Author Topic: DOTA Kingmaker Mafia (SCUM WIN) (Read 27075 times)

Hero999 · « **Reply #210 on:** February 22, 2013, 01:33:03 AM »

Quote from: Ran Yakumo on February 22, 2013, 12:29:37 AM

He claims that that he sees the first day as being mostly meaningless, which I would disagree with but whatever, so why the sudden contribution after a lynch is confirmed?

I find this sentence all sorts of weird.
He is contributing...something...therefore...SUSPICIOUS!!!
...Bwuh?

Conqueror · « **Reply #211 on:** February 22, 2013, 01:39:45 AM »

Quote from: Polaris on February 22, 2013, 12:00:38 AM

Which do you believe in more, Conq, my brain or my heart!?!?!

maybe i want to skip both px and dormio and shoot amra!!!

oh, you were asking about the brain vs the heart.

well let me tell you a story. it's about two brothers who wanted to change the world. one followed his brain. the other followed his heart.
the first became an economist and devoted his life to numbers. using mathematical models he was able to assign numerical values to human life and other aspects of society. working within the highest echelons of the new world order, he was set on creating and pushing through policies that would help in the creation of a new, better world, no matter the cost it would take to get there. others called him stuff like mechanical, ruthless, insane, criminal. eventually he was executed by the very same policies he helped to put in place. he was okay with it in a way, because he knew it was all for the greater good in the end, right??? but he was also disappointed, because a part of him knew that there would never be an end.
the second decided to become an activist to reach people's emotions. he died homeless on the streets of rio de janeiro after lots of drama.
there was a secret third brother, who devoted his life to chaos. he blew stuff up and generally had a great time, because the nature of the world is neither logic nor emotion, but chaos. chance. unpredictable, illogical, unemotional.

none of this is game relevant. i wanted to do something else with this but :effort:, figures.

Quote from: Edible on February 22, 2013, 01:28:05 AM

Conq, list of leading targets for today at present (for something to talk about)? We only got ~12 more hours.

I'm assuming that hero gets wrathed, especially after this post that I see cutting me.

The list for me is something like this then:

2. Pudgio
4. PX
6. BT
10. Amra

Conqueror · « **Reply #212 on:** February 22, 2013, 01:43:00 AM »

well maybe hero's post isnt that bad
BUT STILL

Conqueror · « **Reply #213 on:** February 22, 2013, 01:46:23 AM »

amra - no scumreads
dormio - his case against amra feels like he threw a bunch of random stuff together, hasnt done much else
px - looks better than the first two probably. i have bad gut on him i guess based on the way he's pushing his cases, but i wont pretend to be an expert px reader.
bt -

i dunno. i guess i want to kill dormio/amra before him.

Conqueror · « **Reply #214 on:** February 22, 2013, 01:48:44 AM »

oh, and hero999 - i can't read this. all he's done is the one point on dormio. hero, what happened to when you actually tried in your early games?

Hero999 · « **Reply #215 on:** February 22, 2013, 02:01:23 AM »

He died.
A Fiery death.
Filled with oil, and flames roaring as they consumed his body. Forgotten as someone scatters his ashes to the winds.

Polaris should probably sit down, and think a little. Probably not about anything that keeps circling and making his head hurt. Can't trust anything he says or willing too considering all I'm seeing in his cases are
MAIN BURN KILL - X, Y, Z. In a more fumbly manner.

Dormio is all sorts of weird. Attacking Amra for...CONTRIBUTING of all things as one of his reasons.

PX, is explaining to his LURKER LOGIC! or something.

Shadoweh has little impression on me.

Conq is just the shepard herding the sheeps as always.

BT is...no clue.

Edible is just Fuwafuwa would totally SHEEPSTICK.

Only just realized DrRawr is even playing. The fact that he specifically points me out...when the other players talked about has done about the same amount I had at the time...Inclined to believe he is scum.

Conqueror · « **Reply #216 on:** February 22, 2013, 02:11:00 AM »

see hero im seeing just more iioa
which of them do you think are scum?

wrath of god: conq
placeholder i guess

Conqueror · « **Reply #217 on:** February 22, 2013, 02:12:34 AM »

also hero you literally talked about everyone except amra
what do you think of amra?

Shadoweh · « **Reply #218 on:** February 22, 2013, 02:40:49 AM »

I think I realized why this game is so weird for me. My natural instinct is to stay away from certain lynches, but this entire game is made out of those people. How exactly do you sift through to find the scum when everyone is someone you should put on ignore?
Both Hero and BT(being sick making you hero level is grounds for wrathing too you know) seriously need to give a simpler reads list instead of ducks. Or Hero could just die and make it half-easier for all of us.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #219 on:** February 22, 2013, 03:24:34 AM »

@ltero: except arma didn't really contrubvite. all he did was say that he thisnk that talking d1 is mostly useless.

Also, I cannot properly read the topic right now i Just got brack from the optromihlamogist and everything is very blurry and eark.

Hero999 · « **Reply #220 on:** February 22, 2013, 03:31:23 AM »

Quote from: Conqueror on February 22, 2013, 02:12:34 AM

also hero you literally talked about everyone except amra
what do you think of amra?

Eh? Amra?...
I would agree with Dormio about Amra's comment about D1 nothing happens! Lolz!
Kind fishy and all kinds of things. But still...within reason.

Quote from: Ran Yakumo on February 22, 2013, 03:24:34 AM

@ltero: except arma didn't really contrubvite. all he did was say that he thisnk that talking d1 is mostly useless.

Also, I cannot properly read the topic right now i Just got brack from the optromihlamogist and everything is very blurry and eark.

...So it seems, but you still attacked him with "contributing" as a reason.

Of people I would think as scum...Top three is
DrRawr, Dormio, and Amra.

Aaan The love is filling me up~

Amraphenson · « **Reply #221 on:** February 22, 2013, 05:01:05 AM »

If we're all going to hang on my quip that d1 discussions are useless, then w/e. That's a viewpoint I carry because of my prior mafia experiences, and it's rapidly proving to not be proper for this. d1 is a lot more useful in internet mafia and I'm going to have to get used to that.

Conqueror · « **Reply #222 on:** February 22, 2013, 05:13:58 AM »

@amra

Quote from: Conqueror on February 22, 2013, 01:12:51 AM

so then who do you think is scum?

Amraphenson · « **Reply #223 on:** February 22, 2013, 05:38:31 AM »

Oh, didn't notice that, sorry conq.
Um, hmm. I'm going to have to say Dormio is looking sorta scummy right now; he's really hanging on to the whole 'amra says d1 is useless thing' and not doing anything else, as far as I can tell. Not really getting any particular reads from anyone else.

Conqueror · « **Reply #224 on:** February 22, 2013, 05:56:29 AM »

dormio and amra having singular scumreads on each other and no one else is so mind-numbingly frustrating i dont even
maybe they're scum together

ill give them both until i go to sleep to explain why i should shoot one over the other, and to give other scumreads, because im pretty sure there's more than one scum out there

Conqueror · « **Reply #225 on:** February 22, 2013, 06:00:53 AM »

it's actually mindboggling because there are so many low-content lurkers in this game that it should be easy to attack them if you're scum looking for town mislynches (because all the lurkers cant be scum, it's just numerically impossible), so im not sure what dormio and amra both ignoring most of these players is supposed to mean. i guess maybe it's just the kingmaker setup making everyone lazy.

Conqueror · « **Reply #226 on:** February 22, 2013, 06:04:04 AM »

ebwop: to expand, i cant see anyone just completely ignoring all of these players if they're town so im just :psyduck:
dormio is more guilty of this than amra

Conqueror · « **Reply #227 on:** February 22, 2013, 06:06:24 AM »

*if they're town either
basically you're all lazy bumsssss

Conqueror · « **Reply #228 on:** February 22, 2013, 06:18:34 AM »

okay, i want to kill dormio, and then amra should die afterwards. i think this is it.
i think dormio's confusion about kingmaker reads fake. plus when he's town he at least puts in the minimal effort, right now it looks like he's barely trying. also i get the impression that he's trying to abuse meta by "not caring." because despite everything i know dormio cares about and enjoys playing mafia.
the amra bit would be last minute distancing. amra having dormio as his only scumread im reading as newbie confirmation bias. everyone else looks town because you know they're town from your role pm. if dormio isn't scum the case for amra scum is still strong; compare his play here with his play last game in final fantasy mafia and he feels a lot more cautious here especially with his reads. here it boils down to polaris weird but i think he's town and dormio scum i guess, when he had a lot more to say in the previous game where he was town.
if there's a third scum then i dunno lol. bt? w/e

Amraphenson · « **Reply #229 on:** February 22, 2013, 06:20:52 AM »

Honestly I think Hero is actually scum, but the WoG is probably going to wipe him off the face the planet so is it important that I read him?
I wouldn't blame you for shooting me and lynching dormio, or vice versa though. I'm not really doing anything particularly useful.

I want to say Polaris looked like he was setting up some sort of hit list by grouping us together and that could be used for ANY number of purposes, but that was already pointed out so welp.
it's a little weird but now I'm looking at PX funny for voting Polaris solely on the basis of him lynching lurkers, but makes a good point that polaris sorta did give up on me super fast after I spoke up.
also BT's sick call is sort of a thing considering he has nothing else; that's sort of the thing you can pull off with this much time.

so I suppose a lynch list would be
dormio<>hero>px<>polaris<>bt

prioritizing the first two, but I'm fairly sure hero's going to get WoG'd? I wanna say prioritize dormio but that's frustrating conq so I won't. anyone in that list is fine for me.
conq my reads are a lot more cautious because I don't have a QT to leech opinions from shadoweh and serela.

Amraphenson · « **Reply #230 on:** February 22, 2013, 06:21:45 AM »

also LoM.

Conqueror · « **Reply #231 on:** February 22, 2013, 06:25:35 AM »

okay that post makes me feel a lot better about you why couldnt you have made that earlier jeez >:<

Quote from: Amra on February 22, 2013, 06:21:45 AM

also LoM.

i remember when dan played dota so much he didnt post for a week (or so) in a mafia game, was great

hero needs two more wog votes. i could switch back to hero but we still need another.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #232 on:** February 22, 2013, 06:26:02 AM »

I think Conq is the king. ##Vote: Conq
tbh Day 1 is useless on Day 1. It's not useless later. I can understand thinking so after last game's antics. Also Amra having more to say last game might have been because he was in a qt with people saying a bunch of stuff. Do you really think the scumteam is two guys tunneling on each other and a lurker?
for the record I think Polaris is just as weird as Hero, just Hero is being more blatantly annoying about it.

Conqueror · « **Reply #233 on:** February 22, 2013, 06:27:27 AM »

shadoweh what do you think of dormio/px

Conqueror · « **Reply #234 on:** February 22, 2013, 06:27:43 AM »

ebwop: i desire your expert dormio opinion in particular

Conqueror · « **Reply #235 on:** February 22, 2013, 06:31:26 AM »

ebwodp: im actually not sure i want to wog hero anymore now that he actually started posting content though.
i hate you all.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #236 on:** February 22, 2013, 06:36:30 AM »

And then he cuts me with a post that actually states what I just said and makes me look like I'm parroting gdi Amra
PX seems fine to me and Dormio ~~caused an internal server error when I looked at him~~ his statement on not knowing what to make of Kingmaker seems to really mean 'this game' since he's using it to address his suspects murdering each other yesterday. Looking at his running commentary though he's treating posting like it's a chore to him. I'm honestly not sure if it's scummy or not. It's not that he doesn't care about what people think, it's that he just doesn't care? Apathy is hard to read man

Cut: I was already expanding on Dormio before you said anything you jerk
Wait when did I have an expert opinion on Dormio

Conqueror · « **Reply #237 on:** February 22, 2013, 06:52:49 AM »

you always seem to be able to get weird town reads on dormio, like in last game.
and yeah the apathy is what i was talking about with dormio. even though he does get a bit apathetic at times (and from what i can tell it's more likely when he's town) it's somewhat different, after all this was the sole person who wanted to continue playing notv on the last day.

Conqueror · « **Reply #238 on:** February 22, 2013, 06:56:37 AM »

ebwop: i think it could point to him being scum because maybe he doesn't enjoy it as much now that he doesnt have as much control over the lynch?
or it could just be because he's sick or something in which case it doesnt mean anything buh
sigh shadoweh can i just gank you for peace of mind instead :>

Conqueror · « **Reply #239 on:** February 22, 2013, 07:02:12 AM »

##Wrath of God: Hero
I want to do this again.
Dormio, what's your opinion on hero?