Author Topic: DOTA Kingmaker Mafia (SCUM WIN) (Read 27071 times)

Conqueror · « **Reply #150 on:** February 21, 2013, 01:35:37 AM »

Also I don't really subscribe to the logic of not shooting Shadoweh just because she's one of the few players being active and posting content in this game. If I decide to shoot someone else it'll be because I get a town read on her, which if she's town will probably happen naturally if she continues to post.

That said, I don't have anything against ganking people like Hero, but how the hell are you supposed to distinguish between them? I guess this is mostly directed at Edible.

Hero should post a serious game opinion or I'd wrath him over the non-existent rawr. Deliberate trolls are more annoying than non-players.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #151 on:** February 21, 2013, 01:39:16 AM »

So, uh, I still have no idea what to make of kingmaker, especially since Zakeri and ActionDan are still dead.
What Shadoweh mentioned in #120 stands out to me, though, and I would like Amra to answer that question.

Polaris · « **Reply #152 on:** February 21, 2013, 01:39:50 AM »

ok I'm up for wrath of god `_`

##WrathOfGod: rawr

well like my list is dormio/hero/rawr and px/amra to a lesser extent, not just because they're lurkers but also because I don't particularly see the need to kill anyone in the other half of the playerlist just yet (they could be townreads if I change the threshold for scum/town reads)

Polaris · « **Reply #153 on:** February 21, 2013, 01:41:12 AM »

i guess the fun part of having a king is that my opinion on whether or not we should kill shadoweh has very little bearing on the actual outcome

Shadoweh · « **Reply #154 on:** February 21, 2013, 01:41:38 AM »

You're right, I feel much better about what I've been pointing out after I went back to sleep.
Re that PX thing by the way I really dislike being forced to defend a point that I don't actually want to pursue. I don't think PX's posts are that bad this game, just not the kind of good that should cause someone to say okay and vote the next nearest person on their say-so. Maybe everyone else would ignore you less if you weren't obviously going to lynch me and they could post haikus about Bard's favorite emoticon instead of contributing.

##VOTE: POLARIS

I'm still not going to wrath someone who hasn't had a chance to post because Dan jumped the gun. ~~even if Rawr would probably deserve it anyways~~.
bunchacuts can hold their horses

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #155 on:** February 21, 2013, 01:43:55 AM »

Also, Polaris' flippant attitude towards the Wrath of God is clearly indicative of him being scum due to scum's want for reduced numbers.

Polaris · « **Reply #156 on:** February 21, 2013, 01:46:42 AM »

^ is that a serious claim that i should address

Shadoweh · « **Reply #157 on:** February 21, 2013, 01:48:52 AM »

Dormio are you trying to guess what I'm going to say and posting it first?
I more like the preemptive Amra/PX additions for when his first lot clear out, which he got from me pointing them out, ready to sub in for when a totes scummy individual gets vigged.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #158 on:** February 21, 2013, 01:51:18 AM »

Quote from: Polaris on February 21, 2013, 01:46:42 AM

^ is that a serious claim that i should address

Sure, why not? Words are supposed to be totally great. Or something.

Polaris · « **Reply #159 on:** February 21, 2013, 01:52:37 AM »

i will acknowledge that i added amra/px as an afterthought. they didn't really fit in the "i don't want to kill them" category so i put them in the other category `_`

Edible · « **Reply #160 on:** February 21, 2013, 01:57:04 AM »

I'm gonna predict the future here.

-Conq shoots Shadoweh since he's not paying attention to anyone else and is clearly trying to force his case (not that it matters because he has the gun and is under no obligation to make a case)

-Shadoweh flips town (probably)

-Conq gets shot d3 for refusing to consider other cases d2

-Conq flips town (less probably)

-It's d4, town runs around like a chicken with its head cut off

Basically the moral of the story is conq should probably not spend all day poking shadoweh with a stick and maybe look at other people? BT too. Shoot her if you must but at least pretend like you might consider someone else.

Meanwhile, Hero is either playing to lose or he's a jester. Probably no point wasting a gank on him yet if that's the case.

@Bard: Will wrath-o'-god end the day? (I disagree with flippancy claims re: wrath of god, I like killing players that are serving as naught but distractions :3c)

Polaris · « **Reply #161 on:** February 21, 2013, 02:03:20 AM »

Quote from: Ran Yakumo on February 21, 2013, 01:51:18 AM

Sure, why not? Words are supposed to be totally great. Or something.

i mean it was kind of an unconvincing way to try and pin someone as scum so i was just wondering if you were seriously suspecting me.

edible's prediction of the future worries me because it implies that we're going to kill people on my "don't kill" list before the the people on the other list :< i'll need to find an ibn5100 if i want to prevent conq from his inevitable death in this world line!

Polaris · « **Reply #162 on:** February 21, 2013, 02:43:42 AM »

I just had a semi-epiphany, maybe shadoweh is scum???

Conqueror · « **Reply #163 on:** February 21, 2013, 02:46:03 AM »

Quote from: Shadoweh on February 21, 2013, 01:41:38 AM

Maybe everyone else would ignore you less if you weren't obviously going to lynch me and they could post haikus about Bard's favorite emoticon instead of contributing.

Quote from: Edible on February 21, 2013, 01:57:04 AM

-Conq shoots Shadoweh since he's not paying attention to anyone else and is clearly trying to force his case (not that it matters because he has the gun and is under no obligation to make a case)

Gosh, y'all are such a defeatist bunch. >_> Even when I'm strongly reading scum on someone it doesn't mean that I view them as the ONE TRUE LYNCH, because that's not how I play. ~~After all, everyone is scum and it's just a matter of what order you die in.~~
Edible is just mad because he doesn't want me to shoot someone he sees as one of the few people playing and making this game enjoyable.

But it's okay, because I think I found what I'm looking for from Shadoweh. ##Unvote
Re: paying attention to anyone else, just because I want to stab Shadoweh doesn't mean I'm ignoring everyone else, gosh. No one else is really doing anything. If we're going to go the hero route we can wrath that, I'm not wasting a gank on that.

Shadoweh if you're going to pursue the Polaris wants to mislynch all the lurkers then does that mean his buddies are in the remainder?

Polaris being flippant is probably alignment unindicative, as proven with all the times I've wanted to lynch him for it when he was town in his previous games.

I'm pretty sure Wrath of God doesn't end the day or there would be no point to it.

Quote from: Ran Yakumo on February 21, 2013, 01:39:16 AM

So, uh, I still have no idea what to make of kingmaker, especially since Zakeri and ActionDan are still dead.

What does this even mean?

Edit: Polaris so why now instead of earlier?

Polaris · « **Reply #164 on:** February 21, 2013, 02:49:21 AM »

......i don't really know

i just ended up thinking "hey maybe her case on me is bad because she is scum and not because she made a bad case" and i'm not exactly sure what to think :derp:

Conqueror · « **Reply #165 on:** February 21, 2013, 02:52:13 AM »

##Wrath of God: Hero999 I guess

Bardiche · « **Reply #166 on:** February 21, 2013, 02:57:24 AM »

Quote from: Edible on February 21, 2013, 01:57:04 AM

@Bard: Will wrath-o'-god end the day? (I disagree with flippancy claims re: wrath of god, I like killing players that are serving as naught but distractions :3c)

The Wrath of God will not end the Day. You still get your King lynch. Note that the original WoG rules stipulated the player in question had to be disruptive in some way; That has since been removed and I will modkill anyone who reaches the WoG count, regardless of their standing. It's only fair.

Bardiche · « **Reply #167 on:** February 21, 2013, 03:02:50 AM »

Double posting like a boss, a votecount!

Shadoweh (1): Conqueror
Polaris (1): Shadoweh

WRATH OF GOD
Rawr (1)
Hero999 (1)
With 10 live players, it takes 7 to WoG.

You've spent around 15 hours already, time's a-tickin'.

Polaris · « **Reply #168 on:** February 21, 2013, 03:04:53 AM »

Rawr has two wraths :< Conq and I both used wrath on him.

Polaris · « **Reply #169 on:** February 21, 2013, 03:11:47 AM »

Actually, I think I was mentally equating wrath of god with shadoweh's weird tar and feather system from that game she hosted one time, but should rawr be prodded or...?

Conqueror · « **Reply #170 on:** February 21, 2013, 03:16:37 AM »

rawr probably flaked tbh and there are no modkills, so that's what wrath is for. this is why i think the argument of "but they didnt post yet" is nonsensical, because they're not going to be replace or modkilled so...what are we going to do with them? let them st there?
also this is a bit different from tarring than feathering in that if we want to wrath someone who's scum we're going to need near unaminous town agreement assuming 2 or 3 scum, because lol %70 threshold.

Conqueror · « **Reply #171 on:** February 21, 2013, 03:18:13 AM »

there are no prods in this game afaict

Polaris · « **Reply #172 on:** February 21, 2013, 03:20:50 AM »

Well yeah I meant tar and feather system as in it replaced the prod system, but I wasn't sure if the wrath of god system replaced the prod system in this game. was wondering if rawr actually forgot that he was in mafia and needed a friendly reminder or something <_> but that's not very likely (at least I hope)

Edible · « **Reply #173 on:** February 21, 2013, 03:22:28 AM »

Quote from: Conqueror on February 21, 2013, 03:16:37 AM

rawr probably flaked tbh

I was originally giving him the benefit of the doubt since he's not actually posted since ed1.

Then I noticed he's been online since then!

##wrath rawr :derp:

Conq I'm confused, did you bail on your shadoweh scumread or are you just thinking she's okay for now?

Conqueror · « **Reply #174 on:** February 21, 2013, 03:25:38 AM »

eh i think she's okay. dont really have a town read on her but im seeing some of the enthusiasm/desperation i associate with shadoweh town. i still dont like her polaris case though.
also i not-so-secretly favour killing people who don't contribute over those who do. and hell, even if shadoweh is scum, she's not the only one.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #175 on:** February 21, 2013, 04:22:28 AM »

You never like anything I do *tableflip*
Look, if Rawr doesn't post after 24 hours are up I'll agree he's wrathable, but I really think you're jumping the gun on being mean to him.
I was also suddenly caught up in ~*~IRL STUFF~*~ and my guts will be on the floor if I'm caught posting for a few hours so DON'T LYNCH ME WHILE I'M GONE OKAY

Conqueror · « **Reply #176 on:** February 21, 2013, 04:34:43 AM »

hey that's not true at all, i dont immediately go >:< at everything you post :< if it makes you feel better like i said im leaning towards ganking someone else today, i dont like how everyone is mostly just hanging by and i have a few people in mind. it's not polaris though, i feel like you're latching onto him because he posts stream of consciousness.
ill admit that i may be power tripping a little. i just want people to post!
people not named edible, shadoweh, or polaris, although i do appreciate and welcomely seek their input.

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #177 on:** February 21, 2013, 05:57:28 AM »

no way you guys, i was unexpectedly hit with alot of things recently so yea excuses. i also left my computer on while i was at class

Quote from: Polaris on February 19, 2013, 12:16:26 AM

new lynch list: dormio, hero, dr rawr

Quote from: PX on February 20, 2013, 05:44:09 PM

Or Rawr. Or Amra. Because I seriously can't remember who is in this game.

i feel as though this isnt particularly right. i guess in a kingmaker game it would be easy for scum to setup kills on us but it isnt really scummy i guess to want to lynch these people
PX not following up on dormio in that list is though. im pretty sure px wouldnt have dropped his vote on him if he had read dormios posts in between in own posts.

Also dont think hero is a jester and not do anything in particular just to receive the wrath of god.

Quote from: Edible on February 21, 2013, 01:57:04 AM

Meanwhile, Hero is either playing to lose or he's a jester. Probably no point wasting a gank on him yet if that's the case.

then who should conq gank if not hero?

guys i feel as though setting up some kind of rampage streak with me -> amra -> px -> dormio -> hero wont get us too far. not saying there isnt scum between that list i just dont want kings going though with it everyday from here on.

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well like my list is dormio/hero/rawr and px/amra to a lesser extent, not just because they're lurkers but also because I don't particularly see the need to kill anyone in the other half of the playerlist just yet (they could be townreads if I change the threshold for scum/town reads)

this post bother me too much
##Vote: Polaris

Polaris · « **Reply #178 on:** February 21, 2013, 06:04:43 AM »

##WrathOfGod: Hero999

it's too late for me to deal with anything mentally intensive >:<

who is scum aaaaaaaa

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #179 on:** February 21, 2013, 06:11:13 AM »

because i feel like my post looks like total shit
-px is scum because i feel as though him not mentioning dormio at the start of the day even though he was voting him for most of d1. Im also feeling as though theres no way dormios posts would have satisfied his original reasoning of voting him at all.

-polaris posts bother me and makes me think hes scum because of that separation of of me/hero/dormio and px/amra looks incredibly wrong. i feel as though if polaris were scum it would be easy to fall back onto px/amra(or tbh any one of mentioned) if either of them were his scum buddy. i still feel that scum would try to setup easy myslynches even if it did include one of there scum friends.