Spell Card Help Topic VI: How do I used Bomb?

[MasterProX]

So... my laptop's keyboard sucks and won't let me bomb unless I let go of every other key.  Anyone know a way to fix this, other than buying a new keyboard?

Also, I can't survive even ten seconds into Shinmyoumaru's "Shining Needle Sword" (on Normal).  Any advice?

[Zork787]

Well I managed to capture Blue Lady Show at least http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG3-6XBSisg&feature=youtu.be

So... my laptop's keyboard sucks and won't let me bomb unless I let go of every other key.  Anyone know a way to fix this, other than buying a new keyboard?

Also, I can't survive even ten seconds into Shinmyoumaru's "Shining Needle Sword" (on Normal).  Any advice?

Have a Replay, the Touhou 14 Replay folder by default is at C:\Users\*username*\AppData\Roaming\ShanghaiAlice\th14\replay so that's where you want to put it, obviously *username* is where your computers username will be

[Imyourtarget]

Can anyone help me with Cranberry Trap?  I can't seem to figure it out, and the fact that Reimu wants to shoot at the things shooting the bullets doesn't help at all.

[MasterProX]

Have a Replay, the Touhou 14 Replay folder by default is at C:\Users\*username*\AppData\Roaming\ShanghaiAlice\th14\replay so that's where you want to put it, obviously *username* is where your computers username will be

Ah... I get how to do it now. I just wasn't being careful enough, I guess.  :V Thanks.

[Zil]

So... my laptop's keyboard sucks and won't let me bomb unless I let go of every other key.  Anyone know a way to fix this, other than buying a new keyboard?

You can use something like Autohotkey or Keymapper to (hopefully) change the controls to a configuration that doesn't cause that.

[Space Flower]

So... my laptop's keyboard sucks and won't let me bomb unless I let go of every other key.  Anyone know a way to fix this, other than buying a new keyboard?

Yeah I think autohotkey is the way to go. It sucks though, right? I just got a new laptop a few weeks ago and my touhou playing basically plummeted because I couldn't bomb if I was also shooting while focused. I can't even find a 3-key combo on my keyboard that ghosts besides ones involving the x key.

[Sahgren]

Can anyone help me with Cranberry Trap?  I can't seem to figure it out, and the fact that Reimu wants to shoot at the things shooting the bullets doesn't help at all.

They're set patterns, so you can memorize it and try to position yourself so you only have to dodge 1-2 lines at a time. It helps to get about halfway up the screen instead of sticking near the bottom, both because it makes it easier to isolate each line to dodge and because you can make the homing amulets hit Flandre regardless of what they're locked onto if you get close enough.

Here's a video for reference.

[Kaze_Senshi]

Can someone explain to me the spawn pattern from that streaming bullets before Mugetsu?

[Zil]

You can do the first part by moving vertically in the center. The next phase sort of "aims" the spawn points of the bullets at you I believe (and the bullets themselves are still aimed as well), and that can be done by slowly moving along the bottom, hopping up over the one bullet that comes at you horizontally, then reversing direction.

[Mr Jovial]

Any advice for Youmu's midboss and 1st nonspells (the ones you usually misdirect) without doing that misdirection to the top? I want to dodge through it properly but can't figure out where to direct it for the easiest route :L

[Shio Yamote]

I need help with patchouli's spellcards (EX) in EoSD and Flandre's Cranberry Trap because I'm using ReimuA and her stupid homing amulets target the familiars instead of targeting Flandre, so it takes much more time to end the spellcard. Any tips?

[KuroArashi100]

I think that the term Patchouli's spellcards might be a bit too vague. Which spellcards were you talking about exactly?
And a question about Cranberry Trap has been answered a few posts ago.

[Limian]

One more thing about Cranberry Trap: the pink bullets are aimed at the center (and thus, static), the blue ones are aimed at you. Stay a bit below the center of the screen, dodge to the side a little and you can easily go through the blue bullets from below.
For Silent Selene (I assume you're talking about Patchouli's ex spells), shotgun her at the beginning before the moon "closes" and from there it's straightforward dodging near the bottom of the screen. Royal Flare is completely static, so memorise a path (watch your own replays!). You want to go to the bottom left for the second wave. Philosopher's Stone is pure reading and dodging, no big tricks there.

[Seppo Hovi]

The most dense part of Patchouli's final spell is always aimed at you, so you can stream it a bit. I'd suggest staying in the middle and just finishing it off swiftly, though.

[Star King]

I personally prefer startin in the top center and streaming downwards while dodging the extraneous stiff.

[Alcoraiden]

Help on Kanako's second non-spell? The flowing bullets are so dense that I really can't figure out how to re-stream it. I feel like the solution should be "just dodge back across it," but I never see any openings, and this is on Normal Mode. I think I'm just doing it wrong somehow.

Also, I'm sure everyone will groan, but how do you guys deal with Sukuna's "You Grow Bigger" card?

[I have no name]

Help on Kanako's second non-spell? The flowing bullets are so dense that I really can't figure out how to re-stream it. I feel like the solution should be "just dodge back across it," but I never see any openings, and this is on Normal Mode. I think I'm just doing it wrong somehow.

On normal, with ReimuA and MarisaC you can do the 2nd non without having to streamturn it.  It's a tough pattern to streamturn though, but an opening exists right after the red bullets pass by.  (Ironically, I find the normal mode version the hardest for this)

[Alcoraiden]

Oh awesome, I don't just suck. (Okay so I do, but.) So you're saying if you stream it tightly enough, you can take her out with Homing Reimu and not have to restream?

[KuroArashi100]

Isn't it easier to stream it vertically downwards? That is how I usually capture it with ReimuB.
But ReimuA can do this too, despite the lower firepower.
Included a replay to show this.

"You Grow Bigger" is relatively easy IMO. Start in the lower left corner, and stream the knives, and move a small bit to the left between streams until you hit the other side. Then repeat the same thing until the spellcard is finished. As long as you don't stream too fast, and move back a bit after each wave of knives, it shouldn't pose much threat.

[Mr Jovial]

Right, what is the secret to PCBs stage 6 spam?

[Raekuul]

Every stage 6 is spam, and all of PCB 6 is spam. Which part specifically and what difficulty level? And what shot type?

[Zil]

There's really only one thing he could possibly be referring to.

And there's really no big secret to it as far as I'm aware. Timing a border to take a hit for you could work, or if you don't want to break borders, you can use the short window of invincibility you get when a border wears off to pass through the densest part towards the end. And shots with better coverage can make it slightly easier by taking out more fairies.

[cactu]

Hug corner, jump through bullets with border invincibility.

[Mr Jovial]

Borders aren't an option when I'm trying to perfect the stage and I don't think a couple of frames of invincibility will cover me for long enough. Probably should have made the perfect thing clear, sorry :<

Guess I'll play around and see who can keep everything very dead. Hoping Sakuya A does enough damage to do it with unfocused fire

[Star King]

Use SakuyaB, cover left and right rough spawn points simultaenously.

Not sure how much it helps but maybe a bit?

[Mr Jovial]

Yeah, looks like Sakuya B is basically the only way to make it any less insane. Sakuya A UF is too weak and focused doesn't cover enough of the screen. Oh well.

Also need some help with Yuyuko's knife nonspell (the curvy lines of blue knives). I can't figure out how those knives are aimed. I saw a strategy which goes center, then to the left then back to center and I tried it myself. Seems like the knives attack a spot where you were and that spot doesn't change very often (the attack was nearly over before the knives started attacking center for the second time and I had been there for about 10 seconds). Any indicator when the spot changes or is my theory stupid wrong?

[Seppo Hovi]

The knives are static, the bubbles are aimed. Copy the path from WR, count the streams of knives shot and move accordingly when it's time.

You can do entirety of it on one side, though. Just try out a bit and figure out a route for yourself, it's not the most complex thing in all of Touhou.

[Rei Scarlette]

Double Spoiler 9-7, Vague Recollection of Kinkaku-Ji, using Aya.
Clearly, I'm doing something very wrong here.

Although I did finally manage to clear this scene, it was actually just luck because of several wide open areas created by the semi-random (as I call them, as they move in a rotating pattern but the exact direction doesn't appear to be aimed?) bullets. I obviously don't know what I'm doing if I still can't figure it out after this many tries. And I'm not all that happy with a lucky clear, to be honest, I'd like to be able to actually do this card normally.

So what I want to ask, is there any sort of actual strategy for this card or is it really just as I see it --a bunch of semi-randomly aimed bullets that are shot in rotating patterns, with each color rotating differently-- that requires plain old dodging skill? I can't seem to find any reliable way to make it through any particular wave, so I guess I just need to learn how to dodge better?

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Also one minor question that probably doesn't require it's own post, how can I take screenshots in this same game? I had to just grab this one manually with Print Screen because I couldn't find the SS button even though a folder for it is there.
(edit: reposted to Misc. Question thread, with more details. It'd be more noticeable there anyways)

[Mesarthim]

I play Hatate and my pre-clear count was 45. After failing 3 times I might've just been real lucky.

[I have no name]

So what I want to ask, is there any sort of actual strategy for this card or is it really just as I see it --a bunch of semi-randomly aimed bullets that are shot in rotating patterns, with each color rotating differently-- that requires plain old dodging skill? I can't seem to find any reliable way to make it through any particular wave, so I guess I just need to learn how to dodge better?

If you asked me a couple days ago, I would say there's no strategy beyond sitting there, getting lucky, dodging and taking the photos as quickly as possible.  However, I recently discovered that waiting until the first wave of bullets hits the bottom left corner (the light blues) to take the first shot, then taking the second ASAP results in a much more favorable spawn of the red wave, with regards to what it overlaps.  You could stall the 2nd shot, but stalling the first shot slightly is easier.

I took about 200 shots with Aya and cleared it 5 times, found the strat, took another 200 shots and cleared it 10 more times.  The outliers on shot count between clears?  84 without the strat, 51 with it.  The low end for each is 11 without, 4 with (though right after the 4 I got it 7 shots later).