum, because I've hardly done anything, so either huhwhat's town and he actually thinks I'm scum or...he's scum and he's drawing attention to me while other stuff goes on? Delaying the game with a pointless lynch?

To be real, I'm pretty aware that I don't contribute anything. Keeping me alive compared to, say, conq or polly or shadoweh or people who are actually posting content in general is probably more beneficial to scum than town. So I'm actually starting to think huhwhat is town for voting me, cause I honestly don't see why scum would want me dead sooner rather than latter.

I totally see the case on PX though, but I'd be a little more comfortable waiting for him to post at least one more time. His last posts were on page 7, his last post was asking someone for an explanation when polly was pretty much outright saying it was only gut, and he's been absolutely quiet since then. So let's ##WrathOfGod PX.

conq was there a reason you aren't going for polly I'm unaware of/missed? cause I'm still on the fence about him.

Amraphenson · « **Reply #277 on:** February 24, 2013, 11:39:55 PM »

confirming someone as town because they want to lynch me is a thing.

Polaris · « **Reply #278 on:** February 24, 2013, 11:53:31 PM »

Quote from: Amra on February 24, 2013, 11:35:27 PM

conq was there a reason you aren't going for polly I'm unaware of/missed? cause I'm still on the fence about him.

conq is dead.

That's 3/4 wrath of gods on PX, by the way.

Amraphenson · « **Reply #279 on:** February 24, 2013, 11:59:00 PM »

oh that would explain why he was quiet. :3

Hero999 · « **Reply #280 on:** February 25, 2013, 12:12:07 AM »

We should totally slap each other.
Amra is just WOASHAzing now.

He goes, Wowz I know I want PX to post more. Then WoG: PX

##Vote Amra!
Also...Thefux, are people not even paying attention to people who get killed or something?
Thefux guys.
Obv.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #281 on:** February 25, 2013, 02:16:53 AM »

I think you should clarify really quickly if that's meant as a WoG vote or not because it looks suspiciously legal.

Hero999 · « **Reply #282 on:** February 25, 2013, 02:19:18 AM »

Don't I have to specifically add
## to the beginning to consider it...?

Shadoweh · « **Reply #283 on:** February 25, 2013, 02:23:36 AM »

Yes. Thank you for clarifying.
I'm really not buying Amra doing the exact same towntell he made last time after we explained flips to him.

Hero999 · « **Reply #284 on:** February 25, 2013, 02:25:01 AM »

PX, and DrRawr haven't bothered with a Single Post this day.
Sorely tempted to outright WoG him.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #285 on:** February 25, 2013, 02:43:53 AM »

Quote from: Shadoweh on February 25, 2013, 02:23:36 AM

I'm really not buying Amra doing the exact same towntell he made last time after we explained flips to him.

Wait did that actually happen? Uh. I'd read that as trying to fake a towntell since it happened as soon as somebody tried to push a case on him.

still liking PX wrath + Amra shot because Amra's response to me is a lot of nothing, again. town shouldn't be weighing the benefits of their death, they should be finding scumbody (wordplay of the fucking year do not steal) who isn't them to kill instead. Shadoweh, Conq might not have shot Polly, okay, but you still seemed like you were coasting once he wasn't shooting you, either. Why didn't you look for a shot target who was a plausible gank? Also, why is Polly better to you now anyway?

PX · « **Reply #286 on:** February 25, 2013, 04:44:25 AM »

Welp, another mafia game, and yet the lynch list is the EXACT SAME. I think I'm beginning to see a pattern. As for this game, everyone seems to be very much preoccupied with this list. So much that they're pretty much ignoring the rest of the game. And thus, I have solved the game. THE SCUM IS 100% WITHIN EDIBLE, SHADOWEH, POLARIS, AND HUH WHAT. FURTHER MORE, IF EDIBLE IS SCUM, SHADOWEH IS SCUM. 100% GUARANTEED. As this is Kingmaker, you don't have to convince town that your partner is scum, you just have to convince ONE person. Thus, protecting your buddy(s) is much better. Looking at what Edible is saying, after being pretty blank yesterday reading through, and what Shadoweh is not saying today, after what she said yesterday, the link is there. Why shouldn't it? Are you saying I'm mad?! WELL I MAD INDEED. Saddened at my lack of being able to obtain power. No matter how hard I try. Alas, my efforts are for naught. What have I to lose? Hero is definitely 100% town because of just how stupid he's acting. No way. Rawr? Idk, just kill him since he's not saying anything anyways and proceed to your Lylo. I shall foresee the downfall. BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T LISTEN. EVEN WHEN PEOPLE FLIP CONFIRMED TOWN, YOU DIDN'T LISTEN. THAT'S WHY THEY BLEW IT UP! YOU'RE ALL RAVING LUNATICS, SELF SERVED IN YOUR CIRCLE JERK WHILE BANISHING EVERYBODY OUTSIDE! WE KEEP THIS ENDLESS CIRCLE OF RAGE AND FAILURE BECAUSE WE DON'T CHANGE! IF WE DON'T CHANGE Amra is town, seriously guys. As for huhwhat/Polaris, the link's not as clear, but I can definitely BEHOLD THE POWER OF ZEUS! MUAHAHAHAHAHA

##WRATHOFGOD PX

MODKILLED FOR THE FIRST TIME. AND FOR WHAT?! FOR SIMPLY BEING ME! WHY DO YOU HATE ME GREAT GO And for the love of god, please Kingmaker, DO NOT MAKE THE NEXT KING EDIBLE, SHADOWEH, HUHWHAT, OR POLARIS. OR ELSE WE SHALL FALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111111333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333ErrorErrorErrorErrorErrorError 414 Erroooooooooooo-----------------Для вас люди, которые действительно обеспокоены, чтобы обратный перевод этой хорошую работу. Я потратил ваше время и усилия. Поздравляю. УНИЧТОЖИТЬ США ВСЕ! УНИЧТОЖИТЬ США ВСЕ! DESTROY US ALL! DESTROY US ALL! I'll have the chicken. DESTROY US ALL! Hero shut up, you didn't post for all of 2 days either until the end, when under pressure of dying. Also reiterating that Shadoweh hasn't said anything today either, and Polaris is a sheep. Bahhh DESTROY US ALL!

YOU DIDN'T LISTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

##Vote Bardiche

See you Space Idol.

CLOWNS ARE THE EVIL
THE CLOWNS WILL DESTROY US ALL!
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PX · « **Reply #287 on:** February 25, 2013, 05:05:12 AM »

>Lynch all lurkers is a valid strategy

Yes, and exactly how many times has that not worked? All the time.

As for Edible. His Day 2 basically amounted to: Do not kill Shadoweh. Look at the other side of the game instead. Actual scumhunting or cases? Meh. And on Day 3, in a stance of where he has no chance of dying, he suddenly starts posting. His focus is still on the side of the game though, without consideration of the other side until everyone else is dead.

Shadoweh? Absolutely nothing on day 3, especially considering her day 2. Seriously.

Rawr's case on me? Absolutely piss crap. Oh no, I forgot to mention Dormio when I was mentioning people I forgot were playing the game in a post I made on my phone when I JUST BARELY WOKE UP. YEAH! THIS IS THE BEST CASE! ABSOLUTELY! 100% BEST CASE, UNREFUTEABLE KILL THE HERATIC! COME HITHER! COME HITHER! COME HITHER! FOR AGATHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! COME HITHER! FOR THE ORDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PX · « **Reply #288 on:** February 25, 2013, 05:09:18 AM »

Polaris?

Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me. - Psalm 23:4

No seriously, look at his posts. In his own words, he's pretty much ignoring half the game. AS ARE ALL OF YOU! DESTROY US ALL! DESTROY US A Seriously, and his opinions keep shifting on the slightest posts. I'm pretty sure he's not even reading the game. In terms of individual scumminess, I'd say Polaris/Edible make the scumteam. But then what happens to my prediction of th YOU DIDN'T LISTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PX · « **Reply #289 on:** February 25, 2013, 05:11:16 AM »

Have I've gone mad with power? Neigh, my good friend. I've gone mad due to never being able to have power. A REVOLUTION I SAY! WE MUST STAND UP AND TAKE DOWN THE MONARCHY! RISE UP! RISE UP WITH ME! TOGETHER, WE SHALL SEE TO THAT AGATHA NEVER RIS However, an Edible/Polaris team... in terms of sense... Actually wait, everybody is ignoring Polaris. DESTROY US ALL! Seriously, this game. Come hither!

Amraphenson · « **Reply #290 on:** February 25, 2013, 05:19:13 AM »

oh no, I didn't bother checking who died, tried to as a dead person something, and I'm going to get lynched for it. and yes last game I didn't know what a flip was because that terminology makes no sense unless you were like distributed cards for role? still not sure why we can't say 'he was town/scum'
huhwhat: I really have no clue what I'm doing. looking at posts doesn't do anything for me, trying to establish patterns and looking at past games and all that stuff is like

for me. so what can I do really? Might as well just offer myself as a sacrifice. If I'm scum, it's cool. If I'm town, then it works out to town benefit that I don't end up as one of the last ones alive making bad reads and wasting space and time. My death is a win/win!
I mean signing up for this game just because it was dota themed was silly. ultimately I'm just the same thing but with a name label.

so ##Vote Amra

love you PX. let's see each other on the other side.

PX · « **Reply #291 on:** February 25, 2013, 05:20:35 AM »

Oh right amra is too derp to be scum yay

Polaris · « **Reply #292 on:** February 25, 2013, 05:21:00 AM »

If having a list of people that I don't think is scum is "ignoring half the game" then I don't exactly see a problem with that? Especially when nobody else is pushing to lynch anyone on that list.

PX · « **Reply #293 on:** February 25, 2013, 05:22:07 AM »

Quote from: Polaris on February 25, 2013, 05:21:00 AM

If having a list of people that I don't think is scum is "ignoring half the game" then I don't exactly see a problem with that? Especially when nobody else is pushing to lynch anyone on that list.

That just means you're contempt to sticking with the general town view. SCUM ZING! ZING! ZING! ZING Z! GIND !O SDFPBPSODJFOIWNGIOW !

PX · « **Reply #294 on:** February 25, 2013, 05:22:28 AM »

I DON'T CARE IF THIS COUNTS AS POSTING AFTER HAMMER I'M ALREADY MODKILLED

PX · « **Reply #295 on:** February 25, 2013, 05:22:58 AM »

YOU'VE ONLY BROUGHT THIS UPON YOURSELF

Polaris · « **Reply #296 on:** February 25, 2013, 05:23:12 AM »

content*

and you're just going full-on confirmation bias mode now :V

also, wrath of god isn't a hammer so w/e

Edible · « **Reply #297 on:** February 25, 2013, 05:28:37 AM »

I don't even know where to begin.

Polaris · « **Reply #298 on:** February 25, 2013, 05:29:46 AM »

Edible who are your potential gank choices again?

Hero999 · « **Reply #299 on:** February 25, 2013, 05:32:04 AM »

..I'll say right now...I somehow thought PX's insanity post was actually Polaris cracking.