Spell Card Help Topic VI: How do I used Bomb?

[Drake]

Grandpa Hanasaka "Jealousy of the Kind and Lovely" (sometimes I'm trapped so I'll often time out or bomb this spell)
Very easy pattern, especially with ReimuA. It's basically always possible to just stay directly under Parsee the whole time. When the spell starts you follow her left, but you also want to be just a little bit left of her while still hitting her with your shots, so that you can turn around and follow her right without having to deal with the first shot. After that, there should be enough openings to be able to follow her until it's cleared. Watch a replay if you can't visualize how to do this.

Oni Sign "Anomalies, Strength, Disorder, and Spirits" (mostly impossible to dodge but somtimes I'll somehow survive it)
The best way to do this is just to find a consistent path and ignore how many bullets there are flying around. What I remember doing is starting under Yuugi at bottom screen, follow her to the right, and from there you'll do one dodge left (depending on how far right Yuugi moves), then one dodge right. Dodging that one wave should be enough to clear it. There are many paths you can take to clear it easily enough, you just need to learn one and do it consistently.

Big Four Arcanum "Knock Out In Three Steps" (on easy I can dodge it but on normal the blue bullets can trap me. )
Well that's the only actual dodging part of the card so there's not much helping that.

Recollection "Double Black Death Butterfly"
Legitimately difficult card, no easy solution.

Recollection "Border of Wave and Particle"
Also legitimately difficult fast-paced dodging. It does have a safespot.

Atonement "Needle Mountain of a Former Hell"
Also also legitimately difficult, but can be made a lot easier if you learn the timing for when the wheels are fired. They're aimed directly at you, so you need to have one wheel aimed at you already, then wait for the sound again, then move over. You want Rin to aim two wheels at one location and only move once to dodge them both.

[I have no name]

Grandpa Hanasaka "Jealousy of the Kind and Lovely" (sometimes I'm trapped so I'll often time out or bomb this spell)
Oni Sign "Anomalies, Strength, Disorder, and Spirits" (mostly impossible to dodge but somtimes I'll somehow survive it)
Big Four Arcanum "Knock Out In Three Steps" (on easy I can dodge it but on normal the blue bullets can trap me. )

With ReimuA, you can gap through the wall to avoid having to turn the stream on Hanasaka.  Alternatively, you can circle around Parsee-this is what I did when I was first clearing the game.  On higher difficulties, though, you have to go through the flower trails, this does work on normal but circling Parsee is probably the easiest method.
Yuugi's midboss spell is reading and dodging, I think it's a bit harder than its difficulty level and placement would imply, so there's no shame in bombing it.  Again, that's what I did when I was first clearing (and I still bomb the lunatic version, heh)
Knockout in Three Steps, I'm assuming you mean the blue wave that Yuugi spawns that dissolves into a dense, slow moving field.  Honestly, just try to find a gap-they do exist, just remember that your hitbox is small and you should be able to find a gap that requires 0-1 movements while the bullets leave the screen.

Recollection "Double Black Death Butterfly"
Recollection "Border of Wave and Particle"
Atonement "Needle Mountain of a Former Hell"

These 3 are pretty tough to dodge, Double Black Death Butterfly in particular has no strategy beyond luring Satori to a corner to make some bullets despawn offscreen.  Border of Wave and Particle has a safespot right on top of Satori (just outside her hurtbox), and Needle Mountain of a Former Hell, the 'ghost wheels' are aimed relative to your position.  Alternating between 3 points on the screen (right, middle, left) in a repeated sequence helps, but it's still a fairly tricky card.  I still die to the normal mode version of this sometimes.

-cut by Drake-
Well, no harm in 2 people offering advice :V

[Szayelaporro Granz]

Is there any tips for Youmu's Hell Flame Sword and Yuyuko's Poisonous Moth + Sumizome Perfect Blossom?

[Zil]

It is worth noting that both Yuugi's midboss spell and Border of Wave and Particle are exactly the same every time.

Yuyuko's Poisonous Moth

Also the same every time, with aimed elements of course.

Just memorize paths.

[I have no name]

It is worth noting that both Yuugi's midboss spell and Border of Wave and Particle are exactly the same every time.

Yuugi does move differently, however, so you would have to dodge relative to the pattern (and more bullets from the sides/top could enter the pattern or you have to improvise if she moves down and your path is at the bottom).  That works for BoWaP, though.

[Sakurei]

At 3 or 4 power with reimuA you only have to dodge one wave of yuugi's midboss spellcard, so it actually is always the same. Of course, I have no idea what shot that guy is using.

[I have no name]

Anyone have any methods of making Keine's first nonspell easier with a solo youkai?  Lunatic difficulty.

[Critz]

By now I'm pretty convinced that ZUN either fucked up the HP amount and gave her too much or created that card exclusively for Youmu, because there's no way in hell 40 seconds are enough to capture it.
I can somehow stay under Seiga for the two initial laser waves and drain almost half of her HP before moving to the side, but then I'm forced to stream and for all intents and purposes I stop dealing damage to her altogether. Not that I can nearly survive the onslaught for entire 40 seconds, my record is 4 turnarounds I believe, but when I died she still had like almost fucking 1/4 of her total HP.
I must be doing something wrong, because I'm not even sure how to stream it correctly. Tried both V-stream and U-stream, and it's still a matter of time before I get walled, because the thunderballs' movement is simply too irregular and insane. Am I missing something obvious here? Is there any way you could, for example, make circles below her or something? I wasted far more time on this crap than on all other Overdrives combined.

[MTSranger]

Hmm...
I captured it with Reimu in a very large number of tries... idk about Sanae.

[Andrew]

My strategy for misdirecting the homing orbs in Seiga's Overdrive was to move horizontally towards the sides, then go as far up the side of the screen as I safely could. Then I was able to move to the bottom center during the period between the waves of lasers to get some good damage on the boss. Afterwards I misdirect the orbs part way up the other side of the screen. Rinse and repeat. Took me over 100 tries, but eventually, using Reimu, I was able to capture this card with 12 seconds remaining.

See my attached replay.

[chirpy13]

How

[Sakurei]

There are gaps you hitbox fits through, I...I promise! I never felt like there was a trick to it. If I can, I tend to just bomb/hyper it - dodging it reliably is pretty hard.

One thing you might want to try is go into the opposite corner of the screen (if you can) and dodge there, since it'll have spread out some more there than directly below Yumemi. Good luck chirpy. I know you can do it ;_;

[Zil]

These spots I'd say:


It's static so try to learn where they are. Since they're so small you don't want to try to line up with them and let the attack pass you by. Wait for the opening to get alongside or above you and then rush through it. If you can get far enough away from where she fires it then it's not so bad.

Another method is to use a charge attack and pass through the wall during invincibility frames. That can be hard if you have a slow charge speed (like Mima). What I'd suggest is getting the charge ready before she fires and then just holding it until you see what she uses. You won't have time if you start charging after she fires.
edit: And when you use the charge attack, try to go through like you normally would (through that part I pointed out). You go through the outer wall and then dodge the slower stars behind it. You can't get away with just rushing through the slow stars as well. The invincibility doesn't last long enough.

[Shio Yamote]

Need some help capturing Seija's Reverse Hierarchy. I can capture it by turning my head or my laptop upside down (using a controller) but IMO this is cheating so I need some tips.

[I have no name]

For me anyway, I just keep straight which direction pressing left will take me and which direction pressing right will take me.  If I need to move closer to Seija (from hitting a wall), all you have to do is hold up-and down will put you back to where you previously were.  Also, turning your head upsidedown is hardly cheating at all, I'd just call it a creative solution :V

[Sahgren]

Does anyone have any advice for Orin's second non-spell on Hard? I can't quite figure out how to handle both the stream of bullets the fairies set up and the pattern Orin drops at the same time.

[Mr Jovial]

I believe most people stay in the area below Orin as she drops her pattern since it stops her from spawning a lot of the bullets. That gives you an area about 2x-3x bigger than your graze hitbox which should be enough time to sidestep the aimed shots.

EDIT: Technique in action

[Oh]

Does anyone have any advice for Orin's second non-spell on Hard? I can't quite figure out how to handle both the stream of bullets the fairies set up and the pattern Orin drops at the same time.

EDIT: Technique in action

1440p so amazing

[ElvenRed]

There must be something to this that I'm missing, but how is Kanako's Expanded Onbashira supposed to be done? The card is simple enough, but more than half the times I try it, Kanako moves to the opposite side I decided to stream and keeps doing that until the attack is over by timeout lol

[Oh]

She moves horizontally towards you, the distance she moves and her vertical movement are random.

[Mr Jovial]

Can anyone help me with Tewi's first nonspell please? I seem to be completely incapable of surviving a single wave  :X

[Elysia]

Shinki's third spellcard in Phantasmagoria Trues Standard Unseen Area 3. The one with the yellow bullets that has the chain of explosions.

How in the hell are you supposed to dodge that explosion chain?

[?q]

Shinki's third spellcard in Phantasmagoria Trues Standard Unseen Area 3. The one with the yellow bullets that has the chain of explosions.

How in the hell are you supposed to dodge that explosion chain?

I haven't practiced Shinki enough to give good advice, but I'll try.

I think that the triangles of the spell card operate in one of two static patterns, which means that it's possible to memorize where to stay in either of the two possible barrages for the two or three waves needed to drain Shinki's HP.  The best way to do that is probably to watch a few replays and armchair-shmup where the safe spots are, to be honest - the entire point of the attack is that it's difficult to read when you're actually playing it.

[Monkeypro257]

I need tips with Reimu's LW in IN. (The only freakin Last Word I can't pass for over a while now.) >.>

[I have no name]

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32190
Here's how I do it.

Essentially, every wave I have a method of redirecting to make it a non-threat (wave 5 into wave 6 is an interesting case in that I couldn't find a way to avoid going around it, so I go through it).  The last few waves, going up into the center looks really risky but it's not, as the next wave can be streamed down left-and then the final dodges can be done with a few taps left.

[TresserT]

She moves horizontally towards you, the distance she moves and her vertical movement are random.

(Several days later...)

The strategy I use actually involves no streaming at all. When the wave starts go to the left side of the screen. As the pillar laser things fall you should make your way to the center. For the next wave do the same thing but head to the right side. You can pretty much ignore the blue amulets this way and she usually stays near the middle.

Can anyone explain to me "Source of Rains" on Lunatic? I've been streaming it but I always, always clipdeath on the scales. I can't survive single wave without bombing...

[Oh]

If you're just going for a 1cc by all means bomb it, twice even.
If by scales you mean the arrowheads then you can try letting them spread further before entering.

[Rei]

(Several days later...)

The strategy I use actually involves no streaming at all. When the wave starts go to one side of the left side of the screen. As the pillar laser things fall you should make your way to the center. For the next wave do the same thing but head to the right side. You can pretty much ignore the blue amulets this way and she usually stays near the middle.

Can anyone explain to me "Source of Rains" on Lunatic? I've been streaming it but I always, always clipdeath on the scales. I can't survive single wave without bombing...

Try to get through the wave before the bullets become too diagonal. And you should add some up-down movements while streaming through them.

[Alicirno]

I'm kind of stuck on Scene 6-2 of StB. It's the only scene I have left for Levels 1 to 6, but the final phase just seems to be impossible for whatever reason.  :ohdear:

[Drake]

Can anyone explain to me "Source of Rains" on Lunatic? I've been streaming it but I always, always clipdeath on the scales. I can't survive single wave without bombing...

Stay away from the bottom when streaming; it aims the bullets at a wider angle, and when dodging you have a lot more space to move vertically.
Additionally, Kanako moves towards you, so you can set up the card by centering yourself a few pixels to the right of Kanako, then following her to the right for some good initial damage.