Author Topic: DOTA Kingmaker Mafia (SCUM WIN) (Read 27071 times)

Amraphenson · « **Reply #180 on:** February 21, 2013, 06:20:44 AM »

Sorry for the late response. school was eating my time. also release of Lord of Maidens.
in any case my logic is based around the rules of the mafia I used to play, which was literally lynch+nightkill until it was impossible to lynch the remaining scum with what people you had; so sometimes you'd be down to two town one scum on the last day. which means day 1, anyone who knew they were town simply had to make sure they weren't lynched because there was the assurance there would be plenty of days to do things. in any case I'm not particularly interested in D1 discussions because in my experience nothing really happens in them, but hey internet mafia is an entirely different beast because you can actually go back and check d1 discussions and it's impossible to bullshit people since it's all recorded there.

let's get going then.

hero your post was pretty much what I was expecting from you. <3 and because of it it's time to die
##WrathOfGod: Hero999

polaris' stuff makes sense to me imo Shadoweh. if they're lurkers, then they generally are going to be forced to post when put on someone's lynch list regardless of whether or not they're actually scum, because if they don't then it pulls suspicion. but if they post something bad then, welp. your polaris case is a little too excitable for my tastes but if it was because of sleep deprivation alright.
we got a conq->shadoweh->polaris thing going on here as well, in addition to the dota player rampage thing rawr mentioned.
'm going to agree with Rawr and say seperating myself and PX from him, hero, and dormio is sorta fucked up? we've all done pretty much the same amount of stuff. but his lynch list earlier did make sense if we're going with the whole lurker=~scum thing. which I still don't really agree with? but I'm used to playing mafia with shy people who don't say anything.

so while polaris' thing from earlier makes sense, the separation bit is ringing bells in my head. why particularly did you separate PX and me from the rest, Polaris?
but yeah sorry for not posting.
it's sorta fucked up that the dota players are all being put on the same list in a dota themed game.

Polaris · « **Reply #181 on:** February 21, 2013, 06:28:15 AM »

dormio/hero/rawr were there first, so they're grouped together `_`

Polaris · « **Reply #182 on:** February 21, 2013, 06:37:45 AM »

i mean, from a logical standpoint dormio/hero/rawr/px/amra are all in the same general area so when i started off with dormio/hero/rawr, i figured "eh i guess px/amra should go here too" but like i said it was more of an afterthought.

i never really understood the whole setting up lynches argument and i don't really know if it works out in the kingmaker environment `_`

gosh you lurkers, thanks for posting when i'm trying to ignore mafia to work on an assignment

Polaris · « **Reply #183 on:** February 21, 2013, 06:44:00 AM »

i feel like arbitrarily clearing rawr/amra and so if we get to wrathofgod hero, then i'm left with dormio/px for gank choices :L what do you think, conq?

and i'm kind of putting certain people on my don't-kill-for-today list under some scrutiny.

Polaris · « **Reply #184 on:** February 21, 2013, 06:51:56 AM »

Somewhat unrelated question to Amra: around how many people did you usually have in the mafia games you used to play?

Conqueror · « **Reply #185 on:** February 21, 2013, 07:14:47 AM »

wrath: hero
vote: px

Amraphenson · « **Reply #186 on:** February 21, 2013, 07:43:20 AM »

classes of ten to fifteen.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #187 on:** February 21, 2013, 08:21:35 AM »

Conq: So effectively you're saying to just treat Polaris like Serela?
omgigosh rawr posted it's a miracle what happens when you aren't being impatient. Second addendum: I will agree to Wrath Hero if he doesn't post a content post instead of mimicking being a duck.
Amra: The thing about forcing lurkers to post is they can't answer you wanting to lynch them if the only reason you give is 'because scum'. Like PX did, their natural response is going to be 'what the hell do you want from me?'

Hero999 · « **Reply #188 on:** February 21, 2013, 01:34:00 PM »

Wow, I completely forgot about mafia.
So...Lets see...
Conq is the shepard.
Polaris is the sheep.
With DrRawr going not me over me, to Amra being a sheep ~~with a hateonforme~~.
^_^
People's having personal scum List in a KingMaker are somewhat redundant.
Polaris is essentially Waffling like a selary, on a waffling day.

Shadoweh is sarcasm everywhare.
and...who the hell is playing again?

I'm a duck, I'm a duck, I'm a duck.
YOU'RE A DUCK!

Edible · « **Reply #189 on:** February 21, 2013, 02:54:02 PM »

Hero my man are you going to show up more than once per Day or what?

##vote Dormio

What little content there is from Dormio thus far has been him going ヘ（?ｏ｀）ヘ and coattailing, which I don't like. Still not a fan of BT's D2 posts either.

Conqueror · « **Reply #190 on:** February 21, 2013, 05:39:25 PM »

Quote from: Shadoweh on February 21, 2013, 08:21:35 AM

Conq: So effectively you're saying to just treat Polaris like Serela?

Alright, let me tell you a story. Maybe it'll help you to understand what I'm thinking here. Might be a bit long though.

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Conqueror · « **Reply #191 on:** February 21, 2013, 05:51:32 PM »

I can't believe I took the time to type that out, ugh, but it should make things clearer. Is what Polaris doing a little superficial? Maybe, sure. Is it definitely scum-motivated? Not necessarily. And really, Shadoweh, in the end, you've distinguished between the lurkers about as much as he has. Maybe if you take the effort to distinguish between the lurkers more I'll be able to take your case more seriously. As it is though, I don't intend on ganking either you or Polaris.

I'm still down with wrathing Hero, he's being deliberately unreadable at this point.

Amra, I'm not sure who you want ganked from that, could you elaborate a little? I mean you talk a little about Polaris but end with

??

PX and Dormio should post something game-relevant for today.

Conqueror · « **Reply #192 on:** February 21, 2013, 05:53:31 PM »

Well, BT too I guess, I forgot about him until I read Edible's post.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #193 on:** February 21, 2013, 05:54:14 PM »

##WrathofGod: Hero999
Might be out rest of day. I supose PX, BT and Dormio are better then the other option.

But it was funny, you shouldn't apologize for that!

Bardiche · « **Reply #194 on:** February 21, 2013, 06:43:38 PM »

As far as WoGs go:

CONQ: HERO
POLARIS: HERO
EDIBLE: RAWR
AMRA: HERO
SHADOWEH: HERO

So Hero's at 4 votes to die the death, and needs 3 more to actually die. In light of certain matters though I have adjusted the WOG threshold to 60%, so Hero needs 2 more votes to die!

You've spent 29 hours, thereabouts. Votes are thus:

PX (1): Conqueror
Polaris (2): Shadoweh, Rawr
Dormio (4): Edible

PX · « **Reply #195 on:** February 21, 2013, 08:44:25 PM »

##VOTE POLARIS

You know, reading through all his posts, he hasn't said anything other than lynch the lurkers. And that's really all he's provided for who is scum. No reason other than that. You can see that he gives up as soon as the person posts. Look at his last post! He immediately gives up without reason, or talking about their post. We should, like, kill Polaris.

Also, Dormio is still a useless potato who hasn't said anything. Can we kill him too?

##WrathofGod Hero999

Edible · « **Reply #196 on:** February 21, 2013, 08:52:08 PM »

Lynch All Lurkers is a valid strategy and I don't really blame Polaris for indulging in it. :<

The only issue is half the game appears to be lurkin'.

Quote from: PX on February 21, 2013, 08:44:25 PM

Also, Dormio is still a useless potato who hasn't said anything. Can we kill him too?

I'm trying to bring this to people's attention. >_> Pretty okay with Dormio getting thrown off a bridge by Conq today.

BT · « **Reply #197 on:** February 21, 2013, 08:58:51 PM »

I just slept half the day away accidentally (time I was planning to make a post in) so I think I'm physically unable to contribute anything.

(If I don't get well soon and this becomes a thing just sub me out.)

PX · « **Reply #198 on:** February 21, 2013, 08:59:16 PM »

But when that's your only content and you're not trying to look for scum from the other half of the game, it's just lazy stance that scum can easily hold.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #199 on:** February 21, 2013, 09:02:18 PM »

dotos too hard.
Had to do a lot of shit yesterday, whatever.
Don't like Amra. Think he should probably die or something.

Edible · « **Reply #200 on:** February 21, 2013, 09:13:23 PM »

Quote from: Ran Yakumo on February 21, 2013, 09:02:18 PM

dotos too hard.
Had to do a lot of shit yesterday, whatever.
Don't like Amra. Think he should probably die or something.

Conqueror · « **Reply #201 on:** February 21, 2013, 09:59:24 PM »

gott im himmel

Bardiche · « **Reply #202 on:** February 21, 2013, 10:30:31 PM »

Next WoG on Hero immediately kills him, Day will continue if that happens, flip at end of Day.

Amraphenson · « **Reply #203 on:** February 21, 2013, 10:38:48 PM »

I pointed out polaris but I don't particularly think he's scum. Maybe I'm gullible but I believe his explanation.

care to elaborate dormio?

Polaris · « **Reply #204 on:** February 22, 2013, 12:00:38 AM »

My brain tells me Dormio is worse than PX but my heart tells me that Conq should gank PX.

Which do you believe in more, Conq, my brain or my heart!?!?!

PX · « **Reply #205 on:** February 22, 2013, 12:07:50 AM »

Are you going to do this thing where you explain why?

Polaris · « **Reply #206 on:** February 22, 2013, 12:18:49 AM »

Well I mean I can't explain how my heart works `_` But from a logical standpoint, Dormio has done nothing productive all day so <_>

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #207 on:** February 22, 2013, 12:29:37 AM »

First of all, Amra still hasn't answered why he felt the need to begin talking only after the lynch on D1.
He claims that that he sees the first day as being mostly meaningless, which I would disagree with but whatever, so why the sudden contribution after a lynch is confirmed?
On top of that, there's something about the logic he's using in attacking Polaris for attacking him that rubs me the wrong way.
But time is a thing that I don't feel like trying to gain. Whatever.

Conqueror · « **Reply #208 on:** February 22, 2013, 01:12:51 AM »

Quote from: Amra on February 21, 2013, 10:38:48 PM

I pointed out polaris but I don't particularly think he's scum. Maybe I'm gullible but I believe his explanation.

care to elaborate dormio?

so then who do you think is scum?

Edible · « **Reply #209 on:** February 22, 2013, 01:28:05 AM »

Hero I'm gonna switch my wrath vote to you if you don't post something useful very soon, fyi.

Conq, list of leading targets for today at present (for something to talk about)? We only got ~12 more hours.